List of people who could break through Perfect Susanoo

[Guntah]

i feel like Ōnoki, the third Tsuchikage could. in his prime if he focused his dust release he could break a perfect susanoo

Yeah, a direct hit should have enough firepower to break through it. I'll add them in.

 

[Guntah]

Why would it slicing the moon mean PS can't tank it?

Its destructive power, which would pierce through the weaker PS.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

All No.

C0 didn't incinerate Manda and Sasuke and it's destructive power isn't enough to break PS.
You have no proof Totsuka can pierce it.
Momoshiki and Kinshiki's attacks < Shinshusenju's punches so it depends
Warping isn't breaking.
Enma's staff can't bust mountain's, it's not breaking it.

totsukya can pierce basically anything. Momoshiki and Kinshiki both>>>>>shinsuusenju, they're not even at the same league.
warping objects away is breaking through it. Just look at what what it did to madara's tsb.

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And for C0. Look at what it what it can do to mountains and look at the height of the jutsu. It's the biggest one in the whole series. I also hope you know that it's just hollowed out chakra structure too. Manda has the dense structure of a bijuu, so if you were to put the kyuubi in that nuclear blast then of course it wouldn't incinerate

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[Guntah]

totsukya can pierce basically anything. Momoshiki and Kinshiki both>>>>>shinsuusenju, they're not even at the same league.
warping objects away is breaking through it. Just look at what what it did to madara's tsb.

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And for C0. Look at what it what it can do to mountains and look at the height of the jutsu. It's the biggest one in the whole series.

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While strong, neither Momoshiki nor Kinshiki ever showed any non absorbed-reflected jutsu that could piere through the Perfect Susanoo.

Totsuka was never stated to be able to pierce through everything, it was stated to be able to seal stuff, and I'm talking about breaking through with force, not sealing.

As for the largest explosion in the manga....

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[Holy God]

Its destructive power, which would pierce through the weaker PS.

I agree that Toneri should be able to damage Perfect Susano'o, but that's a weak argument. Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion slicing the moon in half simply means that it can destroy rock, which many other techniques can do. That only supports it's range, not it's power.

 

[Guntah]

I agree that Toneri should be able to damage Perfect Susano'o, but that's a weak argument. Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion slicing the moon in half simply means that it can destroy rock, which many other techniques can do. That only supports it's range, not it's power.

Not just rock. An entire moon, without even slowing down. In a single swipe.

How much damage should that kind of destructive power do while focussed in a single blast?

 

[Holy God]

Not just rock. An entire moon, without even slowing down. In a single swipe.

How much damage should that kind of destructive power do while focussed in a single blast?

The moon is completely rock (maybe even somewhat hollow in order for Toneri to live inside?), so it says nothing for it's power but everything for it's range. Throw a Tailed Beast Bomb at Naruto's hand and it probably won't survive. Can't say the same for Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion.

 

[Guntah]

The moon is completely rock (maybe even somewhat hollow in order for Toneri to live inside?), so it says nothing for it's power but everything for it's range. Throw a Tailed Beast Bomb at Naruto's hand and it probably won't survive. Can't say the same for Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion.

You think so?

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Because I think it should be taken into account that Naruto using the Bijuu Mode for the very first time deflected five Tailed Beast Bombs at once while a Naruto who had two years to master the Rikudo Sage Mode and experienced the technique's uncondensed power firsthand found it necessary to move all his energy into one arm to be able to tank the technique as it was firing at him.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

While strong, neither Momoshiki nor Kinshiki ever showed any non absorbed-reflected jutsu that could piere through the Perfect Susanoo.

I mean Hamura is on the same boat, but I won't be dumb enough to say that a Perfect Susanoo can beat him. Momoshiki and Kinshiki to me are above Juubi jinchuuriki Obito level. Kinshiki himself was able to one-shot their God-tree and they got Kaguya scared. They're Ootsutsukis man.

Totsuka was never stated to be able to pierce through everything, it was stated to be able to seal stuff, and I'm talking about breaking through with force, not sealing.

Oh okay. Never mind then.... You right.

As for the largest explosion in the manga....

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Agreed, that thing is the biggest explosion. I was just talking about in terms of jutsus, C0 takes the cake as the biggest explosion if not counting bijuu bombs.

 

[TheSages456]

You think so?

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Because I think it should be taken into account that Naruto using the Bijuu Mode for the very first time deflected five Tailed Beast Bombs at once while a Naruto who had two years to master the Rikudo Sage Mode and experienced the technique's uncondensed power firsthand found it necessary to move all his energy into one arm to be able to tank the technique as it was firing at him.

Naruto used Biju Sage Mode, not Six Paths Sage mode, but it's a rather pointless distinction in this case anyway since Golden Wheel couldn't hurt him while a katana could pierce him.

 

[Holy God]

You think so?

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Because I think it should be taken into account that Naruto using the Bijuu Mode for the very first time deflected five Tailed Beast Bombs at once while a Naruto who had two years to master the Rikudo Sage Mode and experienced the technique's uncondensed power firsthand found it necessary to move all his energy into one arm to be able to tank the technique as it was firing at him.

The Tailed Beast Bombs didn't even explode so that was a bad example. Besides, as my first post already stated, I was simply saying destroying rock does not prove it's power.

 

[Guntah]

I mean Hamura is on the same boat, but I won't be dumb enough to say that a Perfect Susanoo can beat him. Momoshiki and Kinshiki to me are above Juubi jinchuuriki Obito level. Kinshiki himself was able to one-shot their God-tree and they got Kaguya scared. They're Ootsutsukis man.

I know, and I completely agree with you. Those two could destroy the Perfect Susanoo if they wanted to, more likely than not with ease even. However, if I don't take into account Canon feats only, this thread becomes a mess as to what people should be able to do based on what people said they were able to do. If I take into account their top destructive solo feat, the cutting of the Shinju...well, Naruto's own lava Rasenshuriken sliced through what could be argued to be a far more powerful Shinju, (Seeing as it was still living) and I myself would be doubtful to see that destroying a PS.

Agreed, that thing is the biggest explosion. I was just talking about in terms of jutsus, C0 takes the cake as the biggest explosion if not counting bijuu bombs.

In that case, yeah, you're right. That explosion is the biggest non-bijuu influenced one in the manga

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I know, and I completely agree with you. Those two could destroy the Perfect Susanoo if they wanted to, more likely than not with ease even. However, if I don't take into account Canon feats only, this thread becomes a mess as to what people should be able to do based on what people said they were able to do. If I take into account their top destructive solo feat, the cutting of the Shinju...well, Naruto's own lava Rasenshuriken sliced through what could be argued to be a far more powerful Shinju, (Seeing as it was still living) and I myself would be doubtful to see that destroying a PS.




In that case, yeah, you're right. That explosion is the biggest non-bijuu influenced one in the manga

I see your point. As for me I think that RSM naruto's senpou lava-rasenshuriken can break Perfect Susanoo. That's why I thought that cutting shinjuu tree feat was worth mentioning.

 

[Guntah]

Naruto used Biju Sage Mode, not Six Paths Sage mode, but it's a rather pointless distinction in this case anyway since Golden Wheel couldn't hurt him while a katana could pierce him.

No, he used RSM. The distinction between those was clearly shown in Boruto. But regarding the main point of this post...actually, I don't see it. We have a very large scale attack with relatively low power due to it being unfocused, allowing Naruto to heal offscreen before jumping back into battle versus a katana stabbed into Naruto's gut...which automatically healed as soon as he removed it.

The Tailed Beast Bombs didn't even explode so that was a bad example. Besides, as my first post already stated, I was simply saying destroying rock does not prove it's power.

How is that a bad example? Those are five massive spheres of highly condensed chakra being launched at him which he uses a physical blow to get rid off with no visible struggle. In the opposite hand we have a far more powerful Naruto who had all his power moved to one arm so he can block a condensed attack launched at his way. One situation showcases a far bigger struggle in stopping the attack than the other.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Tsunade and Sakura can . Tsunade already broke through Madara's rib cage Susanoo. It isn't far fetched to say that their strength can't break through the PS.

7-8 Gates Gai would destroy it as well. Hirudora destroyed a V3 Susanoo so PS is within his range.

 

[Holy God]

How is that a bad example? Those are five massive spheres of highly condensed chakra being launched at him which he uses a physical blow to get rid off with no visible struggle. In the opposite hand we have a far more powerful Naruto who had all his power moved to one arm so he can block a condensed attack launched at his way. One situation showcases a far bigger struggle in stopping the attack than the other.

Perhaps because in one case the attack didn't explode thus had no effect on Naruto except for physical velocity and the other the attack was using it's full power.

 

[Styles]

If his avatar is powerful enough to block it, why would he not use it? He's shown to summon it easily enough before,

No, despite what's written underneath my username, its not sarcasm.

Not that fast what Toneri used was to fast.

 

[Guntah]

Not that fast what Toneri used was to fast.

Not that much. He does have time to direct all chakra to his arm. Plus, he's been shown to summon it in short notice before.

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[Guntah]

Perhaps because in one case the attack didn't explode thus had no effect on Naruto except for physical velocity and the other the attack was using it's full power.

I know that the difference between a launched Bijuudama and its exploding power is big, but you really think its big to the point of covering the entire gap between what Naruto using Bijuu Mode for the first time and Naruto after training with the Rikudo Sennin Mode for two years could do?

 

[TheSages456]

No, he used RSM. The distinction between those was clearly shown in Boruto. But regarding the main point of this post...actually, I don't see it. We have a very large scale attack with relatively low power due to it being unfocused, allowing Naruto to heal offscreen before jumping back into battle versus a katana stabbed into Naruto's gut...which automatically healed as soon as he removed it.

There was no distinction made between BSM and Six Paths Sage mode in Boruto. Sage mode has pigmentation, Six Paths Sage mode does not.

The movie guidebooks for The Last clearly stated that he used Kurama chakra mode in conjunction with Sage mode and that's what's shown.