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I've seen some people claim that the current kage (except naruto) can't be blitz by either sasuke or naruto.


Claim 1. " Darui and kurotsuchi were giving kinshiki trouble. The same guy who's equal to sasuke in speed. Therefore the same scenario will apply to sasuke"

Truth: Okay man, that's just plot no jutsu/inconsistency. Plot is forcing them to be useful. See turtle speed Sakura landing a hit on kaguya.

Claim 2 " Sasuke couldn't blitz base momoshiki, who couldn't outrun darui and gaara. So sasuke is around their speed"
Once again, if sasuke destroyed the main villain then there wouldn't be any plot. Kishi has to nerf the mains in one way or another. Also isn't funny that after momoshiki transformed into his demon form, the kages were completely sidelined while naruto and sasuke opened a can of whoop ass? Yeah i thought so.

Claim 3. "Duo don't have hagoromo's chakra anymore"
:lol
Pls tell me how can sasuke genjutsu nine tailed beast, use chibaku tensei on them, maintain bijuu susuanoo and more. Sasuke destroying a meteor larger than the hokage monument with a chidori should be proof of the work of rikudou chakra. Even naruto absorbing all the nature energy in the area is clearly proof as well.

That's it.

tl;dr stop comparing sasuke and naruto to the other current fodder kages.
 

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Yep. That's pretty much right.

Naruto and Sasuke are physical gods at this point.
 

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I disagree with how you defended your belief but it's obvious that the movie had to make them seem relevant there.

The NaruSasu team up proves that. There was no need for more
 

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I disagree with how you defended your belief but it's obvious that the movie had to make them seem relevant there.

The NaruSasu team up proves that. There was no need for more
Is it because i called sakura "turtle speed". :lol
I didn't mean literally but the speed difference between sakura and kaguya is huge.
 

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Is it because i called sakura "turtle speed". :lol
I didn't mean literally but the speed difference between sakura and kaguya is huge.

Why... how did you know :3 but you forgot calling the other kage fodder. I mean, they didn't die in there. We could call that plot but we can do that for a lot of things.

Still think the previous 5 kage > though barring naruto ofc.
 
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current kages are fodders if you compare them to nardo and sauce.

well anyone below RS level is fodder really. so this thread is moot point.

even the previous kages wont hold a candle to JJ jins and twin bros (indra and ashura) level.

except for Hashirama of course, hes Ashura level.
 

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Your absolutely right, the other kages aren't even in the same league. If they where THEYD be the ones calling the meetings lol.... Seriously though... They're not even close
 

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lol i know exactly who made those arguments. the clown would also bring up shin as evidence
 

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Smh who said this?
 

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Why... how did you know :3 but you forgot calling the other kage fodder. I mean, they didn't die in there. We could call that plot but we can do that for a lot of things.

Still think the previous 5 kage > though barring naruto ofc.

Gaara surpassed his father during the war arc
 

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They are pretty strong but whoever said that is full of it.
 

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I've seen some people claim that the current kage (except naruto) can't be blitz by either sasuke or naruto.


Claim 1. " Darui and kurotsuchi were giving kinshiki trouble. The same guy who's equal to sasuke in speed. Therefore the same scenario will apply to sasuke"

Truth: Okay man, that's just plot no jutsu/inconsistency. Plot is forcing them to be useful. See turtle speed Sakura landing a hit on kaguya.
This isn't evidence. This is just you complaining about a character not living up to your ridiculously unrealistic expectations. How fast you think Sasuke is isn't relevant. The only thing that matters is how he interacts with other characters during his fights.

-Shin grabbed his blade with ease.
-His equal in speed was dodged by Chojuro.
-He was even with base Momoshiki whom was even with Darui.

inb4 "Sasuke blitzed Madara" :lol
Claim 2 " Sasuke couldn't blitz base momoshiki, who couldn't outrun darui and gaara. So sasuke is around their speed"
Once again, if sasuke destroyed the main villain then there wouldn't be any plot. Kishi has to nerf the mains in one way or another. Also isn't funny that after momoshiki transformed into his demon form, the kages were completely sidelined while naruto and sasuke opened a can of whoop ass? Yeah i thought so.
"They were nerfed" isn't evidence either. The Kages weren't sidelined against 2nd form Momoshiki because of his speed. He grew too powerful for them to deal with. This isn't hard to comprehend at all.
Claim 3. "Duo don't have hagoromo's chakra anymore"
:lol
Pls tell me how can sasuke genjutsu nine tailed beast, use chibaku tensei on them, maintain bijuu susuanoo and more. Sasuke destroying a meteor larger than the hokage monument with a chidori should be proof of the work of rikudou chakra. Even naruto absorbing all the nature energy in the area is clearly proof as well.
There is literally no reason that Sasuke would need a boost in chakra reserves to do any of the above.

Sasuke's Chidori turns black whenever he uses the Six Paths power. I'm going to make it even simpler for the brain dead fanbase.

Black Chidori=Six Paths power
Blue Chidori=No Six Paths power

and he no longer has the Moon seal which granted him the ability to do this.

Hagoromo's chakra was never boosting them passively in the 1st place. The chakra was delegated to the seal alone in order to use Six Paths CT and this chakra could be drawn upon at will for various things such as boosting jutsu as shown in Sasuke's case and healing others as shown in Naruto's case.
 

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Turtle Speed Sakura?
When she avoided Kaguya Chakra arms
Avoided an acid blitz while carrying Obito
The magna proves that her reflexes are comparable to naruto's and sasukes.
And She isn't slow, in the databook her speed and strength are equal, If she wants she can enhance he speed to match her strength, being Slow was never Sakura's weakness, I dont even know where this came from, I was never states that Sakura was slow or had good speed, as a matter of fact sakura has always blitz someone int he manga, even if most of them was to tank damage
 

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Turtle Speed Sakura?
When she avoided Kaguya Chakra arms
Avoided an acid blitz while carrying Obito
The magna proves that her reflexes are comparable to naruto's and sasukes.
And She isn't slow, in the databook her speed and strength are equal, If she wants she can enhance he speed to match her strength, being Slow was never Sakura's weakness, I dont even know where this came from, I was never states that Sakura was slow or had good speed, as a matter of fact sakura has always blitz someone int he manga, even if most of them was to tank damage

If your always tanking the attack it's not really blitzing someone is it
 
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