he was in BSM and had the help of Gaara, Bee and a lot of ninja in the SA. Yes, Naruto is stronger than his BSM self but Kaguya is a hell of a lot stronger than Obito.
Here is where people is wrong especially OP. When Naruto hit Kaguya with all those TB FRS yeah Kaguya chakra became unstable but she not turned into JJ Obito's situation instead it help Kaguya transform into Juubi (the unstabilized one).
What happen there was not a chakra leaked out but body deforming.
Her body and chakra react and not her chakra only.
-What Obito brings out was not a chakra but an actual Juubi with real body
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What happen there is Kaguya's body slowly turned into Juubi.
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If Naruto think he can win from a tug of war, he will try to tug it out from Kaguya. But clearly it not turn into separate beast where he can pull it but an unstable Juubi.
Naruto will not pull out a chakra but Juubi's flesh.
-What Obito brings out was not a chakra but an actual Juubi with real body
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What happen there is Kaguya's body slowly turned into Juubi.
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If Naruto think he can win from a tug of war, he will try to tug it out from Kaguya. But clearly it not turn into separate beast where he can pull it but an unstable Juubi.
Naruto will not pull out a chakra but Juubi's flesh
Naruto can just call for his beats and get chakra through them :lol as you see he called for them and they answered then 9 tailed beasts rasenshuriken ready to strike :lol
I dare you claim 9 tailed beats rasenshuriken is not made of chakra :lol
Naruto can just call for his beats and get chakra through them :lol as you see he called for them and they answered then 9 tailed beasts rasenshuriken ready to strike :lol
I dare you claim 9 tailed beats rasenshuriken is not made of chakra :lol
It already happen Aznkidd. Under Kaguya, tailed beast cant do anything bcus they were Kaguya's chakra to begin with.
It tied strong. At best those attacks will make Kaguya evolve further and not benefit Naruto at all.
Unlike Juubi jin where Juubi and host is still two different entities but in Kaguya case, TB essentially her own chakra. They were unconscious and thats why Naruto need a Tug of War and not calling their name.
What Naruto need to do is drawing out Kaguya's chakra and not Juubi.
And all TB not always inside him as their chakra deplete further and leaving Kurama alone.
It already happen Aznkidd. Under Kaguya, tailed beast cant do anything bcus they were Kaguya's chakra to begin with.
It tied strong. At best those attacks will make Kaguya evolve further and not benefit Naruto at all.
Unlike Juubi jin where Juubi and host is still two different entities but in Kaguya case, TB essentially her own chakra. They were unconscious and thats why Naruto need a Tug of War and not calling their name.
What Naruto need to do is drawing out Kaguya's chakra and not Juubi.
And all TB not always inside him as their chakra deplete further and leaving Kurama alone.
you still repeat the same mistake again and again.
Here is what it should looks like.
Naruto called for Tailed beasts that dwell within Kaguya. They answered back with their chakra and Naruto beam up 9 tailed beasts rasenshuriken.
Naruto is by manga fact connected to all of them, it was written down many times over and over again.
All Naruto can do now, since he is getting used to it, he can just beam up chakra and take it until there is nothin left inside Kaguya.
you still repeat the same mistake again and again.
Here is what it should looks like.
Naruto called for Tailed beasts that dwell within Kaguya. They answered back with their chakra and Naruto beam up 9 tailed beasts rasenshuriken.
Naruto is by manga fact connected to all of them, it was written down many times over and over again.
All Naruto can do now, since he is getting used to it, he can just beam up chakra and take it until there is nothin left inside Kaguya.
Nope, you are the one that not understand the situation.
Yes Kaguya's chakra what made up TB, But inside Kaguya's body, they are mixed into one chakra and that is Kaguya's chakra as of now.
No TB's consciousness can be found there.
TB consciousness is limited inside Naruto only.
You're thinking something that not really happen and what makes you different to someone tat you called as "making a fanfic" here? Did Naruto calling TB's name inside Kaguya, does he show it? No right. What mistake have I done when I following manga 100%?
People do mistake when they assuming but not when they following a fact or set of instruction.
I dont like to play with assumption alot in same case.
If I would give you an easy answer, no according to manga Naruto never shown to calling TB's name that reside inside Kaguya/Juubi/JJ.
Only way for Naruto to take out Kaguya's chakra is by using Tug of War. But first he need to draw out Kaguya's chakra first.
And I dont know what you're typing in the last sentence. Maybe too much assumption I guess like your Kakashi with PS and Kamui Shuriken thread.
Nope, you are the one that not understand the situation.
Yes Kaguya's chakra what made up TB, But inside Kaguya's body, they are mixed into one chakra and that is Kaguya's chakra as of now.
No TB's consciousness can be found there.
TB consciousness is limited inside Naruto only.
You're thinking something that not really happen and what makes you different to someone tat you called as "making a fanfic" here? Did Naruto calling TB's name inside Kaguya, does he show it? No right. What mistake have I done when I following manga 100%?
People do mistake when they assuming but not when they following a fact or set of instruction.
I dont like to play with assumption alot in same case.
If I would give you an easy answer, no according to manga Naruto never shown to calling TB's name that reside inside Kaguya/Juubi/JJ.
Only way for Naruto to take out Kaguya's chakra is by using Tug of War. But first he need to draw out Kaguya's chakra first.
And I dont know what you're typing in the last sentence. Maybe too much assumption I guess like your Kakashi with PS and Kamui Shuriken thread.
:lol Babe, go read at bold again, i think you do not think before you even post :lol
I post manga fact with evidents, and you keep saying that is assumption while all you have spew out so far is based solely on yur own imagination that has nothin to do with what we called here MANGA FACT.
Stop post nonsense. I give you another chance to counter my point properly with MANGA FACT.
:lol Babe, go read at bold again, i think you do not think before you even post :lol
I post manga fact with evidents, and you keep saying that is assumption while all you have spew out so far is based solely on yur own imagination that has nothin to do with what we called here MANGA FACT.
Stop post nonsense. I give you another chance to counter my point properly with MANGA FACT.
You couldnt fool me kid. I found nothing in manga showing that they had a consciousness inside Kaguya.
You order me to read it again and nah, nothing to be found there.
I'm asking you where's the manga panels that showing Bijuu talking inside Kaguya or their consciousness appeared inside Kaguya and talking to Naruto telepathically?
Or may I add inside Juubi or Juubi jinchuriki.
What if I suggest you to bring your so called following a manga fact here, or in simple word scan to back up your claimed.
At best I found BZ assuming that TB chakra reacting to Naruto's attack.
I post a manga fact here while all you have spew out so far is based solely on yur own imagination that has nothin to do with what we called here MANGA FACT.
If by manga fact its mean your own interpretation, I suggest stop calling it a manga fact.
Stop post nonsense. I give you another chance to counter my point properly with MANGA FACT.
If you want to counter my post do it properly or just take it.
I'm posting what I know and no nonsense here. Non sense here came from you. The situation here like - You hear your weapon specialist say "this missile can reach as far as Russia(the limit) from your place (Thailand)" but you suggest it can go further than that when the limit already presented to you.
Thats call as challenging the establishment.
Same as this manga. You challenge the establishment. Manga fact (Kaguya arc) never established anything you suggest here can happen but you think it can happen. How is that a manga fact? Are you Naruto editor?
Other manga fact you couldnt dissprove by action from Naruto:-
You said he has connection with all TB, yes I agree. But in VOTE2 he cant do anything on them nor calling them when he already had a connection with them. Even though they're trapped inside CT, Naruto should be able to connect with them. But he never done something.
Does Sasuke's Genjutsu is too strong for Naruto's remote connection to work? Or it just people doesnt understand what is the actual meaning of "meeting place".
You couldnt fool me kid. I found nothing in manga showing that they had a consciousness inside Kaguya.
You order me to read it again and nah, nothing to be found there.
I'm asking you where's the manga panels that showing Bijuu talking inside Kaguya or their consciousness appeared inside Kaguya and talking to Naruto telepathically?
Or may I add inside Juubi or Juubi jinchuriki.
What if I suggest you to bring your so called following a manga fact here, or in simple word scan to back up your claimed.
At best I found BZ assuming that TB chakra reacting to Naruto's attack.
I post a manga fact here while all you have spew out so far is based solely on yur own imagination that has nothin to do with what we called here MANGA FACT.
If by manga fact its mean your own interpretation, I suggest stop calling it a manga fact.
I'm posting what I know and no nonsense here. Non sense here came from you. The situation here like - You hear your weapon specialist say "this missile can reach as far as Russia(the limit) from your place (Thailand)" but you suggest it can go further than that when the limit already presented to you.
Thats call as challenging the establishment.
Same as this manga. You challenge the establishment. Manga fact (Kaguya arc) never established anything you suggest here can happen but you think it can happen. How is that a manga fact? Are you Naruto editor?
Other manga fact you couldnt dissprove by action from Naruto:-
You said he has connection with all TB, yes I agree. But in VOTE2 he cant do anything on them nor calling them when he already had a connection with them. Even though they're trapped inside CT, Naruto should be able to connect with them. But he never done something.
Does Sasuke's Genjutsu is too strong for Naruto's remote connection to work? Or it just people doesnt understand what is the actual meaning of "meeting place".
First i dont really want to using heavy words here against you, but honesty, did you just really write down those line without ever doubt your self ?
This is the reason i told you to go back and read it PROPERLY. Any one with a normal reading comprehension can interpret the scan in topic.
May be you are either a troll who looking for trouble like Femme, so you just talking nonsense.
But anyway, here i will give you a few questions regard the bold line, just answer it to yourself :lol
1. Where was the tailed beasts in the topic scans ?
2. Who they were answered to ?
3. Naruto talked to who ?
4. Where did all elements for the tailed beasts rasenshuriken coming from ?
He's trying to say the Tailed Beasts can just transfer all of their chakra to Naruto like how they did in order for him to use their bloodline limits. That's obviously not possible however.
He's trying to say the Tailed Beasts can just transfer all of their chakra to Naruto like how they did in order for him to use their bloodline limits. That's obviously not possible however.
Yeah, they aren't conscious while in the form of the Juubi. They are only conscious while within Naruto but the parts within the Juubi aren't in their control anymore. It's similar to how dividing Kurama created a seperate Kyuubi. Otherwise, it'd be possible for Kaguya to do the exact same thing.
First i dont really want to using heavy words here against you, but honesty, did you just really write down those line without ever doubt your self ?
This is the reason i told you to go back and read it PROPERLY. Any one with a normal reading comprehension can interpret the scan in topic.
May be you are either a troll who looking for trouble like Femme, so you just talking nonsense.
But anyway, here i will give you a few questions regard the bold line, just answer it to yourself :lol
1. Where was the tailed beasts in the topic scans ?
2. Who they were answered to ?
3. Naruto talked to who ?
4. Where did all elements for the tailed beasts rasenshuriken coming from ?
Apart from gaining power of Bijuu, their chakra albeit small contain their awareness. Only when they separated from Juubi's chakra, they awareness came to alive.
It doesnt take degree level reading comprehension to know from where all those Tailed Beast answering Naruto's asking/calling. It's same as previously, from Naruto's own Consciousness Dimension and not from inside Kaguya's body.
It doesnt show any sign of TB consciousness inside Kaguya's body here.
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If they(TB's conciousness) exist inside Kaguya, Kaguya should and would aware of it and try to manage it but seemingly their consciousness being null and void until they being released from Kaguya's body.
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You claimed Naruto is able to call them when they're inside JJ but Manga showing tells otherwise
Before Obito getting slice by Spiritual sword of Iso Susanoo..
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There is no sign of Naruto calling their name from Inside Obito's body...
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But that sword action help free their body from Juubi holds and enabling Naruto to grab and pull them with their chakra that exist inside Naruto.
Kurama even said "Using the chakra you received from the other Bijuu...You were able to pull out the Bijuu chakra from him with one blow" and "...Naruto, you really are....It wouldnt have been possible if the Bijuu hadn't liked him and give him their chakra"
The reality is Naruto already befriend with them since JJ Obito's time but he never ever calls them when they were inside Juubi jin or Kaguya. What make you think he can call them from Kaguya's body out of no where? You just made up thing here.
Their consciousness there being put to halt especially when they became one - Juubi/Kaguya's Six Path Chakra.
Sorry mate, Kaguya is not a JJ but even then nothing suggest Naruto can called them out.
If he want to strip down her chakra, he need the same effort he put on JJ Obito. Throwing TB FRS at Kaguya just helping her to transform.
If you talked about this kid, its all came down to you own interpretation.
You do know that their consciousness dwell inside Naruto.
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In numbers of occasions they talked to Naruto and lend him their power.
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-Kurama
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What enable them to appeared inside Naruto is their chakra even though it just only a scant of chakra.
Apart from gaining power of Bijuu, their chakra albeit small contain their awareness. Only when they separated from Juubi's chakra, they awareness came to alive.
It doesnt take degree level reading comprehension to know from where all those Tailed Beast answering Naruto's asking/calling. It's same as previously, from Naruto's own Consciousness Dimension and not from inside Kaguya's body.
It doesnt show any sign of TB consciousness inside Kaguya's body here.
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If they(TB's conciousness) exist inside Kaguya, Kaguya should and would aware of it and try to manage it but seemingly their consciousness being null and void until they being released from Kaguya's body.
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You claimed Naruto is able to call them when they're inside JJ but Manga showing tells otherwise
Before Obito getting slice by Spiritual sword of Iso Susanoo..
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There is no sign of Naruto calling their name from Inside Obito's body...
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But that sword action help free their body from Juubi holds and enabling Naruto to grab and pull them with their chakra that exist inside Naruto.
The reality is Naruto already befriend with them since JJ Obito's time but he never ever calls them when they were inside Juubi jin or Kaguya. What make you think he can call them from Kaguya's body out of no where? You just made up thing here.
Their consciousness there being put to halt especially when they became one - Juubi/Kaguya's Six Path Chakra.
Sorry mate, Kaguya is not a JJ but even then nothing suggest Naruto can called them out.
If he want to strip down her chakra, he need the same effort he put on JJ Obito. Throwing TB FRS at Kaguya just helping her to transform.
Oh gosh, you really twisted the fact here and there...
since i quote you, it also show the image of manga scan so i dont have to drag the link all over again.
First of all Naruto become the medium and he can always meet all tailed beats and talk to them - first manga fact
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Second when Naruto called for any tailed beast, he get chakra from them - second manga fact
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Third Naruto got extracted from tailed beast and almost died here because of nothin of tailed beast chakra left inside of him here - third manga fact
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Fourth, Jinchuriki always can survive an extraction if there is any tailed beast chakra left inside of them - fourth manga fact
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Fifth, Obito only managed to steal small part of Ichibi and Hachibi for Naruto, not all tailed beasts, so do not even dare to fool in front of me and say bs like post scan showing Ichibi and Hachibi to defend your statement as if all tailed beasts appeared inside of Naruto in Kaguya fight because of that. That scan you posted only show 2 tailed beasts that Obito stole for Naruto, not the rest. Naruto didnt get any other than that.
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Sixth, Despite of only having half of Kyubii, small part of Ichibi and Hachibi inside of him from that moment and foward, Naruto first called for Son to give him chakra to fuel up Lava Rasenshuriken, despite of not having any part of Son inside of him like Ichibi and Hachibi. +guess what, Son was inside of Madara :lol
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Seventh, is what i put in the main topic, Naruto called out for all tailed beasts that dwell within Kaguya to beam up 9 tailed beasts rasenshuriken, whether he hit her and the tailed beats react to that or not, it doesnt changes the matter that he was able to beam up chakra that was still inside of Kaguya, same when he called for Son to give him chakra who at the time was still inside of Madara.
Eighth, now go back and read the manga properly :lol
Sure he can do that but not when they were inside Kaguya and merge as single chakra. Six Path chakra/Senjutsu.
Plus Naruto never interact with them inside Kaguya's own consciousness to prove your point.
If you still deny what I'm posting about. Here I show you:
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Sasuke entering Naruto' own consciousness and met Kurama or talked to him. Does this happen between Naruto and Kaguya where he communicated with TB inside Kaguya? Never happen right.
If that really happen Kaguya should aware of any interruption inside her own chakra.
Second when Naruto called for any tailed beast, he get chakra from them - second manga fact
Sure I know it and then Obito gave Naruto Yin Kurama and 2 other TB's chakra that still missing inside Naruto. Shukaku and Gyuki. Obito also managed to take a little of Yang Kurama chakra. What actually you want to proved here?
The absolute rule of being a Jin. When you no longer hold your tailed beast, you die. But doesnt mean Naruto chakra also gone as Kushina still alive and still have chakra inside her body.
Those tailed beast chakra still present inside Naruto. And Bijuu chakra were separated from Kurama chakra and will not effecting them.
Fourth, Jinchuriki always can survive an extraction if there is any tailed beast chakra left inside of them - fourth manga fact
Sure I know that. And what is the point of this as it doesnt prove anything.
Fifth, Obito only managed to steal small part of Ichibi and Hachibi for Naruto, not all tailed beasts, so do not even dare to fool in front of me and say bs like post scan showing Ichibi and Hachibi to defend your statement as if all tailed beasts appeared inside of Naruto in Kaguya fight because of that. That scan you posted only show 2 tailed beasts that Obito stole for Naruto, not the rest. Naruto didnt get any other than that.
It bcus as what Gyuuki said Naruto only missing two more TB chakra. You're being put into cornered here. I post that scan back.
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And also this:-
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Juubi saw TB chakra present inside Naruto.
And also this:-
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Read the bottom panels. What Kurama said.
Sixth, Despite of only having half of Kyubii, small part of Ichibi and Hachibi inside of him from that moment and foward, Naruto first called for Son to give him chakra to fuel up Lava Rasenshuriken, despite of not having any part of Son inside of him like Ichibi and Hachibi. +guess what, Son was inside of Madara :lol
Naruto still had their chakra. He get it in time they met together before Obito/Tobi sealed them inside Gedo Mazo.
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Naruto not yet using all those chakra to their fullest as he still not capable until he obtained RSM, He used TB chakra to pulled out TB chakra from Obito's body.
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And not from name calling. He called Bijuu's name that dwell inside him and not Kaguya or Obito.
Seventh, is what i put in the main topic, Naruto called out for all tailed beasts that dwell within Kaguya to beam up 9 tailed beasts rasenshuriken, whether he hit her and the tailed beats react to that or not, it doesnt changes the matter that he was able to beam up chakra that was still inside of Kaguya, same when he called for Son to give him chakra who at the time was still inside of Madara.
He used TB chakra that reside inside his own Body. He used it to the fullest until it ran out and leave only Kurama.
Its too easy but what can I do for someone that assuming alot when I just follows mangafact here.
I dont know how you came to conclude that Naruto was talking to tailed best that dwell inside Kaguya or Madara or Obito.
Its like saying apart from using his own chakra and Kurama, Naruto also using Kaguya's chakra for all Tailed Beast attacks and where did Naruto state he used Kaguya's power from tailed beast connection he had? Not making any sense at all.
Eighth, now go back and read the manga properly :lol
As for madAra, well it's a manga fact that he needed sasukes help to take him out. I think that's all we need to know, becauS whatever RSM Naruto has shown, the authors intent is that Madara was superior
Quite the irony here. Naruto is only strong because of external powers that don't belong to him. If your Chara tug war claim is true, then Hagoromo would have found it unnecessary to give him a seal, knowing he could pull the Biju's Chakra from her or Madara. Your claim is fallacious to begin with, as Naruto needed the help of all Shinobi Alliance to drag the Biju's Chakra from Obito, who is many times weaker than Madara and Kaguya.