No dude , just no
Naruto is far far far faster than DRSM Madara , we've been through this already , so no point of keep bringing it again , it's straight out wrong .
Throwing the swords isn't gonna save him from the huge AOE destruction , not to mention that Madara's susanoo never shown throwing his swords , it only happened when they were attached to Bijuudama .
Sasuke being equale to Naruto is irrelevant when Sasuke himself is already above DRSM Madara , and Naruto defeated Sasuke while holding back , and severly low on chakra , Sasuke's susanoo feats , and Kakashi's Susanoo feats do not just get handed to Madara , and neither of which actually showed the mobility to escap this death trap .
I need to see feats for Madara's susanoo mobility to suggest he can get out off the attack , do you have any ? i suppose no ?
Madara can only tell the difference when it comes to Mokuton clones , not Shadow clones , he did not know that it was naruto's clone who attacked him , untill it got POOFED when the Juubi hit him with his tail .
Never said summoning Kurama works on clones only , i said that only a clone showed feeling pain from the summoning , not to mention that clone was low on chakra in the first place . We never saw the real one feels the pain , so there's nothing to suggest it will effect him , add to this the fact that if this method would work , then Madara would done it already , but he didn't .
Madara can not use Preta path while using Susanoo , he stated that himself . and he isn't absorbing techniques on Naruto's level .
His mokuton was destroyed with base rasengans and base clones , one Lava Rasenshuriken , or Boil Rasenshuriken would one shot it , Madara can not see through Shadow clones for reasons i already stated .
The only people who can beat Rikudou Naruto and Rikudou Sasuke are the Juubi Jinchurikis , pretty sure the manga made that clear .
It doesn't matter how fast Naruto is. He isn't escaping that blast radius either. Let me give you a situation. Naruto throws the same attack at Sasuke. Does he win with low difficulty less than 1 minute into the match? No, so the same thing applies to Madara. Assuming Naruto's attack and Sasuke's Susano'o attacked the meteor at the same time, that means Sasuke sliced through it in the time it took to explode. The speed of a Susano'o is not going to vary as much as you're talking about.
Susano'o has shown the ability to throw swords when it was done in the struggle to drag the Tailed Beasts into the Demonic Statue. Yasaka Magatama could also work.
Madara can tell the difference between all clones. He knew on the spot that the Naruto in front of him was a clone.
Chakra has literally nothing to do with the internal pain caused by summoning Kurama. The method already was shown working so there's no reason to deny it's efficiency.
Where does he state he cannot use Preta Path with Susano'o? Kurama said the exact opposite. The absorption also has not been stated to have a limit, so there's no reason to believe he can't absorb Naruto's attacks. If you're talking about the prior Rasenshuriken, Pain, a far weaker opponent, already handled it with ease.
Naruto doesn't have infinite chakra. He actually has less than Madara here and only little of the Tailed Beasts. He won't be able to use their bloodline limits for all his attacks and if he keeps trying to destroy the wooden terrain, he simply continues to waste chakra.
The manga stated no such thing and Madara has what makes Sasuke equal to Naruto and more anyways, so that's an invalid argument.
It doesn't matter how fast Naruto is. He isn't escaping that blast radius either. Let me give you a situation. Naruto throws the same attack at Sasuke. Does he win with low difficulty less than 1 minute into the match? No, so the same thing applies to Madara. Assuming Naruto's attack and Sasuke's Susano'o attacked the meteor at the same time, that means Sasuke sliced through it in the time it took to explode. The speed of a Susano'o is not going to vary as much as you're talking about.
Susano'o has shown the ability to throw swords when it was done in the struggle to drag the Tailed Beasts into the Demonic Statue. Yasaka Magatama could also work.
Madara can tell the difference between all clones. He knew on the spot that the Naruto in front of him was a clone.
Chakra has literally nothing to do with the internal pain caused by summoning Kurama. The method already was shown working so there's no reason to deny it's efficiency.
Where does he state he cannot use Preta Path with Susano'o? Kurama said the exact opposite. The absorption also has not been stated to have a limit, so there's no reason to believe he can't absorb Naruto's attacks. If you're talking about the prior Rasenshuriken, Pain, a far weaker opponent, already handled it with ease.
Naruto doesn't have infinite chakra. He actually has less than Madara here and only little of the Tailed Beasts. He won't be able to use their bloodline limits for all his attacks and if he keeps trying to destroy the wooden terrain, he simply continues to waste chakra.
The manga stated no such thing and Madara has what makes Sasuke equal to Naruto and more anyways, so that's an invalid argument.
Naruto can escape because he has the feats to suggest he can , feats that i already mentioned , not to mention that he can also keep distance and fire his nukes , or just let his clones fire the nukes for him , a method he already did against Pain , and Kaguya .
Sasuke being equal to Naruto is irrelevant to this discussion , because :
- Sasuke himself is already above DRSM Madara .
- Sasuke has Amenotejikara , which he can use as a combination with his Susanoo
- Sasuke's speed and reactions are far above Madara
- Sasuke's susanoo >>> Madara's susanoo in everything , power wise , speed wise , etc etc
- Naruto managaed to beat Sasuke while holding back , and Low on chakra .
So bringing Sasuke's into this discussion isn't gonna help your argument whatsoever
Sasuke's susanoo feats >>> Madara's susanoo feats , it can't get anymore simple than that .
Pretty sure that was Yasaka Magatama , not a Sword , still won't make any sort of a difference .
Naruto's clone along with Kakashi attacked Obito and Madara who where controlling the Juubi , the Juubi hit the clone , and the clone poofed and then Madara said : " Mata Kage Bunshin Ka ? " which is translated to : " Another Shadow Clone ? " which means he didn't know that it was a clone , Madara can only guess due to experience , he can't 100 % distinguish the clones from the real one .
The summoning thing only showed working on a clone , not the real one , so i have no reason to believe it would work here , not to mention that madara had all the time in the world to try this trick when he was fighting Naruto , but he didn't , it isn't IC for him , it isn't effective at all , so moot point .
Madara stated that using Susanoo kept him from absorbing Onoki's Jinton when he was fighting the 5 kages , so there you go
Also Madara couldn't absorb Naruto's Lava rasenshuriken , or Sasuke's chidori , or Naruto's Magnet Rasengan , or Sasuke's chidori Iso , so yeah it does have limits .
And please don't compare fuuton Rasenshuriken from SM Naruto with a Bijuudara Rasenshuriken from RSM Naruto , there's a huge differnce in chakra and power between the 2 .
I really really hope you're joking with the Bold part , Naruto has less chakra than Madara here ???!!!
Let's see , Madara has :
- 8.5 Bijuu chakra
- His own chakra
- sage mode
While Naruto has :
- Half of Rikudou Sennin chakra
- Half Kyuubi
- his own body chakra
Half of Rikudou Sennin chakra is already >>>> any reserve Madara has , in both quality and quantity . So there you go .
Mokuton is garbage to Naruto and even his base attacks is enuff to destroy it
Also how will Naruto waste chakra in this fight but not Madara ????!!!! how did you come to sucha conclusion ???!!!
It's not an invalid argument , it's a manga fact :
- Naruto and sasuke both have half of rikudou sennin's power
- They were smaking around Juubi jinchuriki Madara
- They were keeping up with Kaguya and they managaed to seal her
- Naruto and Sasuke were stronger than everyone else in the Manga except Juubi Jinchuriki Madara and Kaguya and Hagoromo and Hamura .
Logical conclusion : Only Kaguya , her two sons , Juubi Jinchuriki Madara , can beat Rikudou Naruto and Rikudou Sasuke .
Naruto can escape because he has the feats to suggest he can , feats that i already mentioned , not to mention that he can also keep distance and fire his nukes , or just let his clones fire the nukes for him , a method he already did against Pain , and Kaguya .
If he keeps a distance they get countered or absorbed and using clones to get close wouldn't work since they spawn near Naruto and Madara can use his own clones to intercept.
Sasuke being equal to Naruto is irrelevant to this discussion , because :
- Sasuke himself is already above DRSM Madara .
- Sasuke has Amenotejikara , which he can use as a combination with his Susanoo
- Sasuke's speed and reactions are far above Madara
- Sasuke's susanoo >>> Madara's susanoo in everything , power wise , speed wise , etc etc
- Naruto managaed to beat Sasuke while holding back , and Low on chakra .
So bringing Sasuke's into this discussion isn't gonna help your argument whatsoever
Sasuke's susanoo feats >>> Madara's susanoo feats , it can't get anymore simple than that .
Why would Sasuke's Susano'o be faster? Madara has Sage Mode and Hagoromo's chakra. Don't say he doesn't have as much as Sasuke because he merged his chakra with Hashirama's, so it's all the same thing. Even Kakashi kept up. Everything else is irrelevant since you dodged the question of whether Sasuke gets finished in less than a minute. Amenotejikara's weak range isn't going to help him.
Pretty sure that was Yasaka Magatama , not a Sword , still won't make any sort of a difference .
He literally throws his sword from his hand. Kakashi did a similar thing with shuriken. They counter the Rasenshuriken.
Naruto's clone along with Kakashi attacked Obito and Madara who where controlling the Juubi , the Juubi hit the clone , and the clone poofed and then Madara said : " Mata Kage Bunshin Ka ? " which is translated to : " Another Shadow Clone ? " which means he didn't know that it was a clone , Madara can only guess due to experience , he can't 100 % distinguish the clones from the real one .
Or he was simply referring to how Naruto uses clones so much. When he arrived on the battlefield for the first time he specifically states with confidence that the Naruto in front of him was a clone and asks for where the real one is.
The summoning thing only showed working on a clone , not the real one , so i have no reason to believe it would work here , not to mention that madara had all the time in the world to try this trick when he was fighting Naruto , but he didn't , it isn't IC for him , it isn't effective at all , so moot point .
Also Madara couldn't absorb Naruto's Lava rasenshuriken , or Sasuke's chidori , or Naruto's Magnet Rasengan , or Sasuke's chidori Iso , so yeah it does have limits .
And please don't compare fuuton Rasenshuriken from SM Naruto with a Bijuudara Rasenshuriken from RSM Naruto , there's a huge differnce in chakra and power between the 2 .
When did he ever attempt to absorb any of those? We've never seen it even hinting at a limit.
I really really hope you're joking with the Bold part , Naruto has less chakra than Madara here ???!!!
Let's see , Madara has :
- 8.5 Bijuu chakra
- His own chakra
- sage mode
While Naruto has :
- Half of Rikudou Sennin chakra
- Half Kyuubi
- his own body chakra
Half of Rikudou Sennin chakra is already >>>> any reserve Madara has , in both quality and quantity . So there you go .
So Naruto and Sasuke have more chakra than Holy Madara? Okay. You'll need evidence that a dead Hagoromo without the ten-tails has as much chakra as you say he does. By the way, Madara's own chakra is similar to Hagoromo's as already stated.
Mokuton is garbage to Naruto and even his base attacks is enuff to destroy it
So garbage that it single handedly made Hashirama to be known as the God of Shinobi. You know how many Rasengan it took to beat one Wood Style technique? Naruto's regular ones won't be effective.
Also how will Naruto waste chakra in this fight but not Madara ????!!!! how did you come to sucha conclusion ???!!!
Your tactic is Naruto spamming Rasenshuriken. He easily wastes chakra.
It's not an invalid argument , it's a manga fact :
- Naruto and sasuke both have half of rikudou sennin's power
- They were smaking around Juubi jinchuriki Madara
- They were keeping up with Kaguya and they managaed to seal her
- Naruto and Sasuke were stronger than everyone else in the Manga except Juubi Jinchuriki Madara and Kaguya and Hagoromo and Hamura .
Logical conclusion : Only Kaguya , her two sons , Juubi Jinchuriki Madara , can beat Rikudou Naruto and Rikudou Sasuke .
If he keeps a distance they get countered or absorbed and using clones to get close wouldn't work since they spawn near Naruto and Madara can use his own clones to intercept.
Why would Sasuke's Susano'o be faster? Madara has Sage Mode and Hagoromo's chakra. Don't say he doesn't have as much as Sasuke because he merged his chakra with Hashirama's, so it's all the same thing. Even Kakashi kept up. Everything else is irrelevant since you dodged the question of whether Sasuke gets finished in less than a minute. Amenotejikara's weak range isn't going to help him.
He literally throws his sword from his hand. Kakashi did a similar thing with shuriken. They counter the Rasenshuriken.
Or he was simply referring to how Naruto uses clones so much. When he arrived on the battlefield for the first time he specifically states with confidence that the Naruto in front of him was a clone and asks for where the real one is.
It doesn't really have to be in-character. Naruto wouldn't just spam Rasenshuriken at his opponent either now would he?
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When did he ever attempt to absorb any of those? We've never seen it even hinting at a limit.
So Naruto and Sasuke have more chakra than Holy Madara? Okay. You'll need evidence that a dead Hagoromo without the ten-tails has as much chakra as you say he does. By the way, Madara's own chakra is similar to Hagoromo's as already stated.
So garbage that it single handedly made Hashirama to be known as the God of Shinobi. You know how many Rasengan it took to beat one Wood Style technique? Naruto's regular ones won't be effective.
Your tactic is Naruto spamming Rasenshuriken. He easily wastes chakra.
My logical conclusion is that since DRSM Madara has the same powers as Sasuke and more, he is on their level.
So no , Madara clearly stated that he can not absorb and use Susanoo at the same time , let me explain this to you :
- Susanoo requirs your chakra to flew outside your body
- Preta Path requirs your chakra to flew Inside your body
You can't make chakra flew Inside and Outside at the same time , this is like asking someone to breath in and breath out at the same time , it's impossible .
Naruto's clones were fighting on par with JJ madara's limbo , so DRSM Madara's clones are garbage to them for reasons i already explained :
Since DRSM Madara is far weaker than JJ Madara , that means that DRSM Madara's Limbo and Clones are also far weaker .
No Madara won't be able to absorb 6 Shurikens at the same time , he might be able to absorb one , but then the others will just blow up in his face .
Sasuke's susanoo is faster and far more mobile because his feats say so :
Cutting off Chibaku tensei the size of the shinju tree , each piece of a meteor dwarf mountain ranges
Fighting on par with Rikudou Senjutsu enhanced Kyuubi Avatar
And most importantly , fast enuff to catch Kaguya and keep track on her
No , Madara doesn't have as much chakra as Sasuke , Madara has only a small portion of six paths chakra that he obtained after merging hashirama's DNA with his own , while Sasuke has half of Rikudou Sennin chakra that he got DIRECTLY from him .
Kakashi kept his power for only 2 minutes or so , so that's irrelevant .
No , Naruto can not low diff Sasuke with a barrage of TBBRS , because :
- Sasuke's susanoo already showed the mobility to dodge and react to those Shurikens in the same chapter Naruto used them .
- Sasuke can use Amenotejikara to teleport behind Naruto like he did in the Manga
- Sasuke susanoo is far far faster than Madara's going by feats .
Yes , Naruto's nukes can destroy Sasuke's susanoo , but he isn't catching him with it that easy for reasong already mentioned .
It looked like Yasaka Magata to me , Oh well , still won't make a difference tho ......
Madara's statement coming from his mouth after it was revealed that it was a clone implays he didn't know it was a clone untill it got poofed ! Maybe if Madara's statement came before the clone poofed , then you might be right , but it didn't , so this point holds no water .
It's IC for Naruto to spam Rasenshuriken and Rasengan variants against his opponets
He did it against Kaguya
He did it against Kyuubi
etc etc etc
Madara was in a position where he could've absorbed Naruto's Magnet Rasengean and Sasuke 's chidori , but instead he choosed to swip witha Limbo .
He was in a perfect Position to absorb Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken but he couldn't , so there you go .
Not really sure what you mean by Holy Madara !!! , this isn't Juubi Jinchuriki Madara , this alive Madara with Double Rinnegan and Sage mode .
I argue in Facts man , not in Holy Names , I know how much you like Madara , but you just gotta let it go .
Both Naruto and Sasuke possess each Half of Hagoromo's chakra , who is already hyped to be the second strongest Shinobi in history , the Rikudou Sennin , he was able to fight and seal the Juubi along side Hamura .
His chakra anabled Naruto and Sasuke to fight and overwhelme JJ Madara , and then fight and beat and seal Kaguya , so how much do you think Hagoromo's chakra is ???? Hint : it's ridiculously huuuuge !
When i say Mokuton is garbae , i'm referring to Madara's Mokuton level , what is the best Mokuton he has shown ?????
Kajukai Korin ? One Boil Rasenshuriken one shots it
Jukai Kutan ? One TBBRS or Lava Rasenshuriken one shots it
And it's not like Madara would be spamming Mokuton when Naruto is already overwhelming him with his attacks , so there you go .
Naruto isn't gonna waste chakra against someone of DRSM Madara's level , he faught against Obito , and then JJ Obito , and then JJ Madara , and then Kaguya , and he still had enuff power to fight Sasuke who had a power of 8.5 Bijuu in his back pocket
Saying a fresh Naruto is gonna waste chakra against DRSM Madara is a joke TBH .
DRSM Madara is not on Naruto's level , nor is he on Sasuke's , not when Sasuke has :
- Half Rikudou Sennin chakra
- Far far superior Susanoo
- Far better feats
Sasuke managed to SPEEDBLITZ JJ Madara TWICE using his Amenotejikara , guess what will happen to the far inferior DRSM Madara .
You want another proof ?
So no , Madara clearly stated that he can not absorb and use Susanoo at the same time , let me explain this to you :
- Susanoo requirs your chakra to flew outside your body
- Preta Path requirs your chakra to flew Inside your body
You can't make chakra flew Inside and Outside at the same time , this is like asking someone to breath in and breath out at the same time , it's impossible .
You're trying to apply logic to Naruto, which doesn't work in this case since Kurama specifically states it's possible to absorb and cast at the same time. The original Japanese says "susanoo wo dashite ida bun jinton no kyoushou ga ma ni awa na katta na", which roughly translates to "The many Susano'o didn't escape Jinton's absorption in time". All you had to do though was go back some pages and realize the real Madara wasn't using Susano'o, so he wouldn't even have problems if it was true.
Naruto's clones were fighting on par with JJ madara's limbo , so DRSM Madara's clones are garbage to them for reasons i already explained :
Since DRSM Madara is far weaker than JJ Madara , that means that DRSM Madara's Limbo and Clones are also far weaker .
No Madara won't be able to absorb 6 Shurikens at the same time , he might be able to absorb one , but then the others will just blow up in his face .
Actually, Naruto's clones were using techniques such as Rasengan against Holy Madara's Limbo and still lost in the end. Besides, Sasuke's reactions are due to his Rinnegan's sight, which is matched by Madara and surpassed with his Sage Mode and natural sensing abilities, as he was shown reacting to Flying Thunder God. I won't say Madara can absorb six techniques of that caliber at the same time, but then again they won't ever get that close to him in the first place.
Sasuke's susanoo is faster and far more mobile because his feats say so :
Cutting off Chibaku tensei the size of the shinju tree , each piece of a meteor dwarf mountain ranges
Fighting on par with Rikudou Senjutsu enhanced Kyuubi Avatar
And most importantly , fast enuff to catch Kaguya and keep track on her
Even Kakashi's Susano'o was as fast as Sasuke's. We haven't even seen Madara fly using Susano'o so it's impossible to calculate what kind of speed he'd have unless you use logical comparisons such as this. Madara has stronger chakra, the Rinnegan, and is the actual owner of his eyes, so he should match Kakashi and Sasuke.
No , Madara doesn't have as much chakra as Sasuke , Madara has only a small portion of six paths chakra that he obtained after merging hashirama's DNA with his own , while Sasuke has half of Rikudou Sennin chakra that he got DIRECTLY from him .
Kakashi kept his power for only 2 minutes or so , so that's irrelevant .
No , Naruto can not low diff Sasuke with a barrage of TBBRS , because :
- Sasuke's susanoo already showed the mobility to dodge and react to those Shurikens in the same chapter Naruto used them .
- Sasuke can use Amenotejikara to teleport behind Naruto like he did in the Manga
- Sasuke susanoo is far far faster than Madara's going by feats .
Yes , Naruto's nukes can destroy Sasuke's susanoo , but he isn't catching him with it that easy for reasong already mentioned .
Once again, you're making a big deal over Hagoromo's chakra but don't even know how much his dead spirit without the ten-tails even has. Madara's genetics changed to generate Hagoromo's chakra, as his whole body is combined with Hashirama's cells unlike Obito or Danzo, shown by how he was able to replace his right arm even though he only tested on his left chest. All of his chakra is Hagoromo's. His Susano'o and eyes use Hagoromo's chakra so he will be on Sasuke's level.
It looked like Yasaka Magata to me , Oh well , still won't make a difference tho ......
Feel free to compare that sword to the first time he use Susano'o against the Shinobi Alliance. It does make a difference since he can counter Rasenshuriken from long range.
Madara's statement coming from his mouth after it was revealed that it was a clone implays he didn't know it was a clone untill it got poofed ! Maybe if Madara's statement came before the clone poofed , then you might be right , but it didn't , so this point holds no water .
The difference is that "Another Shadow Clone?" can be taken to express his surprise at Naruto using so many clones. Madara before that already pointed out another of Naruto's clones before it poofed or moved, so your point holds no water.
It's IC for Naruto to spam Rasenshuriken and Rasengan variants against his opponets
He did it against Kaguya
He did it against Kyuubi
etc etc etc
No he doesn't. Against Kaguya he only used Rasenshuriken in one instance and against Kurama he was a large opponent whom Naruto can't even hurt without Rasengan. He never spams Rasenshuriken from long range against a human opponent.
Madara was in a position where he could've absorbed Naruto's Magnet Rasengean and Sasuke 's chidori , but instead he choosed to swip witha Limbo .
He was in a perfect Position to absorb Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken but he couldn't , so there you go .
Just because he was in the position to, does not mean he will. Kaguya could have just absorbed Sasuke's Chidori and finish him but instead she ran away. Your first example doesn't even work since absorbing chakra would not remove the seal taking place on him and he'd still be in Amenotejikara's range unable to efficiently use Kamui. Since he never attempted to absorb those, there's no hinted limit. Even Black Zetsu was exclaiming how all techniques can be absorbed.
Not really sure what you mean by Holy Madara !!! , this isn't Juubi Jinchuriki Madara , this alive Madara with Double Rinnegan and Sage mode .
You said Naruto and Sasuke individually have way more chakra than 8 Tailed Beasts, which even Hagoromo and Hamura combined didn't have. You'd be suggesting they outclass Holy Madara in chakra.
I argue in Facts man , not in Holy Names , I know how much you like Madara , but you just gotta let it go .
Both Naruto and Sasuke possess each Half of Hagoromo's chakra , who is already hyped to be the second strongest Shinobi in history , the Rikudou Sennin , he was able to fight and seal the Juubi along side Hamura .
His chakra anabled Naruto and Sasuke to fight and overwhelme JJ Madara , and then fight and beat and seal Kaguya , so how much do you think Hagoromo's chakra is ???? Hint : it's ridiculously huuuuge !
Defeating Kaguya had nothing to do with how much chakra they had, only what techniques they had, which are the Rinnegan and Six Paths Sage Mode, which once again, have nothing to do with the volume of chakra they received. You can't calculate it except that there's the fact no one was any surprised by their chakra levels.
When i say Mokuton is garbae , i'm referring to Madara's Mokuton level , what is the best Mokuton he has shown ?????
Kajukai Korin ? One Boil Rasenshuriken one shots it
Jukai Kutan ? One TBBRS or Lava Rasenshuriken one shots it
And it's not like Madara would be spamming Mokuton when Naruto is already overwhelming him with his attacks , so there you go .
Madara's is basically the same as Hashirama's except for Sage Art: Wood Style: True Several Thousand Hands which still may be possible since they have the same sage chakra. Naruto can't really overwhelm him since his clones are handled and Madara can counter Rasenshuriken from long range or go in close so that they can't be used.
Naruto isn't gonna waste chakra against someone of DRSM Madara's level , he faught against Obito , and then JJ Obito , and then JJ Madara , and then Kaguya , and he still had enuff power to fight Sasuke who had a power of 8.5 Bijuu in his back pocket
Saying a fresh Naruto is gonna waste chakra against DRSM Madara is a joke TBH .
Naruto's chakra was replenished after Obito, so anything before that is irrelevant. Besides the Rasenshuriken against the meteors and Kaguya, he barely even used chakra, so it's nothing to brag about.
DRSM Madara is not on Naruto's level , nor is he on Sasuke's , not when Sasuke has :
- Half Rikudou Sennin chakra
- Far far superior Susanoo
- Far better feats
Sasuke managed to SPEEDBLITZ JJ Madara TWICE using his Amenotejikara , guess what will happen to the far inferior DRSM Madara .
Already explained why Madara should match them above. Madara was only caught by Amenotejikara because of the way he used it, launching his attack before teleporting. Every time when Sasuke teleports before attacking, like against Kaguya, Naruto, Shin, and Momoshiki, it got countered.
If Naruto cant use kuarma avatar then Madara wins low-mid since Naruto is completely defenseless against PS.
Madara actually stomps if this is adult Naruto without kuarma avatar since he doesnt have TSB or Biju power anymore.
