Strongest Mangekyo Sharingan

[Mikeuhsomething36]

sand can protect user from Kamui.... interesting :lol

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Kumai needs to focus on a target within their line is vision otherwise they end up warping the wrong thing. If someone used substitution jutsu with wood. Does kumai warp the wood or the person. Likewise how does kumai warp gaara if the person using it sees nothing but sand. With that logic I can say that if I built a stone fortress around mysekf kumai will warp me bypassing the fortress walls entireky despite me not being in their line if sight. If you're going to hype an ability at least learn it's limitation first

 

[lndra]

Kamui is the most versatile MS Sharingan ability, so I'll go with that one.

Obito was sort of nerfed from day one due to him not having both of his eyes. So there's that too.

 

[90sKids98]

Totsuka blade can "Cut down any enemy" according to Masashi.

I don't think "Any" is exclusive to anyone.

But then again I could be wrong until we see him fight a super fast opponent.

And do you take everything literally? If that were the case Naruto should have brought Sasuke back to the Leaf since he said he will
Double MS Obito stomps Itachi just suck it up

I think Kamui Raikiri might just be faster than normal Chidori.

Lol where in the manga does it say that? But anyways Sasuke should have been able to since Chidori isn't just a direct attack. Since Raikiri is just a direct attack that can't be as versatile like Sasuke's, Kaguya should have been able to dodge it right? But she didn't, and she dodged Chidori, sooo

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Kamui is the most versatile MS Sharingan ability, so I'll go with that one.

Obito was sort of nerfed from day one due to him not having both of his eyes. So there's that too.

Doesn't it have the same weakness even with both MS? You're still tangible while attacking.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Itachi never caught anyone off Guard, Nagato is one of the best sensory Ninja, like Naruto. He seen it coming but he couldn't react to it. And he was restored to full speed/strength by Absorbing the chakra from the 8 and 9 tails So Immobility is no excuse.

Nagato absorbing both 8 and 9 Tails Chakra:

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Nagato sensory skill:

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you are a freaking liar...**** you and your overrated wank of itachi

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[ItachiDaSoloKing]

And do you take everything literally? If that were the case Naruto should have brought Sasuke back to the Leaf since he said he will
Double MS Obito stomps Itachi just suck it up

Why wouldn't I take it literally? He stated that Literally 3 or 4 times.

Their is no way past Yata Mirror, and Totsuka will cut/seal any enemy.

I could see if only 1 sentences supported that but multiple times in the Manga, DataBook, and Anime he states that.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

you are a freaking liar...**** you and your overrated wank of itachi

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This was when Nagato's body was restored right? So you are right, Nagato was still immobile even while restored. That's all I wanted was evidence. Thanks.

 

[lndra]

Doesn't it have the same weakness even with both MS? You're still tangible while attacking.

I think with both MS Sharingan's he can use the Kamui warp faster, or at least that's how it was portrayed when both Kakashi and Obito used it conjunction.

 

[SenseiSama]

1. Indra (logically)

2. Sasuke (only JuubiJins and Kaguya can counter his jutsu)

3. Itachi (anyone without Indra's power can't stop Tsukuyomi)

4. Obito (strong but anyone with intel can easily counter)

5. Madara

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I think with both MS Sharingan's he can use the Kamui warp faster, or at least that's how it was portrayed when both Kakashi and Obito used it conjunction.

Yeah it's double speed. But I was wondering if that helps to negate its weakness at all? I would imagine it does a little.

 

[90sKids98]

1. Obito

2. Indra

3. Sasuke

4. Itachi

4. Madara

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[Tantalus Thief]

Kamui is strong but it is overrated. Minato, Tobirama, Gai, Naruto, and Kakashi all know how to counter it. And Obito stated that even with Kamui Itachi would defeat him.

but Itachi isn't beating DMS Obito. I don't think Obito thought Itachi would actually defeat him. Obito alone was handling 3 kage level ninjas (Kakashi also had the perfect jutsu to counter Kamui which is Kamui). Itachi has no feat that compares to that. He was concerned that Itachi could possibly leak inormation which can lead to his doom. Besides sometimes character say one thing but feats contradict it. For example Kabuto said Old Hiruzen was the strongest of the gokage but I doubt he can beat Onoki/Gaara/Ay.

 

[SenseiSama]

Fixed ^_^

Kamui snipe is no different to Amaterasu, if the user knows the jutsu is being used it gets dodged. And Obito's eyes were only powerful because he had Ashura cells which were not his natural power, without them Kamui is severely restricted.

Furthermore, Obito has no counter to Tsukuyomi which puts Itachi above him and Indra is the progenitor of Sharingan, logically his eyes shit on all Uchiha

 

[lndra]

Yeah it's double speed. But I was wondering if that helps to negate its weakness at all? I would imagine it does a little.

I mean there's no real way to tell. It would be cool if Obito could warp people with one eye, while warping his body at the same time. But there's no real proof.

I mean with double the warping speed, it shouldn't matter that much. He could switch between eye abilities rather fast, plus Obito already has a good way of fighting with a single eye. Having both just makes it a GG.

What's sad is that we never got to see him use Susano'o.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

but Itachi isn't beating DMS Obito. I don't think Obito thought Itachi would actually defeat him. Obito alone was handling 3 kage level ninjas (Kakashi also had the perfect jutsu to counter Kamui which is Kamui). Itachi has no feat that compares to that. He was concerned that Itachi could possibly leak inormation which can lead to his doom. Besides sometimes character say one thing but feats contradict it. For example Kabuto said Old Hiruzen was the strongest of the gokage but I doubt he can beat Onoki/Gaara/Ay.

Don't forget Obito had the Biju helping him. You thinking that Obito didn't think Itachi could beat him is irrelevant because he stated 3 separate times that Itachi could beat him. So Obito knows already that Itachi can counter Kamui, like how Kakashi and Minato did.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I mean there's no real way to tell. It would be cool if Obito could warp people with one eye, while warping his body at the same time. But there's no real proof.

I mean with double the warping speed, it shouldn't matter that much. He could switch between eye abilities rather fast, plus Obito already has a good way of fighting with a single eye. Having both just makes it a GG.

What's sad is that we never got to see him use Susano'o.

That would be so broken if he could do that lol. I wish Kishi would have gave more details on his DMS. Kakashi got instant God level from it.

 

[90sKids98]

Kamui snipe is no different to Amaterasu, if the user knows the jutsu is being used it gets dodged. And Obito's eyes were only powerful because he had Ashura cells which were not his natural power, without them Kamui is severely restricted.

Furthermore, Obito has no counter to Tsukuyomi which puts Itachi above him and Indra is the progenitor of Sharingan, logically his eyes shit on all Uchiha

No different than Amaterasu lol suree it is. You really think someone like Obito who knew about Itachi's visual prowess would fall to his Tsukuyomi? Sorry but no, DMS Obito > Itachi

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Because Amaterasu did so much damage to her like Raikiri did right??? No

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

No different than Amaterasu lol suree it is. You really think someone like Obito who knew about Itachi's visual prowess would fall to his Tsukuyomi? Sorry but no, DMS Obito > Itachi

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Because Amaterasu did so much damage to her like Raikiri did right??? No

Amaterasu is has like 4-5 counters/weaknesses where as Kamui only has 1. It's pretty obvious Kamui is way better.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Don't forget Obito had the Biju helping him. You thinking that Obito didn't think Itachi could beat him is irrelevant because he stated 3 separate times that Itachi could beat him. So Obito knows already that Itachi can counter Kamui, like how Kakashi and Minato did.

Kakashi counters Kamui because he has Kamui,which Itachi obviously lacks. Minato counters Kamui because of FTG/his superior speed compared to Itachi and Obito. So do you think Old Hiruzen>onoki because Kabuto a master spy who likely knows all their abilities said so. Look at the feats and not just character's words. Itachi has no offensive counter to Kamui. When Obito took his bijuu back in the Mazo Naruto still couldn't touch him without Kakashi. Again Itachi has no feat to Obito handling 3 kage level ninja.

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Obito pretty much counters everything in Itachi's arsenal.
Susanoo, Yata Mirrior, Totsuka-intangibility. Itachi has no attack that will counter the 5 minute limit of intanglability especially with his stamina..
Genjutsu-breaks out of it. Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi with 3t Obito should have no problem considering he put a Perfect Jin under genjutsu.
Obito is also much faster. Itachi was fighting on par with KCM Naruto clone, while the main KCM Naruto couldn't even touch him.
Obito already canonically countered Amaterasu with Kamui plus it was a suprise amaterasu.
Obio can manhandle Itachi's clones like he did with Naruto's.
Once Obito touches Itachi it's over. Itachi doesn't have FTG to escape.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

I think DMS kakashi might just be faster than sasuke.

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one of them used instant teleportation while the other used shunshin,and guess which one failed.