Stop making fanfiction about Madaras MS

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Why are people making fanfic about Madaras MS ability and saying it's Perfect Susanoo? :wut: Susanoo is a technique a Uchiha can use once they unlock their two mangekyou abilities.

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So stop saying MAdaras MS abilities was susanoo related only. Kishi nerfed Madara because if he had anymore abilities he would be too OP much like every other main Uchiha in the series. Deal with it.
 

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MS Madara never had a perfect Susanoo. That is not one of any Uchiha's abilities.

Who knows? Madara never relied on his MS or EMS much. He just used genjutsu with it. he just liked to play out with his Susanoo much like Sasuke likes to spam Enton. It is only reasonable to theorize what Madara has based on what he likes to "dance" in the battlefield.
 
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But his Susano was too op, it was like 10 times the size of the other Susanoes shown in the series.
Madara's Susano > Sasuke + Itachi's+ Obito at least in size
Madara's Genjitsu = Itachi's > Sasuke
Madara's Fireballs > All other Uchihas
I agree with the fire jutsu but the rest of what you said is just wrong.
MS Madara never had a perfect Susanoo. That is not one of any Uchiha's abilities.

Who knows? Madara never relied on his MS or EMS much. He just used genjutsu with it. he just liked to play out with his Susanoo much like Sasuke likes to spam Enton. I is only reasonable to theroize what Madara has based on what he likes to "dance" in the battlefield.
ITs possible he had Ama because he's indra transmigrant but we could only guess. Maybe his ability wasn't worth using over the techs he had as an edo. Not to mention rinnegan powers.
 

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I agree with the fire jutsu but the rest of what you said is just wrong.


ITs possible he had Ama because he's indra transmigrant but we could only guess. Maybe his ability wasn't worth using over the techs he had as an edo. Not to mention rinnegan powers.
Yeah but then again not all Indra transmigrant are guaranteed the same abilities. The logic isn't if you have two MS abilities you get the Susanoo anymore. That was old and debunked when Madara arrived and never showed his other MS abilties.

His power resides with Rinnegan and Taijutsu so he probably didn't care to use his other abilties. I don't see why you are frustrated though. You are a Madara fan aren't you? What's so bad about having abilties Susanoo related. If he had some of those he could euqip it even further. It might not be as unique as Itachi's but it is still one of the most powerful Susanoo after Sasuke's and Kakashi's.
 

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Yeah but then again not all Indra transmigrant are guaranteed the same abilities. The logic isn't if you have two MS abilities you get the Susanoo anymore. That was old and debunked when Madara arrived and never showed his other MS abilties.

His power resides with Rinnegan and Taijutsu so he probably didn't care to use his other abilties. I don't see why you are frustrated though. You are a Madara fan aren't you? What's so bad about having abilties Susanoo related. If he had some of those he could euqip it even further. It might not be as unique as Itachi's but it is still one of the most powerful Susanoo after Sasuke's and Kakashi's.
Sasuke, Obito and ITachi proved you wrong. ONce both eye powers are unlocked you get Susanoo. Madara not showing his abilties is simply because the author couldn't risk having his villian too strong since MS powers are usually haxxed. Im a Madara fan but thats limiting his potiential not expanding it.
 

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Sasuke, Obito and ITachi proved you wrong. ONce both eye powers are unlocked you get Susanoo. Madara not showing his abilties is simply because the author couldn't risk having his villian too strong since MS powers are usually haxxed. Im a Madara fan but thats limiting his potiential not expanding it.
Usually it takes just 1 example to prove something that was stated originally wrong. For example Databook stated Temari blows the universe away, was this the case? Her Wind Scythe jutsu is inferior to KCM Naruto's FRS. Obito never had two MS abilities, he just had 1 but for him it was like with the power of both eyes, not two abilities, there is a slight difference. Obito said that with his and Kakashi's eye together they will be able to reveal the true power of their MS which later caused Kakashi to have his PS as well. It wasn't two abilities that caused the third one to become a Susanoo.

Madara's potential was expanded through his Rinnegan and Taijutsu skills not so much on Genjutsu. Madara was already haxxed as it was, he was growing in power as each chapter progressed. I don't see how one ability would limit his potential so much. Maybe if you are like Obito and had nothing and were suddenly gifted with Kamui would it make a difference but Madara was on a different level than Obito and even Sasuke as a kid.

His MS ability might have been taken away but he was gifted with a haxx Rinnegan ability. Limbo GG. It all balances out.
 

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or may be spamming MS techniques too much is what lead to his blindness in the past which may have caused a trauma and so he stopped using them even after he got EMS as he can summon kurama and Perfect susanoo and to save his chakra reserves as MS techniques takes a lot of chakra.
 

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It is simple that at least one of his ms ability(doesn't matter which eyes) was to differ clone from original wether it was clone made of solid body/water/wood or whatever, quite hax.

However issue is with other ability... which until I see someone using limbo shadow I assume is just powerfull invisible clone who can only get harmed with senjutsu(no rsm), and Hashirama's sage mode is perfect counter. Possibly enhancing his Susanoo or ability to make Susanoo use hand signs is unique to him, but it should be more due to EMS just like Sasuke got Enton with EMS and before had Amaterasu already.

I have done some of them so hopefully they could right.

Summary:

Left eye: seeing through clones and differ from original
Right eye: manipulation of Sussano/Sussano's clones/Sussano's making handseals or freezing time from mere second
 
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Usually it takes just 1 example to prove something that was stated originally wrong. For example Databook stated Temari blows the universe away, was this the case? Her Wind Scythe jutsu is inferior to KCM Naruto's FRS. Obito never had two MS abilities, he just had 1 but for him it was like with the power of both eyes, not two abilities, there is a slight difference. Obito said that with his and Kakashi's eye together they will be able to reveal the true power of their MS which later caused Kakashi to have his PS as well. It wasn't two abilities that caused the third one to become a Susanoo.

Madara's potential was expanded through his Rinnegan and Taijutsu skills not so much on Genjutsu. Madara was already haxxed as it was, he was growing in power as each chapter progressed. I don't see how one ability would limit his potential so much. Maybe if you are like Obito and had nothing and were suddenly gifted with Kamui would it make a difference but Madara was on a different level than Obito and even Sasuke as a kid.

His MS ability might have been taken away but he was gifted with a haxx Rinnegan ability. Limbo GG. It all balances out.
Madara isn't an example to prove your case because basically you're saying Madaras Susanoo is his only MS ability which doesn't make any sense when you look at other Uchihas.
 

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Madara isn't an example to prove your case because basically you're saying Madaras Susanoo is his only MS ability which doesn't make any sense when you look at other Uchihas.
Obito has only one(ability), he is an MS user, Shisui has only one(ability) he is an MS user. How does it not make sense again? Like I said that part had been debunked by later events especially where Kakashi got his Susanoo powered up by that Rikudo chakra.
 

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Usually it takes just 1 example to prove something that was stated originally wrong. For example Databook stated Temari blows the universe away, was this the case? Her Wind Scythe jutsu is inferior to KCM Naruto's FRS. Obito never had two MS abilities, he just had 1 but for him it was like with the power of both eyes, not two abilities, there is a slight difference. Obito said that with his and Kakashi's eye together they will be able to reveal the true power of their MS which later caused Kakashi to have his PS as well. It wasn't two abilities that caused the third one to become a Susanoo. Madara's potential was expanded through his Rinnegan and Taijutsu skills not so much on Genjutsu. Madara was already haxxed as it was, he was growing in power as each chapter progressed. I don't see how one ability would limit his potential so much. Maybe if you are like Obito and had nothing and were suddenly gifted with Kamui would it make a difference but Madara was on a different level than Obito and even Sasuke as a kid. His MS ability might have been taken away but he was gifted with a haxx Rinnegan ability. Limbo GG. It all balances out.
stopped reading @ bold...you actually took that stupid hyperbole seriously??
 

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Madaras and sasukes ps came after ems, in sasukes case it wasn't shown until his rikudo power up. The only one to manifest a ps out of an ms in the manga was ass pull kakashi iirc, I personally don't think it's madaras ms ability, I had the same issue in a thread yesterday with ama being someone's ms tech when other ms users can use it
 
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