VOTE 02 Sasuke vs VOTE Madara and VOTE Hashirama

[Kyle storm]

Just to see if people still downplay sasuke and wank madara/hashirama .

My opinion ? Sasuke wins low diff :

Kurama is taken out with a Rinnegan genjutsu GG + CT , sasuke dojutsu is superior to madara so his genjutsu will definitly subdue the kyuubi .
Madara's susanoo is easily destroyed with punchs or casual lightning infused arrows , his susanoo is not even on the level of Sasuke without the bijuu .
- Hashirama is the weak link , he is slower than madara , so Amenotejikara blitz and a sword and he's dead .
- any mokuton is destroyed via lightning arrows , and if SS is out , Indra's arrow will turn it to dust .
easy win for sasuke , the bijuu aren't even needed .


- Hashirama who's inferior to EMS madara in speed and reactions , whom in a far stronger state failed to react to sasuke's ameno even as the juubi host , gets utterly gutted by sasuke .
Unless you believe that Hashirama>JJ Madara in reaction speed, Hashirama gets a Chidori shoved through his heart or he gets bisected like Madara did. It's extremely one sided. Feats will tell you that , Hashirama dies .

considering that Sasuke in The Last is much stronger than he was in the Manga, and Gaiden Sasuke is at the very least on par with The Last Sasuke, but most likely he's much stronger than that. His poor performance was believed to be because he got weaker, but Manga debunked that when he revealed that he was gimped.

With amenotejikara / rinnegan susanoo combo sasuke will dodge any attack from madara's isu susanoo , ameno/chidori susanoo combo = madara's susanoo getting a hole torn through it's torso , madara dies afterwards

due to having half of Hagoromo's chakra. His boost in his jutsu's power has literally nothing to do with Rinnegan. Perfect Susanoo was shredding up CT orbs the size of the Shinju's root with one slash. PS Chidori matched RSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama. Madara's Susanoo gets obliterated with zero difficulty and he gets gutted.

-Mokuton? Laughable. The strongest Mokuton only matches PS Kurama, which is weaker than Sasuke's PS which can clash equally with a Rikudo enhanced Kurama Mode Naruto.

-PS? Laughable. Sasuke's PS's feats are FAR above Madara's. CT Meteor the size of Shinju's root DC>>>>>>>>>>>regular Mountain DC.

He stomps Rinnegan Madara, Hashirama and VoTE Madara w/ or w/o Rinnegan mastery.

Basically , all what sasuke has to do is shift one of these clowns to the line of his attack mid strike , like he did in this scenario

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Now unless someone is a fanboy , a moron , an idiot , or just didn't / couldn't / chose not to read the manga , he'll damn sure know that thses two are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar below JJ madara in reaction speed , they'll put in th same position as madara , and they die .

 

[SasukeSixPack]

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And they are dead.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

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And they are dead.

Game over !Sasuke win.,flawless victory

 

[Holy God]

Sasuke only wins if he can end it with close-quarters Amenotejikara.

 

[Scryed]

Sasuke slaughters them.


...Mid difficulty fight in Sasuke's favor.

 

[Omar19992010]

Sasuke very low difficulty.

 

[lndra]

Sasuke rofllstomps both

 

[BLAZE]

lol at Hashirama being slower when he was crossing mountains outrunning Eso Susanoo

OT:Sasuke takes it handily

 

[Jinrou]

Is it possible to genjutsu someone that is already under a genjutsu? Because Kurama will already be under Madara's genjutsu. As for CT, since Kurama is under Madara's genjutsu he can be controlled to fire off a bijuu bomb at its core yes?

You say the bijuu aren't needed at the end of your post but iirc, despite Sasuke absorbing the bijuu's chakra, he was only able to fire off 1 Indra arrow and was more or less exhausted after that?

Amenotejikara blitz and a sword to Hashirama and he's dead? Just like that? Iirc, didn't Madara say Tsunade's byakugou healing was inferior to Hashirama's? A fact Tsunade herself attested to?

Sasuke probably wins...but I doubt it'll be low diff or a stomp as you're trying to imply.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Sasuke wins this mid diff, despite sasuke being stronger than both seperately(imo) I'd like to think he'd run into some slight problems..... It is hashi and mads in their prime I wouldn't take fighting both at once lightly no matter how strong I was

 

[Kyle storm]

Is it possible to genjutsu someone that is already under a genjutsu? Because Kurama will already be under Madara's genjutsu. As for CT, since Kurama is under Madara's genjutsu he can be controlled to fire off a bijuu bomb at its core yes?

You say the bijuu aren't needed at the end of your post but iirc, despite Sasuke absorbing the bijuu's chakra, he was only able to fire off 1 Indra arrow and was more or less exhausted after that?

Amenotejikara blitz and a sword to Hashirama and he's dead? Just like that? Iirc, didn't Madara say Tsunade's byakugou healing was inferior to Hashirama's? A fact Tsunade herself attested to?

Sasuke probably wins...but I doubt it'll be low diff or a stomp as you're trying to imply.

01 - Sasuke's rinnegan is superior to madara's EMS , so his control will overpower madara's , it's like when Koto's control overpowered kabuto's control over itachi , and sasuke showed the ability to Genjutsu 9 bijuu at the same time .
02 - Sasuke's CT doesn't have cores , the bijuu is the core itself , there's nothing to fire a bijuudama at , Genjutsu to the kyuubi , and then chibaku tensei ends this .
03 - Sasuke's susanoo was still infused with lightning chakra even after shooting his Indra arrow , after the explosion happened , his susanoo was destroyed , and the chakra has gone . So h clearly can use Indra's arrow more than once .
And yes , he doesn't need the bijuu , his susanoo was destroying meteors the size of the Shinjuu tree , a single fragment pf those meteors dwarf mountain ranges in size , do the math .
04 - madara said that tsunade's regeneration was inferior to hashi's because she uses hand seals , not that her regeneration was inferior in quality .
05 - hashirama can't regenerate his head , and he was going to kill himself witha LOL Kunai , and sasuke was also able to cut Juubi madaar in half using Chidori spear , so hashirama gets obliterated .
06 - it's a terrible stomp , a very terrible stomp i might add .

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Bijuu PS would shit on either. You can argue that Sasuke wouldn't need it but with Bijuu PS, Sasuke wins very low diff.

 

[Jinrou]

01 - Sasuke's rinnegan is superior to madara's EMS , so his control will overpower madara's , it's like when Koto's control overpowered kabuto's control over itachi , and sasuke showed the ability to Genjutsu 9 bijuu at the same time .
02 - Sasuke's CT doesn't have cores , the bijuu is the core itself , there's nothing to fire a bijuudama at , Genjutsu to the kyuubi , and then chibaku tensei ends this .
03 - Sasuke's susanoo was still infused with lightning chakra even after shooting his Indra arrow , after the explosion happened , his susanoo was destroyed , and the chakra has gone . So h clearly can use Indra's arrow more than once .
And yes , he doesn't need the bijuu , his susanoo was destroying meteors the size of the Shinjuu tree , a single fragment pf those meteors dwarf mountain ranges in size , do the math .
04 - madara said that tsunade's regeneration was inferior to hashi's because she uses hand seals , not that her regeneration was inferior in quality .
05 - hashirama can't regenerate his head , and he was going to kill himself witha LOL Kunai , and sasuke was also able to cut Juubi madaar in half using Chidori spear , so hashirama gets obliterated .
06 - it's a terrible stomp , a very terrible stomp i might add .

Good points.

I'm not entirely convinced on the genjutsu and Indra arrow though.

- Kurama's consciousness will be inside a genjutsu so for Sasuke to put him in a genjutsu of his own, he'll have to release him from Madara's genjutsu first..I think.

- Sasuke said himself after firing the Indra arrow that he used up too much chakra and can't control his left eye. And this is despite absorbing chakra from 8 and a half bijuu?

I'm also still iffy about the regeneration. The tails of the tailed beasts received some hype iirc? If correct, all 9 beasts actuality swiped their tails at the same time on blind Madara. He emerged with a missing limb and injuries but those injuries healed instantly and he cut off a Zetsu arm and just attached it to himself and it stuck perfectly. Without much fuss..I don't think Tsunade showed any regenerative/healing ability on this level?

Tbh I don't know much about any of these characters abilities but I still doubt Sasuke takes this low diff. Hopefully someone more informed comes to debate this. After all he will be fighting an Indra and Ashura transmigrant at once right?

 

[Kyle storm]

Good points.

I'm not entirely convinced on the genjutsu and Indra arrow though.

- Kurama's consciousness will be inside a genjutsu so for Sasuke to put him in a genjutsu of his own, he'll have to release him from Madara's genjutsu first..I think.

- Sasuke said himself after firing the Indra arrow that he used up too much chakra and can't control his left eye. And this is despite absorbing chakra from 8 and a half bijuu?

I'm also still iffy about the regeneration. The tails of the tailed beasts received some hype iirc? If correct, all 9 beasts actuality swiped their tails at the same time on blind Madara. He emerged with a missing limb and injuries but those injuries healed instantly and he cut off a Zetsu arm and just attached it to himself and it stuck perfectly. Without much fuss..I don't think Tsunade showed any regenerative/healing ability on this level?

Tbh I don't know much about any of these characters abilities but I still doubt Sasuke takes this low diff. Hopefully someone more informed comes to debate this. After all he will be fighting an Indra and Ashura transmigrant at once right?

Thank you .

01 - A stronger genjutsu can overpower a weaker genjutsu , so yes it will happen .
Remember Itachi's genjutsu overpowering Kurenai's genjutsu and turning it against her .
Itachi and Sasuke releasing each other from Kabuto's genjutsu using stronger genjutsu , which is Tsukuyomi .
Madara is controlling the Kyuubi with EMS , Sasuke uses Rinnegan genjutsu , and Kyuubi's is under Sasuke's control .
02 - Sasuke said that he was low on his own chakra , Sasuke absorbed the bijuu chakra in his susanoo , not in his body , and when susanoo was destroyed , the bijuu chakra was gone .
03 - Tsunade took 5 susanoo swords to the guts , yasaka magatama , super Shinra Tensei , and was cut in half by madara , and after all of this she survived , all while being low on chakra , and even then she was still able to summon katsuyu and heal the kages .
Zetsu arm matched Madara's body because zetsu are made of Hshirama's cells , which madara's body has it .
04 - Sasuke wins this match low diff .

 

[LoZelda101]

Is it possible to genjutsu someone that is already under a genjutsu? Because Kurama will already be under Madara's genjutsu. As for CT, since Kurama is under Madara's genjutsu he can be controlled to fire off a bijuu bomb at its core yes?

You say the bijuu aren't needed at the end of your post but iirc, despite Sasuke absorbing the bijuu's chakra, he was only able to fire off 1 Indra arrow and was more or less exhausted after that?

Amenotejikara blitz and a sword to Hashirama and he's dead? Just like that? Iirc, didn't Madara say Tsunade's byakugou healing was inferior to Hashirama's? A fact Tsunade herself attested to?

Sasuke probably wins...but I doubt it'll be low diff or a stomp as you're trying to imply.

Yes you can. Uchiha bros use gen to get out of kabutos gen.

 

[Omar19992010]

Rinnegan Genjutsu and Planetary devastation take out Kurama.

Hashirama and Madara are blitzed by Amenotejikara and get taken out.

 

[Kyle storm]

lol at Hashirama being slower when he was crossing mountains outrunning Eso Susanoo

OT:Sasuke takes it handily

We didn't say he's slow , we said he's the slowest guy here by feats .

 

[Kyle storm]

lol at Hashirama being slower when he was crossing mountains outrunning Eso Susanoo

OT:Sasuke takes it handily

We didn't say he's slow , we said he's the slowest guy here by feats .

 

[ARGUS]

Indras arrow one shots

 

[Kyle storm]

Rinnegan Genjutsu and Planetary devastation take out Kurama.

Hashirama and Madara are blitzed by Amenotejikara and get taken out.

Exactly , thank you .