Why Naruto needed Bee to Achieve a feat Sasuke Could on his own?

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Not really understanding why Naruto needed bee to help him win this fight especially when both him and Sasuke were strong enough at the time to take this fight on their on. Even though they are Jinchuriki and may be powerful shinobi, they're inferior to Naruto at the end of the day.
 

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Neither Naruto nor Sasuke could win this fight at the time unless the Jinchuuriki all keep themselves at their base form, and even then its not an easy win. Pull off Version 2 though and both are screwed, let alone Bijuu Mode.
 

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Naruto was not in full control of Kyuubi yet, therefore, IMO, he didn't have the power.
 

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Neither Naruto nor Sasuke could win this fight at the time unless the Jinchuuriki all keep themselves at their base form, and even then its not an easy win. Pull off Version 2 though and both are screwed, let alone Bijuu Mode.
That's very far from the truth. They need to go V2 and higher in order to push Naruto and Sasuke to high difficulties

Naruto was not in full control of Kyuubi yet, therefore, IMO, he didn't have the power.

Hmm well Sasuke was ahead of him having EMS at the time while naruto only had KM, but I was thinking in terms that Kishimoto had them equally powerful. Naruto can start the fight in KM but he can't win without BM.
 

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That's very far from the truth. They need to go V2 and higher in order to push Naruto and Sasuke to high difficulties

A V2 Naruto beat down both Orochimaru and Tendo Pain. A V1 Killer B took one direct blow to critically wound Sasuke. Six of those at the same time are overkill;
 

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A V2 Naruto beat down both Orochimaru and Tendo Pain. A V1 Killer B took one direct blow to critically wound Sasuke. Six of those at the same time are overkill;

The V2 Naruto that beat down Orochimaru (who said Sasuke was superior at that time) was weaker than Killer Bee's V1 (which Sasuke fought) and the one that fought tendo is weaker than Killer B's V2. The 6 V2 Jin's are weaker than both these forms so how is that overkill in any way?
 

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The V2 Naruto that beat down Orochimaru (who said Sasuke was superior at that time) was weaker than Killer Bee's V1 (which Sasuke fought) and the one that fought tendo is weaker than Killer B's V2. The 6 V2 Jin's are weaker than both these forms so how is that overkill in any way?

Why would you assume that all 6 V2 jins are weaker than both four tailed and six tailed Naruto? Sure, the Kyuubi is stronger, but its V2's are both weaker than what it should theoretically be was Naruto able to access it like B does..
 

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Sasuke would easily lose. He has no way to seal them. They would eventually transform into bijuus and murder Sasuke.


Plus Naruto and Sasuke were equal at that time.
 

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Why would you assume that all 6 V2 jins are weaker than both four tailed and six tailed Naruto? Sure, the Kyuubi is stronger, but its V2's are both weaker than what it should theoretically be was Naruto able to access it like B does..

Collectively they are > 4 tails Naruto but KN6 is a different story because first off the Kyuubi is naturally stronger than them all. They all went to their max # of tails and weren't even as deadly as Killer Bee's 8T or Naruto's kN6. Well Naruto accessing it the way Bee does makes it stronger in everything besides raw power. if you're talking about that then you're right.
 

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Collectively they are > 4 tails Naruto but KN6 is a different story because first off the Kyuubi is naturally stronger than them all. They all went to their max # of tails and weren't even as deadly as Killer Bee's 8T or Naruto's kN6. Well Naruto accessing it the way Bee does makes it stronger in everything besides raw power. if you're talking about that then you're right.

How can you say they aren't as deadly as V2 6 tails? Together they easily sneaked past B and wrecked KCM Naruto.

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If this was a one on one they would've taken down Naruto neg dif. Sasuke would've put up a better fight, but ultimately, I don't see how it would end up that differently for him.
 

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Sasuke would easily lose. He has no way to seal them. They would eventually transform into bijuus and murder Sasuke.


Plus Naruto and Sasuke were equal at that time.

The Sharingan makes them transforming useless and IIRC all he needs to do is remove the chakra rods for them to whither away which is something he would easily notice by simply looking at them with the Sharingan and I get that you hate Sasuke but be realistic, he's not getting killed.
 

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The OP is hardheaded as fuuuuuuuuuuck.
 

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Better question: Why the hell would Naruto say "Stand back, Bee! I got this!" rather than fighting together?
 

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The Sharingan makes them transforming useless and IIRC all he needs to do is remove the chakra rods for them to whither away which is something he would easily notice by simply looking at them with the Sharingan and I get that you hate Sasuke but be realistic, he's not getting killed.
Sasuke couldn't beat 7 bijuus on his own it's just not happening man. And Obito too? No way. Sasuke would have no choice but to hide in his Susanoo. And those jinchuurikis are extremely fast. If you want an idea of how susanoo would fare again them then look at all the trouble 8 tails had with them.

Sasuke wouldn't even put up a better fight
 
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LOL, Sasuke would have got murdered if he tried to take on Tobi and 7 Jins...

Even Naruto and Bee weren't going anywhere with the help of Kakashi and Gai too, it became a little even when Naruto unleashed BM.
 

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His chakra was still in its early stages of blooming, by the time Obito was using the Gedo and the seven bijuu he noted how Naruto's strength began to feel different.

By the time Obito became a jinchuuriki Naruto had already fought long and hard enough for Ashura's chakra to bloom at a drastic rate which in turn allowed him to use BSM and fight on equal grounds with EMS Sasuke.
 

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I stopped at the point op used kcm naruto to say kurama was stronger than the other bijuus when kcm naruto only has half of kurama
 

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The V2 Naruto that beat down Orochimaru (who said Sasuke was superior at that time) was weaker than Killer Bee's V1 (which Sasuke fought) and the one that fought tendo is weaker than Killer B's V2. The 6 V2 Jin's are weaker than both these forms so how is that overkill in any way?

@ bold orochimaru was referring to 3-tailed V1 naruto...just wanna point that out before you start bullshiting
 
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