Hebi Sasuke>>Sage Mode Naruto

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[video=youtube;9lcaihxAvE0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lcaihxAvE0&index=58&list=PLNGFgTqvE7XRD5c5dXM8q6nfoGe-r0Lu_[/video]

According to Studio Pierrot BSM = MS :bdpf:

and now for real, I know it's a filler, but SP did a REALLY good job portraying how SM without Kurama vs MS fight would look like. Naruto has nothing to deal with Susanoo and he needs Kurama to fight it.

Hebi =< SM
MS > SM
 

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[video=youtube;9lcaihxAvE0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lcaihxAvE0&index=58&list=PLNGFgTqvE7XRD5c5dXM8q6nfoGe-r0Lu_[/video]

According to Studio Pierrot BSM = MS :bdpf:

and now for real, I know it's a filler, but SP did a REALLY good job portraying how SM without Kurama vs MS fight would look like. Naruto has nothing to deal with Susanoo and he needs Kurama to fight it.

Hebi =< SM
MS > SM
You actually enjoyed that 2 min fight??
 

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Backtracking, its wether Naruto could break through Sasuke's Susanoo. I said yes, you said no, I said yes, probably so if he used oddama Rasenshuriken, you said Sasuke could take that out with Enton to which I say....

Yeah. But this is about wether he could break it, not wether Sasuke could avoid having it hit. Because he could, I admit, that's why Naruto loses in the end.
Ah but that's basically saying it'll only break it if sits and try to tank it.

Yes he can. He learned that move in the field. Killer Bee said he had the basics just needed on the field experience.
He still couldn't really use it till after he had BM. Beginning of war arc Naruto still needed practice.

Yeah I can see why. Madara had EMS+Kyuubi to equal Hashirama and his monster reserves+Sage Mode.
What exactly are you saying?
in war arc ems sasuke had jugo's curse mark+kurama and naruto chakra = bsm naruto
Juugo's senjutsu just let Sasuke's attacks hurt JJ Obito. And Kurama's chakra just made his attacks stronger it didn't give him legged Susano'o or PS Sasuke was gonna use one of them when Naruto told him if he could keep up.
 

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Sasuke needed that boost he wasnt progressed as much as Naruto yet. Alots ppl think he automatic had PS and kyuubi/juugo/naruto did nothing for him when thats freaking insane considering how much it powered up everyone else.
Sasuke wasn't powered by Juugo or Naruto when he merged his PS with Kurama. The fact that he could do the same thing Madara did with Kyuubi means he has PS on his own.
 

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If you actually read the manga, you would know that in that scan Naruto was talking about needing Kurama to defeat Sasuke.
He said that he was tired of running away from bein a Jin and so he went to train KB. :sdo:
Well I am talking after reading the manga and if you didn't notice then the meeting Naruto and Sasuke had under the bridge, Sasuke was clearly exhausted and on the verge of blindness from MS overuse. Naruto clearly had the advantage there if he wanted to kill Sasuke.
Sasuke was going blind anyway so would've been easy kill for Naruto if that's what he wanted but as usual he's the benevolent protagonist. So the remark he made was clearly him about not able to take on Sasuke as he is without killing him with the abilities Naruto had back then and that's why he wanted to gain a higher power by controlling Kurama.
So if you actually read the manga then I am sure this would make sense to you....:coffee:
 

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That Sasukebase sig automatically strips you of any credit you might have in my eyes.

But I digress. Its easy to see one side of things when Sasuke needed numerous power ups of his own, like his brother's eyes and the Rikudo chakra to match Naruto. And guess what? Tell 'im, Sasuke:

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You and a cop both shoot each other, you both die. In ghost form, you say you lost. But did you really lose?
 

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People argue, argue, argue....but I still don't see how Sasuke takes this. CQC is useless, both with and without his sword, Genjutsu won't work seeing as Sage Mode is the best way to avoid it and Naruto knows not to make eye contact with a Sharingan user, there won't be any time for Kirin, snakes are countered by toads, Sage Mode>>>>Curse Seal, and all this leaves Sasuke with are his Katon and Chidori variations, which can only hold Naruto back for so long.

Yeah, Naruto takes this mid dif. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
 

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People argue, argue, argue....but I still don't see how Sasuke takes this. CQC is useless, both with and without his sword, Genjutsu won't work seeing as Sage Mode is the best way to avoid it and Naruto knows not to make eye contact with a Sharingan user, there won't be any time for Kirin, snakes are countered by toads, Sage Mode>>>>Curse Seal, and all this leaves Sasuke with are his Katon and Chidori variations, which can only hold Naruto back for so long.

Yeah, Naruto takes this mid dif. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
Sasuke can run from him for 5 min before he attacks? Lol
 

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Sasuke wasn't powered by Juugo or Naruto when he merged his PS with Kurama. The fact that he could do the same thing Madara did with Kyuubi means he has PS on his own.
Thats not what I mean. Him recieveing the improved super strong kyuubi cloak powers up everyonem Sasuke was not progressed far enough yet. The kyuubi chakra gave him the boost.

It allowed Kakashi the ability to transport the WHOLE hachibi and go to & from kamui. That whole time Sasuke was brandishing Susano'o he had the sharp kyuubi cloak around him. He recieved power from Naruto and he uses it effortlessly without waisting progress. Before then he only had full cloak form, then he got legs from kyuubi cloak and onward.
 

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Ah but that's basically saying it'll only break it if sits and try to tank it.


He still couldn't really use it till after he had BM. Beginning of war arc Naruto still needed practice.


What exactly are you saying?

Juugo's senjutsu just let Sasuke's attacks hurt JJ Obito. And Kurama's chakra just made his attacks stronger it didn't give him legged Susano'o or PS Sasuke was gonna use one of them when Naruto told him if he could keep up.
I was saying withouy the kyuubi Maddy cant equal Hashirama. And without Kurama Naruto cant equal Sasuke.

Kurama is a major factor in both generations so I can see why EMS Sasuke equals BSM Naruto.

Naruto has SM but not the sheer volume of chakra and power as Hashi b4 him. Kyuubi makes up for that.

Sasuke can produce that power on his own with EMS like Hashi produces majority of his own power. So it balances out like their predecessors.
 

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You're the one who needs to be accept reality. The scan clearly states that Naruto can't defeat MS Sasuke. So...

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If you actually read the manga, you would know that in that scan Naruto was talking about needing Kurama to defeat Sasuke.
He said that he was tired of running away from bein a Jin and so he went to train KB. :sdo:
Thats because he knew Sasuke was going to get stronger and thats exactly what happened with EMS.
 

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The funny thing is hebi sasuke can take this Lol sage mode lasts 5 minutes without prep time sasuke can last longer than that easily with his speed and power and once naruto loses sage mode its a stomp thats hebi sasuke with cm2 vs kakazu arc naruto embarrassing defeat follows the tier list is like this

1.Adult sasuke /Hokage naruto
2.rinnegsn sasuke /rsm naruto
3.Ems sasuke /bsm naruto
4.legged sussano /bijuu mode naruto
5.Ems sasuke > > Kcm naruto
6.Ms sasuke = kcm naruto
7.Ms sasuke >> sage mode naruto as stated by naruto himself
8.Hebi sasuke >= sage mode naruto
9.vote 1 sasuke >> vote 1 naruto dnt forget it
 

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The funny thing is hebi sasuke can take this Lol sage mode lasts 5 minutes without prep time sasuke can last longer than that easily with his speed and power and once naruto loses sage mode its a stomp thats hebi sasuke with cm2 vs kakazu arc naruto embarrassing defeat follows the tier list is like this

1.Adult sasuke /Hokage naruto
2.rinnegsn sasuke /rsm naruto
3.Ems sasuke /bsm naruto
4.legged sussano /bijuu mode naruto
5.Ems sasuke > > Kcm naruto
6.Ms sasuke = kcm naruto
7.Ms sasuke >> sage mode naruto as stated by naruto himself
8.Hebi sasuke >= sage mode naruto
9.vote 1 sasuke >> vote 1 naruto dnt forget it
Manga fact the Sage Mode Naruto>Hebi Sasuke he has way more resources than Sasuke and power.

And Naruto never admitted Sasuke being stronger than him. Go read the right translation.

And Sasuke only progressed that fast with EMS because of the Chakra from Kyuubi and Naruto so if Naruto isnt at Full Potential SM you cant give Sasuke all his Ms/EMS feats.
 
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And fapboys took it despite the answer being clear as day, thread is succesfull :bdpf:.
Precisely. They just can't stand there and do anything at the chance to defend their precious Lord Sasuke's dignity, even if its obviously a losing battle. :lol

I could post a Part 1 Sasuke vs RSM Naruto thread and you can be certain that someone would step in to defend Sasuke.
 
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