Universal understanding of chakra?

[Ansatsuken]

You can not use Creation of All Things with just Rikdou Senjutsu is what I'm saying. You need the Rinnegan too.

Rinnegan give you ability to use/master all elements. But creation power came from Rikudou Senjutsu ability. Clear example is TSB. Hagoromo fixed broken earth back then using Sword of Nunobuko(TSB), Kaguya want to create new dimension/planet using TSB

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TSB has all element in it, mean someone who possess Rikudou Senjutsu is able to create all elements chakra balls(TSB). In simple world its like a cooking stock cube where all elements came in complete package.

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With that kind of ability, Naruto as example can create anything and learn anything. He already possess Yin-Yang plus all elements.

And dont confuse it with Yin or Yang specific creation like clones or Genjutsu but elemental Ninjutsu like water, wind, earth etc.

 

[Ricardo]

I thought the manga already did a good job foreshadowing the universal comprehention of chakra with RSM and foreshadowing the rinnegan with the absolute control over life and death.

 

[Jokule67]

The OP stated that the Universal understanding of chakra is to be able to steal chakra without contact. So would that mean only Rinnegan Users with Preta and Kaguya have a Universal understanding of chakra?

No he is saying that Sasuke understands chakra more than Naruto, which is untrue since Sasuke utilizes Rinnegan/Mangekyou as a medium to handle the chakra.

How can you understand all chakra if you cant handle Senjutsu to its full extent. Naruto handles bijuu power, normal power, and Senjutsu power perfectly as well as having a divine state allowing him to use techniques in the blink of an eye that he's never done before awakening a mental state to fully understand chakra itself and its inner workings all the way to yinyang release.

Naruto understands chakra better than Sasuke. Sasuke is able to visually understand it through Rinnegan and Observation.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Rinnegan give you ability to used all elements. But creation power came from Rikudou Senjutsu ability. Clear example is TSB. Hagoromo fixed broken earth back then using Sword of Nunobuko(TSB), Kaguya want to create new dimension/planet using TSB

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TSB has all element in it, mean someone who possess Rikudou Senjutsu is able to create all elements chakra balls(TSB). In simple world its like a cooking stock cube where all elements came in complete package.

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With that kind of ability, Naruto as example can created anything and learn anything. He already possess Yin-Yang plus all elements

Yes, Rikudou Senjutsu lets you repair things due to having all Chakra Natures. But you can not CREATE things without the Rinnegan.

Here Obito makes it clear that Creation of All Things is a DoJutsu. Basically the exact opposite of Izanagi.

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Creating things and healing/repairing are very different.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

The OP stated that the Universal understanding of chakra is to be able to steal chakra without contact. So would that mean only Rinnegan Users with Preta and Kaguya have a Universal understanding of chakra?

True I got you, i see what you mean in regards to op

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I thought the manga already did a good job foreshadowing the creation of all things with RSM and foreshadowing the rinnegan with the absolute control over life and death.

Creation of All Things is a DoJutsu.

 

[Ricardo]

Creation of All Things is a DoJutsu.

didn't pay attention. fixed :sdo:

 

[Ansatsuken]

Yes, Rikudou Senjutsu lets you repair things due to having all Chakra Natures. But you can not CREATE things without the Rinnegan.

Here Obito makes it clear that Creation of All Things is a DoJutsu. Basically the exact opposite of Izanagi.

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Creating things and healing/repairing are very different.

When did Obito stating Rinnegan take part in creation of all thing there, where? Izanagi used by Hagoromo was not a doujutsu but a chakra combination. Yin-Yang elements. Through that explanation.

And Naruto creating Kakashi's eye using his chakra and part of kakashi.

Edit: OK I fix the misconception that occurred earlier.

Actually Naruto as example having a potential to use any elemental ninjutsu and creating a body part.

 

[Itachi Edo]

When did someone show a feat like this?

 

[SasukeSixPack]

I thought the manga already did a good job foreshadowing the universal comprehention of chakra with RSM and foreshadowing the rinnegan with the absolute control over life and death.

The true power is attainable only with the Rinnegan. Repaired a eye is vastly inferior to raising the dead.

 

[Jokule67]

The true power is attainable only with the Rinnegan. Repaired a eye is vastly inferior to raising the dead.

Creation of all things is not a Rinnegan power. Its a Complete mastery of Yin Yang power of Hagaromo. Meaning Naruto AND Sasuke have to perform it. The tech Naruto used was a tiny glimpse of HALF of what COAT can do.

 

[Jokule67]

Yes, Rikudou Senjutsu lets you repair things due to having all Chakra Natures. But you can not CREATE things without the Rinnegan.

Here Obito makes it clear that Creation of All Things is a DoJutsu. Basically the exact opposite of Izanagi.

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Creating things and healing/repairing are very different.

No. This proves that Hagoromo administered form and life through his Superiour Yin and Yang Chakras.

Izanagi is a forbidden move trying to replicate COAT with devastating drawbacks.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Creation of all things is not a Rinnegan power. Its a Complete mastery of Yin Yang power of Hagaromo. Meaning Naruto AND Sasuke have to perform it. The tech Naruto used was a tiny glimpse of HALF of what COAT can do.

The Rin'negan grants mastery over all elements including yin and yang. So im not sure why u r saying Sasuke needs naruto to perform something he already has mastery over.

Sasuke could do what hagoromo did with the juubis chakra to make the tailed beast without narutos help

 

[Jokule67]

The Rin'negan grants mastery over all elements including yin and yang. So im not sure why u r saying Sasuke needs naruto to perform something he already has mastery over.

Sasuke could do what hagoromo did with the juubis chakra to make the tailed beast without narutos help

No he cant. He needs Naruto's Yang. Naruto needs Sasuke's Yin.

Sasuke recieved Hago's Yin and Naruto got the Yang half.

They are both extremely powerful with it. COAT is usable by both of them in one person being Hagoromo with his yinyang seals.

Both Naruto & Sasuke have yinyang and all elements thats not what is needed.

Sasuke doesnt have enougj yang to breath life into anything nor has he ever created something from nothing.