Tsb. Vs Ice

[Jokule67]

I agree with what you say but I wanna point out the fact Naruto had to use steam release to break the ice kind of proves how dense it was, a small TSB wouldn't have erased everything in an instant like when Obito used it on Minato's kunai



By 'merge' you mean she summoned the ice around them ? Does that mean the ice is made of her chakra ? If that's the case then that would be the reason TSB failed because she uses Senjutsu which is immune to atomization.

All her techs have senjutsu in it. And if Naruto would detonate tsb it would hurt the both of them anyway.

 

[Jokule67]

Naruto was stuck by like one or 2 pieces of ice.. And Kaguya wasn't even at her strongest. :Sparks:

Umm okay. This whole thing is pointless I realy dont see the coorelation of tsb with the ice anyway. Sasukes amaterasu kaguysuchi was perfect.

 

[Jokule67]

Naruto supposedly masters his mode without even trying. Besides, I think he should be able to for matter (not Onmyoudon though), but there's no evidence for it.

No evidence against it neither same as Sasuke path usage. Naruto has RSM and has rven detonated the spheres ready as well as did shape manipulation with them.

 

[Icelerate]

I win.

 

[Holy God]

By 'merge' you mean she summoned the ice around them ? Does that mean the ice is made of her chakra ? If that's the case then that would be the reason TSB failed because she uses Senjutsu which is immune to atomization.

No, the ice was already there. I mean merge as in since they were teleported into the ice, they only displaced what their bodies and accessories touched by atom, thus the ice was closer than mere touching (

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). They literally had zero room to contract their muscles outward and thus zero velocity to even think about moving with mere strength alone.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I didn't mean to imply different levels of erasing, only that Naruto couldn't do it. Ice is also less dense than rock though and Naruto otherwise hasn't proved he had Onmyoudon.

kishimoto proved it...try re-reading page 226 of databook 4...where he outright states that naruto used yin-yang release...a little research is not the hardest thing in the world

 

[Holy God]

kishimoto proved it

I hope you're not referring to the collision with Sasuke's arrows.

 

[SenseiSama]

No, the ice was already there. I mean merge as in since they were teleported into the ice, they only displaced what their bodies and accessories touched by atom, thus the ice was closer than mere touching (

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That's what I was saying when I made the example of being stuck in a block of concrete, they were trapped in it like a seed in a fruit

p.s : Naruto can use Onmyoudon because he's already shown to use Yin-Yang jutsu

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I hope you're not referring to the collision with Sasuke's arrows.

no...I am referring to page 226 of databook 4:

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[Holy God]

no...I am referring to page 226 of databook 4:

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Applying it to Truth-Seeking Spheres is different than what he did that may have only been possible with the seal.

 

[Holy God]

That's what I was saying when I made the example of being stuck in a block of concrete, they were trapped in it like a seed in a fruit

Yes, but you applied it to the Truth-Seeking Sphere when it doesn't need room in order to have an effect.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Applying it to Truth-Seeking Spheres is different than what he did that may have only been possible with the seal.

you must be joking...since when did the YANG SEAL possess both the powers of yin and yang simultaneously?

 

[Holy God]

you must be joking...since when did the YANG SEAL possess both the powers of yin and yang simultaneously?

I wouldn't know and neither would you. Are those names even official?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I wouldn't know and neither would you. Are those names even official?

yes I would...because unlike you I've read the manga

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[King Of Pop]

tsb was stuck but kagusutchi tore through the ice like butter, dat kagusuchi. even kaguya didnt want to port to the ice dimension again because of amaterasu. dat amaterasu.

 

[Holy God]

yes I would...because unlike you I've read the manga

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Yet this does not prove he can use Yin-Yang Style to erase chakra.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Yet this does not prove he can use Yin-Yang Style to erase chakra.

but it proves he can use yin-yang style in general...he can do whatever he wants with it...erasing chakra is child's play to someone who has a universal understanding of it (according to kishimoto)...stop playing the denial game...for example if sasuke has rinnegan I am sure he could use the asura path if he wanted to

 

[Angelic.]

First time I read that chapter I thought for a second that he was pulling them but why would he lol

Ice gg

 

[Holy God]

but it proves he can use yin-yang style in general...he can do whatever he wants with it...erasing chakra is child's play to someone who has a universal understanding of it (according to kishimoto)...stop playing the denial game...for example if sasuke has rinnegan I am sure he could use the asura path if he wanted to

Perhaps he could learn to do it, but he doesn't know how as far as we know. Just like not all people with Wind Style can use Rasenshuriken.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Perhaps he could learn to do it, but he doesn't know how as far as we know. Just like not all people with Wind Style can use Rasenshuriken.

that is a stupid example...it's not like there are steps one must take to master yin-yang style...naruto freaking did it UNCONSCIOUSLY and didn't even know how to explain what he did...the 2 situations are completely different...truth seeking balls are automatically embedded with the power of all 5 elements and yin-yang...try cracking open the fourth databook once in a while