So if Naruto really lost his RSM...

[Styles]

He still have RSM. He just don't have the TSB because the bijuu's chakra isn't active inside of him. Once or if he calls them then he'll get his TSB back.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Base Sasuke already has the boost of acquiring MS, EMS and Rinnegan. He is quite capable of keeping up with Naruto, you're right.

...but Naruto didn't use any of his jutsu either. If he had, it would have quite efficiently portrayed how both of them are surely still be equals. As the series intended them to be.

Naruto needed Kurama cloak for protection,speed,strenght and other stuff.How a sharinagan /rinnegan have to improve Sasuke overall base performance?Sasuke have to train his body to get his speed like chunin exam,strenght and other skill in check.Stop trying to compare Naruto (who is a hokage ,only office 24/7) to Sasuke (who have to journey all over the world)

 

[Jokule67]

sasuke doesn't have base physical abilities. sasuke is roughly on par with bsm when it comes to physical ability,like speed and taijutsu. But he'll need the chakra of the bijuu to actually compete against rsm naruto.

This is true^^^ Sasuke cant actually hurt RSM Naruto with taijutsu. Rinnegan allows him to be a master of Ninjutsu, which would be more effective.
Taijutsu is Rinnegan's main weakness.

 

[SenseiSama]

He still have RSM. He just don't have the TSB because the bijuu's chakra isn't active inside of him. Once or if he calls them then he'll get his TSB back.

RSM is a result of using all the bijuus chakra and you can't activate the cloak without TSB, no one has been shown to de-activate them while using Six Path Senjutsu

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

So the moon crashing down on the earth and killing everyone and his girlfriend-to-be being killed is not enough of a threat to push Naruto to go all out then?

Interesting.

what???pls i'd like a sensible discussion. Why would he use rsm against toneri when he bsm was more than enough to fodderize him? iy;s not as if,if he used rsm,he'd be able to push the moon back into orbit.

 

[Guntah]

Naruto needed Kurama cloak for protection,speed,strenght and other stuff.How a sharinagan /rinnegan have to improve Sasuke overall base performance?Sasuke have to train his body to get his speed like chunin exam,strenght and other skill in check.Stop trying to compare Naruto (who is a hokage ,only office 24/7) to Sasuke (who have to journey all over the world)

It has been confirmed that every time the Uchiha awaken the next level of their Dojutsu, their chakra gets stronger. God only knows what a boost with Rinnegan is capable of. We all saw Sasuke cutting Madara in half, after all. He couldn't do that with simple acquired speed. Also, Kurama cloak offers no protection. Just wanted to point that out.

 

[Jokule67]

RSM is a result of using all the bijuus chakra and you can't activate the cloak without TSB, no one has been shown to de-activate them while using Six Path Senjutsu

Truth Seeker Orbs appear when one is OVERFLOWING with Six Paths Senjutsu.

Naruto is using his own Psuedo Version of RSM.

Having 9 bijuu chakras will power it up to Vote2 form.

 

[Holy God]

If you are talking about the magatama, you cant use that as an indicator. Every Kcm has those. Gaiden is the first to not have them. However he did have RSM eyes.

It's the combination of that and the short cloak. Had he used the Tailed Beasts' chakra he would have gained Truth-Seeking Spheres and the markings on his back. They clearly can't both be Tailed Beast Sage Mode since they look different.

 

[Guntah]

what???pls i'd like a sensible discussion. Why would he use rsm against toneri when he bsm was more than enough to fodderize him? iy;s not as if,if he used rsm,he'd be able to push the moon back into orbit.

It was a good fight, with Naruto taking him down mid-high dif. "Fooderize" is too strong a word for it.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

It has been confirmed that every time the Uchiha awaken the next level of their Dojutsu, their chakra gets stronger. God only knows what a boost with Rinnegan is capable of. We all saw Sasuke cutting Madara in half, after all. He couldn't do that with simple acquired speed. Also, Kurama cloak offers no protection. Just wanted to point that out.

you just prolong this conversation to get a hot thread.I already explain myself to u.Nothing else needed to be stated

 

[Jokule67]

It's the combination of that and the short cloak. Had he used the Tailed Beasts' chakra he would have gained Truth-Seeking Spheres and the markings on his back. They clearly can't both be Tailed Beast Sage Mode since they look different.

I dont see why not since starting from "the last movie" ALL his modes have been changing cuz they play with his design but always keep the EYES consistent.

 

[SenseiSama]

Truth Seeker Orbs appear when one is OVERFLOWING with Six Paths Senjutsu.

When he activates his RSM cloak his body is overflowing with Six Path Senjutsu which is why they appear. His TSB weren't activated and his cloak doesn't have RSM design therefore he was using BSM

Naruto is using his own Psuedo Version of RSM.

Having 9 bijuu chakras will power it up to Vote2 form.

There's no such thing as pseudo-RSM, Naruto was using a stronger version of the BSM because he currently has a stronger body and stronger chakra than what he possessed before meeting the Sage.


Having all their chakra won't only give his VoTE 2 form, even without the cloak he still has their power. Six Path Senjutsu is the Juubi's chakra which means NE combined with all 9 bijuu combined is used when RSM is activated.

 

[Guntah]

you just prolong this conversation to get a hot thread.I already explain myself to u.Nothing else needed to be stated

I don't really care for getting a hot thread nearly as much as I do for getting a good argument. Oh, as an example of what I was saying earlier

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Here, proof that awakening the mangekyo alone has made Sasuke's chakra even stronger. Also, like I already said, Sasuke cutting Madara in half, proof of his evolved speed.

 

[Holy God]

I dont see why not since starting from "the last movie" ALL his modes have been changing cuz they play with his design but always keep the EYES consistent.

His appearance in Naruto Gaiden certainly can't be using Six Paths power because the lack of markings. Now there would only be two movies to differentiate and the special book for The Last: Naruto the Movie specifically states his form to be Tailed Beast Chakra Mode and his Sage Mode eyes still have their markings.

 

[Jokule67]

When he activates his RSM cloak his body is overflowing with Six Path Senjutsu which is why they appear. His TSB weren't activated and his cloak doesn't have RSM design therefore he was using BSM

Naruto is using his own Psuedo Version of RSM.



There's no such thing as pseudo-RSM, Naruto was using a stronger version of the BSM because he currently has a stronger body and stronger chakra than what he possessed before meeting the Sage.


Having all their chakra won't only give his VoTE 2 form, even without the cloak he still has their power. Six Path Senjutsu is the Juubi's chakra which means NE combined with all 9 bijuu combined is used when RSM is activated.

I have already told you this earlier on.

The Mode he used to Beat Toneri was a Psuedo Six Paths Kyuubi Chakra Mode. Its stated in the novel and is canon just like the movie. Thats why he was able to effortlessly compete against TSB.

Ever since then he can improved it to have no pigmentation, but its still not enough for TSB since the 9 bijuu chakras are needed for the extra power boost.

If you dont believe me dont flat out say Im wrong. Go do your research.

 

[Styles]

RSM is a result of using all the bijuus chakra and you can't activate the cloak without TSB, no one has been shown to de-activate them while using Six Path Senjutsu

Not really. Naruto is using RSM but because he didn't call on the bijuu's he didn't get the form he had in VOTE 2 aka the TSB. Because in gaiden and Boruto movie he's just using RSM with Kurama's chakra and not the other 8 bijuu's chakra. If he call on all of them he gets TSB.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Well who said his cloak needs to be the same.
This is BSM...

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And this the partial RSM...

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See the difference, both in Boruto the movie.

 

[Michael]

....then that means that this is BSM, right?

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Yet, with BSM, Naruto fought side by side with Sasuke as an equal.

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So BSM Adult Naruto = Rinnegan Adult Sasuke.

But if RSM>>>BSM.

Does that mean that hypothetically RSM Adult Naruto >>> Sasuke?

In the past, we've seen Naruto and Sasuke with RSM and Rinnegan as clear equals.

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But if that is the case, it would imply Sasuke has fallen behind since then.

So, what's the deal here?

He never lost RSM

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[Uchicha Macho]

I don't really care for getting a hot thread nearly as much as I do for getting a good argument. Oh, as an example of what I was saying earlier

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Here, proof that awakening the mangekyo alone has made Sasuke's chakra even stronger. Also, like I already said, Sasuke cutting Madara in half, proof of his evolved speed.

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Where it state that Sasuke chakra increase? .In addition,this not Sasuke first time activating MS,he faught Killerbee.

 

[Jokule67]

Hey SenseiSama you were right about the Kyuubi Chakra mode in the last. I cant see if you replied right now.

However the eyes do indicate if he is using Six Paths Chakra to heighten his normal Sage Mode which we know he recieved from Hagaromo.

Its the 9 bijuus which bring about the TSB and amplifies his RSM.

But you are right about the Last, sorry about that he is just stronger because of a better link and full kuruma at his side.