Tsb. Vs Ice

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So these nv wankers on Google+ are pushing thr notion that black zetsu can manipulate tsb in the panel above XD because tsb couldn't cut through ice faster than fire.
They're also pushing the notion that tsb erase all matter and thr reason it had trouble with ice is because zetsu can control tsb
Now is this cancer or am i downplaying

Because bruh is giving zetsu an ability that isn't even implied and its obvious they were prepping to absorb naruto and sasukes chakra
 

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Black Zetsu cannot manipulate someone else's Truth-Seeking Spheres. Naruto simply hasn't shown concrete proof that he has the ability to erase regular matter like Obito and Madara.
 

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Black Zetsu cannot manipulate someone else's Truth-Seeking Spheres. Naruto simply hasn't shown concrete proof that he has the ability to erase regular matter like Obito and Madara.

Bro they only erase chakra
They can damage matter but no straight up erase
 

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Bro they only erase chakra
They can damage matter but no straight up erase

When Obito expanded his Truth-Seeking Sphere it erased the ground creating a perfect half sphere with no sign of what would have been displaced.
 

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Black Zetsu cannot manipulate someone else's Truth-Seeking Spheres. Naruto simply hasn't shown concrete proof that he has the ability to erase regular matter like Obito and Madara.

There's no such thing as different levels of erasing, Kaguya's ice was dense enough to slow down the TSB's ability to atomize hence why they weren't effective.
 

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There's no such thing as different levels of erasing, Kaguya's ice was dense enough to slow down the TSB's ability to atomize hence why they weren't effective.

I didn't mean to imply different levels of erasing, only that Naruto couldn't do it. Ice is also less dense than rock though and Naruto otherwise hasn't proved he had Onmyoudon.
 

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When Obito expanded his Truth-Seeking Sphere it erased the ground creating a perfect half sphere with no sign of what would have been displaced.

That can be achieved without matter being erased. It can be atomic to sub atomic.
 

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I didn't mean to imply different levels of erasing, only that Naruto couldn't do it. Ice is also less dense than rock though and Naruto otherwise hasn't proved he had Onmyoudon.

Onmyoudon is just the negation of ninjutsu
 

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There's no such thing as different levels of erasing, Kaguya's ice was dense enough to slow down the TSB's ability to atomize hence why they weren't effective.

Exactly. They atomize. They do not destroy matter
 

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I didn't mean to imply different levels of erasing, only that Naruto couldn't do it. Ice is also less dense than rock though and Naruto otherwise hasn't proved he had Onmyoudon.

Onmyoudon only works on ninjutsu, Kaguya's ice was natural ice not an element technique and even if it was jutsu her chakra is Senjutsu which means Onmyoudon wouldn't work.

Naruto and Sasuke were trapped in a block of ice which is practically the same as being trapped in a block of cement. If it was less dense than earth Naruto would have been able to break free with his strength.
 
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Onmyoudon only works on ninjutsu, Kaguya's ice was natural ice not an element technique, and Naruto and Sasuke were trapped in a block of ice which is practically the same as being trapped in a block of cement, it's not like Obito who had nothing surrounding his TSB when expanding it.

The ground Obito's Truth-Seeking Sphere contacted was natural as well. Regardless of whether it was surrounded or not, it completely got rid of the rock and would do the same to ice.
 

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The ground Obito's Truth-Seeking Sphere contacted was natural as well. Regardless of whether it was surrounded or not, it completely got rid of the rock and would do the same to ice.

I edited the reply
 

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Only thing that is right is TSB erasing matter since obito's rikudou rod erased Minato's ftg knife. Besides that everything else is wrong.
 

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I didn't mean to imply different levels of erasing, only that Naruto couldn't do it. Ice is also less dense than rock though and Naruto otherwise hasn't proved he had Onmyoudon.

you are forgot that in ice dimension, matter move slower, just a normal logic, the less movement, the colder surround....
 

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I edited the reply

It's a scientific fact that ice is less dense than rock. Naruto and Sasuke were not only surrounded by ice but "merged" with it because of it being a space-time technique, so they had no room to create power (strength x velocity).

By "merged" I meant that everything that wasn't them (matter from the other dimension) would be ice, such as in-between their clothes and such.
 

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Nah ice > TSB as you can see. And those people you speak of they're wrong. :Sparks:
 
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