Early EMS Sasuke Vs CM2 Hebi Sasuke

[neosmith500]

Sasuke was talking about his eyes/body being able to react, not any strength or speed enhancements. Even if you were correct, it'd then go like this:

2T CM = 3T
3T CM = MS
3T CM2 >= EMS

EMS Sasuke seemingly lacks in every department except for eyesight, there's no way he can win.

How could 3T CM = MS when MS was directly compared to CS2? makes zero sense since we know that hate + more power , which adds up to stronger and bigger chakra , not to mention a increase in reserves , the extra hightened precog from ems also helps to make sure that this is a neg diff win in his favor.


The correct analogy is this:

2T CM = 3T
MS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3T CM.

MS>>>>>>>> 3T CM2

EMS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3T CS2

 

[Holy God]

How could 3T CM = MS when MS was directly compared to CS2? makes zero sense since we know that hate + more power , which adds up to stronger and bigger chakra , not to mention a increase in reserves , the extra hightened precog from ems also helps to make sure that this is a neg diff win in his favor.


The correct analogy is this:

2T CM = 3T
MS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3T CM.

MS>>>>>>>> 3T CM2

EMS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3T CS2

You're really exaggerating the boost given from Sharingan upgrades. If 2T CM = 3T, then 3T CM > 3T thus 3T CM = MS. I don't know when you're referring to that it states CM2 is comparable to MS, but if that's the case then you've simply proven that the difference is miniscule. Slightly stronger chakra and prediction won't make up for the difference the Curse Mark provides.

 

[neosmith500]

You're really exaggerating the boost given from Sharingan upgrades. If 2T CM = 3T, then 3T CM > 3T thus 3T CM = MS. I don't know when you're referring to that it states CM2 is comparable to MS, but if that's the case then you've simply proven that the difference is miniscule. Slightly stronger chakra and prediction won't make up for the difference the Curse Mark provides.

I already told u why 3T CM1 cant be = to MS and it was noted when karin sensed 3T Sasukes chakra back at the summit. EMS has much stronger chakra not slightly , since MS made 3T much darker than CS2 , which we know = power for uchihas and power = Chakra = way better stats than CS2.
EMS jumps far beyond even MS chakra level , so how could CS2 compare to EMS?

Could u detail the differences the CS provides for me? and how do u see him winning ?

 

[Holy God]

I already told u why 3T CM1 cant be = to MS and it was noted when karin sensed 3T Sasukes chakra back at the summit. EMS has much stronger chakra not slightly , since MS made 3T much darker than CS2 , which we know = power for uchihas and power = Chakra = way better stats than CS2.
EMS jumps far beyond even MS chakra level , so how could CS2 compare to EMS?

Could u detail the differences the CS provides for me? and how do u see him winning ?

I don't think you can compare the darkness of one's chakra with their potency. Even in the beginning of Naruto Shippuuden Kurama stated Sasuke's chakra was darker than his own (and like EMS Madara's), but we all know that his potency couldn't come close. If that's what your basing these levels off of it wouldn't make sense.

As for the Curse Mark, in all it provides increased physical strength, speed, and reflexes (as Sasuke has compared the first level to that of an entire Sharingan upgrade), and of course with it's sage chakra one's techniques become vastly more powerful. Because of how the Curse Mark works it also provides Sasuke an entirely second source of chakra, that being Orochimaru's, whom also allows Sasuke to create snakes on whim. Lastly he receives wings which are more durable than the rest of his body and can of course be used to gain aerial advantage.

 

[TheSages456]

There literally isn't any physical statistical difference between any form of part 2 Sasuke bar ocular perception from higher sharingan forms.

One Sasuke is powered up by Sage transformation. The other is not. It's quite obvious who wins.

 

[BLAZE]

EMS Sasuke is Hebi sasuke+massive stats boost seen during war arc aka him fighting JJ Obito and landing hit on much superior SM Madara.CM2 has flight advantage which is negated by Hawk
Don't see how CM2 Sasuke lands a fatal hit without getting manhandled

I don't think

lel

There literally isn't any physical statistical difference between any form of part 2 Sasuke bar ocular perception from higher sharingan forms..

yeah hideout sasuke blitzes and manhandles JJ madara

 

[Holy God]

EMS Sasuke is Hebi sasuke+massive stats boost seen during war arc aka him fighting JJ Obito and landing hit on much superior SM Madara

Both of those are completely invalid as this Sasuke just awakened EMS and Sasuke himself said his Sharingan was adapting to Obito's speed.

 

[BLAZE]

Both of those are completely invalid as this Sasuke just awakened EMS and Sasuke himself said his Sharingan was adapting to Obito's speed.

lol and his body was keeping with his speed.

 

[Holy God]

lol and his body was keeping with his speed.

I really hope you're not comparing being in Susano'o (which he got destroyed anyways) to close-quarters. We've seen that Sasuke cannot react to Obito in that sense.

 

[BLAZE]

I really hope you're not comparing being in Susano'o (which he got destroyed anyways) to close-quarters. We've seen that Sasuke cannot react to Obito in that sense.

strictly taling about reacting to and keeping up with a jj who blitzed two ages [

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[Holy God]

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1: He reacted to Naruto yelling.
2: Invalid URL.
3: Obito wasn't traveling on foot/flying and Madara admitted that Truth-Seeking Spheres are slower than the host themselves. Even besides that Sasuke was warned prior from Naruto's yelling in the first picture.

 

[BLAZE]

1: He reacted to Naruto yelling.

Reacted to JJ's assualt despite being at good distance from both him and naruto

2: Invalid URL.

That is Minato in kcm trying to save naruto sasuke does it first

3: Obito wasn't traveling on foot/flying and Madara admitted that Truth-Seeking Spheres are slower than the host themselves. Even besides that Sasuke was warned prior from Naruto's yelling in the first picture.

Sasuke reacted to execution of attack from a char despite being at a good distance from that char that has already blitzed Two Hokage's one of the them being fastest of his genration

 

[Holy God]

Reacted to JJ's assualt despite being at good distance from both him and Naruto

He turned after Naruto yelled and was mere feet from the explosion.

That is Minato in kcm trying to save naruto sasuke does it first

Minato didn't teleport because he saw Sasuke with Susano'o. It doesn't really help him in this instance.

Sasuke reacted to execution of attack from a char despite being at a good distance from that char that has already blitzed Two Hokage's one of the them being fastest of his genration

He reacted to Obito's first attack and ran over before execution of the second targeting Naruto, one that is obviously slower than if Obito were flying at Naruto.

 

[BLAZE]

He turned after Naruto yelled and was mere feet from the explosion.

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Minato didn't teleport because he saw Sasuke with Susano'o. It doesn't really help him in this instance.

Minato is in kcm and thus his footspeed is tier above Hebi Sasukesame goes for his reactions or is that so hard for you to grasp

He reacted to Obito's first attack and ran over before execution of the second targeting Naruto, one that is obviously slower than if Obito were flying at Naruto.

Thus he reacted to a JJ who was at a good distance and executing his attack and in the interval he not only closed the distance but activated susanoo and used it protect naruto.

Oh but according to your trash logic Hebi sasuke can do the same despite a sic Itachi keeping up with and overpowering him

 

[Holy God]

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That's the image I was using. He's literally a couple rocks from the explosion. At most 200 feet which isn't far for a ninja.

Minato is in kcm and thus his footspeed is tier above Hebi Sasukesame goes for his reactions or is that so hard for you to grasp

Sasuke was there before Minato even attempted to save him. It's invalid.

Thus he reacted to a JJ who was at a good distance and executing his attack and in the interval he not only closed the distance but activated susanoo and used it protect naruto.

Sasuke reacted to an Obito who wasn't in control, wasn't targeting him, and wasn't using his flight or feet, not to mention that Sasuke was running before Obito attempted to attack. It's not as impressive as you think.


I hope you do know that seconds later Sasuke gets wrecked by Obito, being unable to react to a physical encounter as I've pointed out.

 

[V h o]

Don't see how CM sasuke wins.....or could.

 

[LoZelda101]

Is there any concrete proof MS and ems boost precog. Curse seal boost physical stats, chakra and durability, by default it should be able to handle mangekyou sasuke in cqc

 

[LoZelda101]

You're really exaggerating the boost given from Sharingan upgrades. If 2T CM = 3T, then 3T CM > 3T thus 3T CM = MS. I don't know when you're referring to that it states CM2 is comparable to MS, but if that's the case then you've simply proven that the difference is miniscule. Slightly stronger chakra and prediction won't make up for the difference the Curse Mark provides.

Yeah doesn't curse mark boost KKG ability. iirc

 

[Holy God]

Yeah doesn't curse mark boost KKG ability. iirc

From what we've been shown from other Curse Mark users and that Sasuke compared 3T to 2T with the Curse Mark, it does.

 

[LoZelda101]

From what we've been shown from other Curse Mark users and that Sasuke compared 3T to 2T with the Curse Mark, it does.

I guess you're referring to this right?

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He did say 3T was the better alternative to reserve chakra. That's it. Nothing about better cqc. Also now that i think about it. If what you say is true about 3T CM = MS. That might be how he was able to break tsuku (unless itachi held back on that)

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Unless the curse seal was only a genjutsu sequence. Idk