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He actually is

His hype was confirmed numerous times but people refuse to recognize it.

All techniques in the Hidden Leaf Village (non KKG related) and Hidden clan techniques. Hiruzen, who was described as having massive chakra reserves in his prime, was a MONSTER.


So people will give hiruzen this feat of knowing all jutsus without us seeing him using them but won't give kakashi the same feat when he was said to have copied over a thousand jutsus :sdo: not saying you personally micknerks. Just don't understand the hype
 

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>uses 5 elements
>good in the academy

Downplay is real.

QUOTE=Action Hero;20686029]This dude has to have the most ridiclous wank on the base.Not wank tbh. It's hype and kishi gave him the most
Learning the jutsu of all the Konoha shinobi does. Only non-transmigrant that was compared to Hashirama #FACT

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Imma feats kinda guy. I'm not downplaying him if other people like kakashi can do the same.
 
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So people will give hiruzen this feat of knowing all jutsus without us seeing him using them but won't give kakashi the same feat when he was said to have copied over a thousand jutsus :sdo: not saying you personally micknerks. Just don't understand the hype

This is terrible reasoning. Additionally, by the time we knew he copied that many justu, Kakashi already admitted he was beneath Orochimaru. Anyways, these types of threads are stupid. Every1 will just hype up Minato or Hashirama and say both are better.
 

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This is terrible reasoning. Additionally, by the time we knew he copied that many justu, Kakashi already admitted he was beneath Orochimaru. Anyways, these types of threads are stupid. Every1 will just hype up Minato or Hashirama and say both are better.

Well of course they will, most people would say someone they've actually seen in action is better than someone than theyve never seen do anything
 

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So people will give hiruzen this feat of knowing all jutsus without us seeing him using them but won't give kakashi the same feat when he was said to have copied over a thousand jutsus :sdo: not saying you personally micknerks. Just don't understand the hype

With Hiruzen knowing all jutsu in Hidden leaf you can have some idea of the techniques he can use (shadow clones, FTG, Expansion Jutsu, Dragon Flame Bullet, etc). The problem with kakashi is that it is said he copied 1000 techniques but they dont describe or give any indication what those techniques are so there is no way to varify what jutsu kakashi can use other than the ones he actually has shown.
 

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With Hiruzen knowing all jutsu in Hidden leaf you can have some idea of the techniques he can use (shadow clones, FTG, Expansion Jutsu, Dragon Flame Bullet, etc). The problem with kakashi is that it is said he copied 1000 techniques but they dont describe or give any indication what those techniques are so there is no way to varify what jutsu kakashi can use other than the ones he actually has shown.
That's still not saying he would use them all, oro knew a f ck ton and used like 4 or 5. Regardless, I'm done with the prime hiruzen thing, if people wanna believe some story ebisu was telling(cause he's never lied or exaggerated anything right?) naruto, then fine, you guys can have it
 
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