BSM Naruto vs Nagato

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Guntah

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NARUTO UZUMAKI

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Starts off at Sage Bijuu Mode with full chakra reserves.

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Has full use of his legs and full chakra reserves.

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Naruto wins because he's the mc of a shounen :sdo:
 

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Sasuke vs Nagato would be more interesting. It'd be awesome to see Sasuke wonder over Rinnegan and where it comes from not knowing he can attain it himself.

But anyway my votes on Naruto.
 

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BSM Naruto because he have Kurama's avatar.
 

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Nagato's strongest tech failed against 8 tails Kurama, he gets shit on against BSM Naruto.
 

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bsm naruto is that level right below rinnegan or rsm. Nagato is just not up there on that level.
 
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BSM naruto easily, kmc vs nagato would better.
 

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Well, he was only using a path then. Naruto himself stated that Nagato was multiple times stronger while using the techniques in his own body.

Doesn't make a different, no jutsu Nagato has will work against BSM Naruto.
 

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Doesn't make a different, no jutsu Nagato has will work against BSM Naruto.

Human path would, though yeah, I can see how getting close to use it would be problematic for him.
 
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Human path would, though yeah, I can see how getting close to use it would be problematic for him.

I don't get why everyone forgets about human path. Forget chibaku tensei, randomly calling it the strongest jutsu of Nagato's, human path is the real deal. Since it appears to drain power.

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As it apparently takes "power" to the point where KCM Naruto can't overpower Nagato (he should be able to), I think that's a real threat. I think Nagato could win if he can grab Naruto which shouldn't be hard, but this is Naruto with SM as well. That means he will be able to sense the invisible animal summon this time around. I feel like if grabbed, he wouldn't have many options to get out of it since Nagato has all of the paths in him. He can negate with deva path or absorb with preta (obviously not too much SM chakra). What about the soul-stealing instant-death jutsu Nagato used against Hanzo?

I think that the odds are in Naruto's favor overall because he has speed and awesome sensory in this form, not to mention a Kurama avatar and by extension, the bijuu bomb. He will for sure be able to get out of CT if Nagato has not learned from his past mistake and does not "just make it bigger" like he stated he could previously. I do however believe Nagato is a greater threat than some will have you believe. Answers shouldn't come down to "can he break out of CT" because that's not all that's in his arsenal.
 
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I wrote a response with a manga panel to support what I said, but I guess I'm not allowed to post scans because now a moderator has to approve it before it's posted?

Basically this is what I said:

It's amazing how many people completely forget about the human path, arguable one of the strongest rinnegan techniques. Human path is dangerous because it takes away your "power" so much so that KCM Naruto couldn't overpower Nagato even though he should be able to.



Because of this, I think that Naruto would have a hard time getting out of the grab before his soul is ripped from him since Nagato has all paths in this form. Nagato could create multiple arms to hold him down more effectively, or the armored tentacles he used to hold down Bee, use deva (or preta) path to negate any close range jutsu, and use the animal path to hold him (only once grabbed) if needed. Since Naruto would have to focus on not getting his soul sucked out, he wouldn't be able to focus on much else in my opinion.

On to CT; why does everyone see a rinnegan user, ask themselves if they can get out of CT, and think that's all there is to it? It's not like CT is all Nagato has in his arsenal. I believe Naruto can get out of it as long as Nagato does not learn from his previously made mistake of making it too small. Once, the 8 tailed Naruto broke it, his solution was just to "enlarge it."



He seemed somewhat confident.

On to Naruto, I believe him having bijuu mode and sage mode this time around really help him out. He shouldn't be getting caught by animal path's surprise invisible attacks because he has awesome sensory abilities in this form. He also has more speed, a 9-tailed Kurama avatar, and by extension, the bijuu bomb. Since we don't know for a fact that making a CT larger would stop Kurama, I can't say with certainty it would stop him, so I give Naruto the benefit of the doubt here. Naruto being in SM also prevents Nagato from absorbing too much of his chakra at once so he can't just drain him.

Overall, I give the victory to Naruto as odds do favor him in my opinion, but Nagato should not be taken lightly either. He could really damage Naruto if he catches him.
 
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Ugh, I wrote a response with a manga panel to support what I said, but I guess I'm not allowed to post scans because now a moderator has to approve it?

Basically this is what I said:

It's amazing how many people completely forget about the human path, arguably one of the strongest rinnegan techniques. Human path is dangerous because it takes away your "power" so much so that KCM Naruto couldn't overpower Nagato even though he should be able to.

Chaper 551, pg. 4

Because of this, I think that Naruto would have a hard time getting out of the grab before his soul is ripped from him since Nagato has all paths in this form. Nagato could create multiple arms to hold him down more effectively, or the armored tentacles he used to hold down Bee, use deva (or preta) path to negate any close range jutsu, and use the animal path to hold him (only once grabbed) if needed. Since Naruto would have to focus on not getting his soul sucked out, he wouldn't be able to focus on much else in my opinion.

On to CT; why does everyone see a rinnegan user, ask themselves if they can get out of CT, and think that's all there is to it? It's not like CT is all Nagato has in his arsenal. I believe Naruto can get out of it as long as Nagato does not learn from his previously made mistake of making it too small. Once, the 8 tailed Naruto broke it, his solution was just to "enlarge it."

Chapter 440, pg. 3

He seemed somewhat confident.

On to Naruto, I believe him having bijuu mode and sage mode this time around really help him out. He shouldn't be getting caught by animal path's surprise invisible attacks because he has awesome sensory abilities in this form. He also has more speed, a 9-tailed Kurama avatar, and by extension, the bijuu bomb. Since we don't know for a fact that making a CT larger would stop Kurama, I can't say with certainty it would stop him, so I give Naruto the benefit of the doubt here. Naruto being in SM also prevents Nagato from absorbing too much of his chakra at once so he can't just drain him.

Overall, I give the victory to Naruto as odds do favor him in my opinion, but Nagato should not be taken lightly either. He could really damage Naruto if he catches him.
 

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Nagato is underestimated as always.

Having watched Boruto: Naruto Movie, it's safe to conclude Biju powers are useless against Rinnegan users. Preta Path was canonically shown to have absorbed TBB, Naruto's most powerful Jutsu, which is not a surprise when the said Jutsu has shown to absorb physical and techniques carrying life-force. Naruto's whole arsenal consists of Chakra-based attacks, that will only recharge Preta Path over and over. I know Naruto's supporters will come with the Senjutsu Chakra fallacy, which I might as well address too.

Senjutsu's foundation is Spiritual energy + Physical energy + Natural energy = Senjutsu. This is the formula for it. Here is a diagram:

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For Nagato to actually turn to a stone, he must overload Senjutsu Chakra over his own, which is impossible to do so from absorbing Naruto's techniques. The foundation of Preta Path states that after the Chakra is absorbed, the said Chakra becomes the user's Chakra. This means Senjutsu Chakra is reverted back to Nagato's natural Chakra. The only way for him to turn to stone is to absorb Chakra directly from Naruto and the said Chakra must overload his own. Absorbing Naruto's techniques won't do such thing, because of the reason above but also because of Nagato's gigantic Chakra reserves.

Moving on...Nagato is a Rinnegan wielder and possess the Outer Path; hereby can suppress Naruto's own power with Chakra Chains. [ ] Naruto would be held down pretty easily if he uses BM. Kushina's inferior chains held Kurama, so Nagato's superior chains would do just better. The black rods can pierce Naruto's Chakra points, thus the latter can't create Chakra. [ ] It worked on Hashirama who is to have comparable reserves to Naruto. [ ]

This is a basic example of Nagato's versatility which are Naruto's weaknesses. I have yet to mention the paths, but that should do.

Nagato wins high difficulty.
 
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