Yes Naruto isn't exactly the super genius type, but he's definitely shown in the Manga that he's not a talent-less chump forever. This dumb ass Obito fodder couldn't even fight a single guy until he unlocked his Sharingan, and you expect me to believe that Naruto, a loser like Obito, wouldn't have the skills to use the Sharingan?
He is unexpected and thinks out of the box. He thinks differently. He is more creative than Sasuke. Sasuke is intelligent and logical.
Think Neji vs Naruto. He has always been more creative and it went to 100 with Pain fight. And even further against Kaguya. All the ninjutsu in the world coundnt save Naruto, he had to think out of the box to hold Kaguya at bay. And he does this effortlessly by second nature.
He has enough chakra and emotion to develop the sharingan greatly. He also has plenty of skill doing what he specializes in. Why would he have instant skill with doujutsu if he never had one?
You cant say Naruto has no skill when his skill outclasses many ninja.
Not really. Naruto shows his creativity in the way he fights, his unpredictable nature, and unconventional way of thinking. Sasukes ninjutsu mastery is moreso intelligence ergo "Genius"
If Naruto got Sharingan it would mess up his whole fighting style. Part of his nature is to try something out of the box no garrauntee of success but his willpower,skill, and tricky strategies. Sharingan gives a clear path to follow and can make you quite rigid forcing you to "see" only the logical points of view.
Thats why Indra, Madara, Sasuke, and Obito go down a singular path using power to get to a known future. They cant accept the unknown out of fear they will fail. They dont take risks.
Whichever path is better is up to you to decide. But its quite obvious you need a balance. Just my thoughts on this.
TSB only requires chakra control not creativity, and anyone can use summoning jutsu. The most creative people invent new techniques and improve jutsu they learned which Naruto has never done. He always sticks to Rasengan variants and shadow clone when his potential gives him the ability to do so much more.
TSB only requires chakra control not creativity, and anyone can use summoning jutsu. The most creative people invent new techniques and improve jutsu they learned which Naruto has never done. He always sticks to Rasengan variants and shadow clone when his potential gives him the ability to do so much more.
*masters senjutsu and becomes a perfect jinchuriki, creates his own S-class jutsu, masters an A-class as a genin and masters a B-class before graduating the academy*
Naruto is a talentless loser tf you mean lmao he can't do anything
He is unexpected and thinks out of the box. He thinks differently. He is more creative than Sasuke. Sasuke is intelligent and logical.
Think Neji vs Naruto. He has always been more creative and it went to 100 with Pain fight. And even further against Kaguya. All the ninjutsu in the world coundnt save Naruto, he had to think out of the box to hold Kaguya at bay. And he does this effortlessly by second nature.
He has enough chakra and emotion to develop the sharingan greatly. He also has plenty of skill doing what he specializes in. Why would he have instant skill with doujutsu if he never had one?
You cant say Naruto has no skill when his skill outclasses many ninja.
Smh. Look at Sasuke Technique variation compared to Naruto's. All of Naruto's attacks are rasengan copies or different versions of the rasengan. That isn't creativity.
Yes Naruto brought out the element of suprise against Neji in the END but that is something sasuke does constantly in his battles. The creativity in the Sasuke Vs Deidara fight against the Naruto vs Pein fight was a close call. That was probably the only fight Naruto every untilized his entire arsenal in various strategies but it doesn't topple what Sasuke did against Deidara, figuring out his how jutsu works and ways and means to counter it on the spot as opposed to Naruto who was fed all the info by Katsuyu. So the time naruto was most creative was actually because he was fed intel on his opponent during the match.
Lol he didn't think out of the box to keep kaguya at bay. Bruh are you seriously saying that Naruto thinking to use the Sexy Jutsu on Kaguya was him being creative? Come on..
Please stop. Naruto doesn't have the emotion necessary to develop the Sharingan. Dude..he forgave the guy that killed his parents, close friends, childhood and was going to take over the world. Naruto is too soft to develop a Sharingan..again don't try to mix him up with Hashirama who would KILL if necessary. Naruto cannot do that. I'm not saying he would have instant skill but I am saying he doesn't have and the skill necessary to master something like the Sharingan.
I was expecting you'd say that.
Those were all derived from the chidori, then same could be said about Naruto's rasengan variations. And Hagoromo's feat was no invention, Sasuke was only able to do it because of his rinnegan.Naruto improved his Rasengan to the highest level possible and talking of Hagoromo level feats then Naruto was able to create Hagoromo's seal and gain KCM, he found a way to use SM without fusing with Maa and Paa.
Most of Sasuke's abilities comes from his Sharingan and Rinnegan plus they help him to copy and understand other jutsu and still he loses to Naruto with just his Rasengan variations....
Yes Naruto isn't exactly the super genius type, but he's definitely shown in the Manga that he's not a talent-less chump forever. This dumb ass Obito fodder couldn't even fight a single guy until he unlocked his Sharingan, and you expect me to believe that Naruto, a loser like Obito, wouldn't have the skills to use the Sharingan?
Obito didn't master the Sharingan. Obito unlocked MS because of his childhood situation and used his MS ability to manuver his way around battles. That's not skill. That's like Sasuke only spamming Ameno until he has the opportunity to cease the opponent. Naruto may not be talentless but he isn't that talented.
*masters senjutsu and becomes a perfect jinchuriki, creates his own S-class jutsu, masters an A-class as a genin and masters a B-class before graduating the academy*
Naruto is a talentless loser tf you mean lmao he can't do anything
None of that means he has the skill to master the sharingan. Can you honestly see naruto using Pre-cog to determine when to strike when this dumbass was throwing rasengan's at an opponent who he was just told absorbs Ninjutsu?
Naruto would wreck with sharingan, his sage mode taijutsu alone combined with sharingan precog trumps anything ms sauce can offer besides ama and susanoo, could you imagine taking on 3 sm Naruto clones each with 3 tomoe sharingan? It's hard enough to dispel his clones as is but give them all kyuubi mode and a sharingan and even if he doesn't unlock any ms abilities the enhanced perception combined with immense chakra lvl's makes him broken. Kishi never gave him a dojutsu for a reason, he's broken as he has no real weaknesses at that point.
No they weren't, chidori is a stabbing technique, raiton blade is meant to act as a sword from long range while Kirin is the manipulation of natural lightning, all very different jutsu using the same element, in contrast the only wind technique Naruto uses is RS. See the difference?
then same could be said about Naruto's rasengan variations.
Nope, Naruto invented FRS after being told by Kakashi to apply wind to his Rasengan. Once he learned FRS he didn't develop anything new. Bijuu dama is literally a bijuu version of Rasengan while TSB aren't even made by him consciously, they just automatically appear.
And Hagoromo's feat was no invention, Sasuke was only able to do it because of his rinnegan.
I never said it was an invention, Sasuke reproduced Hagoromo's feat without anyone teaching him how to use Rikudou jutsu. His creativity is on another level compared to everyone else, Madara was unable to to reproduce his feats despite having extensive knowledge of the Rinnegan.
And Orochimaru was praised as a genius by Konoha yet admitted Sasuke made him look inferior
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Naruto improved his Rasengan to the highest level possible and talking of Hagoromo level feats then Naruto was able to create Hagoromo's seal and gain KCM, he found a way to use SM without fusing with Maa and Paa.
Uzumaki are prodigious with sealing techniques but we're talking about dojutsu here, Naruto doesn't have the natural talent to use dojutsu to its full potential like Sasuke because it requires high IQ.
Most of Sasuke's abilities comes from his Sharingan and Rinnegan plus they help him to copy and understand other jutsu and still he loses to Naruto with just his Rasengan variations....
What does their fight have to do with the discussion ? We're talking about Naruto's ability to use eye powers, he will never have the intelligence required to master the use of eye techniques like Uchiha.
Put him in Sasuke's shoes against Danzo for example, would he have the ability to analyze Izanagi with no intel and counter it ? No he wouldn't. Eye techniques require very high observational skills and intelligence in order to be used a the highest level, spamming jutsu with no plan will only work against low level opponents.
Naruto would wreck with sharingan, his sage mode taijutsu alone combined with sharingan precog trumps anything ms sauce can offer besides ama and susanoo, could you imagine taking on 3 sm Naruto clones each with 3 tomoe sharingan? It's hard enough to dispel his clones as is but give them all kyuubi mode and a sharingan and even if he doesn't unlock any ms abilities the enhanced perception combined with immense chakra lvl's makes him broken. Kishi never gave him a dojutsu for a reason, he's broken as he has no real weaknesses at that point.
No. Here's the difference between Naruto and Sasuke with a sharingan:
1) Naruto is clumsy.
2) Naruto isn't skilled.
3) Naruto doesn't have the emotions necessary to drive the sharingan
4) Naruto could forget he has the Sharingan's advantages:
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Lel and best thing is all 4 FACTS could determine his death in the match. Please stope because MS sauce would still spank a Sharingan SM Naruto. His Taijutsu would be countered besides Frog Kata but that's not happening anyway because Sasuke has Susano'o. Yes I can Imaging 3 SM Naruto's taking on MS Sasuke but it will be 1 after Sasuke burns the other two with Amaterasu which even in SM Naruto does not have the reflexes to dodge. No dude, he'd be far from broken. Kishi Never gave him a doujutsu for the same reason you don't give pearls to swine.
No they weren't, chidori is a stabbing technique, raiton blade is meant to act as a sword from long range while Kirin is the manipulation of natural lightning, all very different jutsu using the same element, in contrast the only wind technique Naruto uses is RS. See the difference?
Nope, Naruto invented FRS after being told by Kakashi to apply wind to his Rasengan. Once he learned FRS he didn't develop anything new. Bijuu dama is literally a bijuu version of Rasengan while TSB aren't even made by him consciously, they just automatically appear.
I never said it was an invention, Sasuke reproduced Hagoromo's feat without anyone teaching him how to use Rikudou jutsu. His creativity is on another level compared to everyone else, Madara was unable to to reproduce his feats despite having extensive knowledge of the Rinnegan.
And Orochimaru was praised as a genius by Konoha yet admitted Sasuke made him look inferior
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Uzumaki are prodigious with sealing techniques but we're talking about dojutsu here, Naruto doesn't have the natural talent to use dojutsu to its full potential like Sasuke because it requires high IQ.
What does their fight have to do with the discussion ? We're talking about Naruto's ability to use eye powers, he will never have the intelligence required to master the use of eye techniques like Uchiha.
Put him in Sasuke's shoes against Danzo for example, would he have the ability to analyze Izanagi with no intel and counter it ? No he wouldn't. Eye techniques require very high observational skills and intelligence in order to be used a the highest level, spamming jutsu with no plan will only work against low level opponents.
If anything is on another level then its your fanboyism. I am not gonna bother countering you cuz I've already made my point and if you don't get it then so be it.
And about Sasuke being praised by Orochimaru, then Naruto has been praised far more throughout the manga than Sasuke and about Naruto handling a doujutsu, with Naruto's immense chakra and level of chakra control he can use it far better than Sasuke. Nagato an Uzumaki controlled two rinnegan easily whereas Obito an uchiha with Hashi cells couldn't handle two Rinnegan and had to settle with just one. To think that Naruto with his insane amount of powerful chakra combined with rikudou chakra can't use Rinnegan or any other doujutsu efficiently only shows your butthurt over Naruto's superirority over you fav lol....
No. Here's the difference between Naruto and Sasuke with a sharingan:
1) Naruto is clumsy.
2) Naruto isn't skilled.
3) Naruto doesn't have the emotions necessary to drive the sharingan
4) Naruto could forget he has the Sharingan's advantages:
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Lel and best thing is all 4 FACTS could determine his death in the match. Please stope because MS sauce would still spank a Sharingan SM Naruto. His Taijutsu would be countered besides Frog Kata but that's not happening anyway because Sasuke has Susano'o. Yes I can Imaging 3 SM Naruto's taking on MS Sasuke but it will be 1 after Sasuke burns the other two with Amaterasu which even in SM Naruto does not have the reflexes to dodge. No dude, he'd be far from broken. Kishi Never gave him a doujutsu for the same reason you don't give pearls to swine.
No you're just downplaying and hating but with the name sasukesixpack it's no surprise that everything you type about naruto is seethed in bias and utter dog crap. Naruto is clumsy for comic relief but he's shown more than enough skill to fight competently and hold his own in plenty of fights, I never saw him trip when he was fighting pein nor did any of his clones trip while saving everyone's ass in the war.
Your scans mean nothing since the second sharingan is active it's nothing but a ninja heads up display, how can you forget when you see the afterimages of enemies right before your eyes? Naruto not having emotions to drive sharingan is just stupid, all it basically takes is getting angry or distressed and boom a tomoe is unlocked, Sarada unlocked hers just talking about daddy issues, Naruto had those all his life it's not even a question of if Naruto could unlock it but when.
Naruto already fought head 2 head with sasuke without a sharingan so giving him one just puts the ball in his court, all his clones get the same benefits so it's obvious as to why Naruto and Hashirama never got a dojutsu despite Madara and sasuke getting the benefits of Hashirama and Naruto. And kyuubi mode Naruto doesn't even need to dodge ama since he can just shrug it off with his cloak. All Naruto needs to do is survive ms sasuke for like 10 minutes which can be done easily and he either runs out of chakra or goes blind.
Your argument was shot the second Indra brought up the fact that obito went from fodder to OP with the unlocking of his sharingan, you're retarded if you think Naruto can't make use of sharingan.
If anything is on another level then its your fanboyism. I am not gonna bother countering you cuz I've already made my point and if you don't get it then so be it.
And about Sasuke being praised by Orochimaru, then Naruto has been praised far more throughout the manga than Sasuke and about Naruto handling a doujutsu, with Naruto's immense chakra and level of chakra control he can use it far better than Sasuke. Nagato an Uzumaki controlled two rinnegan easily whereas Obito an uchiha with Hashi cells couldn't handle two Rinnegan and had to settle with just one. To think that Naruto with his insane amount of powerful chakra combined with rikudou chakra can't use Rinnegan or any other doujutsu efficiently only shows your butthurt over Naruto's superirority over you fav lol....
Your denial is really pathetic sometimes, how many times has the manga stated Sasuke was the one with the superior brains ? Eye power and brain power are synonymous like body power and stamina.
Claiming Naruto can use dojutsu as good as Sasuke is like claiming Sasuke can use RSM as good as Naruto. Nagato spent his whole life mastering Rinnegan and it only took Sasuke less than a day to shit on his feats U_U