Age of Ultron [SPOILERS] Anyone else think what TOny did here was reckless

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Spoilers for the movie of course. During AoU Tony and Bruce took Ultron's creation before Ultron could program it's mind. What I find really stupid of Tony/Iron Man was that he immediatley decides to see if he can try to tamper with it and make it on his side. He doesn't even really think about the consequences and even attarcks the other avengers. Does anyone else think Tony Starrk was acting really reckless and to me, he was kinda being out-of-character.
 

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Stark has an ego errbody know that.
 

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Yea sure but he was focused on the idea of creating a super armour cus he was scared of bigger threats out there. Good thread btw I like these discussions.
 

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By now everyone saw AoU so no need for the spoiler warning lol

OT: Tony Stark went nonsense after the first Avengers movie. Non-sencial, hypocritical, depressed, boring. I miss my funny, cool, chill, self-centered playboy millionaire. ._.
 

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By now everyone saw AoU so no need for the spoiler warning lol

OT: Tony Stark went nonsense after the first Avengers movie. Non-sencial, hypocritical, depressed, boring. I miss my funny, cool, chill, self-centered playboy millionaire. ._.

Its pressure being a hero
 

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Yea sure but he was focused on the idea of creating a super armour cus he was scared of bigger threats out there. Good thread btw I like these discussions.

thank you. What I find really dumb is that what Tony tried to do with the body is what created Ultron in the first place :lol, but he clearly throws that out of the window.
By now everyone saw AoU so no need for the spoiler warning lol

OT: Tony Stark went nonsense after the first Avengers movie. Non-sencial, hypocritical, depressed, boring. I miss my funny, cool, chill, self-centered playboy millionaire. ._.
I haven't even see Civil War yet :(
 

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By now everyone saw AoU so no need for the spoiler warning lol

OT: Tony Stark went nonsense after the first Avengers movie. Non-sencial, hypocritical, depressed, boring. I miss my funny, cool, chill, self-centered playboy millionaire. ._.

Its one of the many things i like about the MCU , the characters have development. Shit happened and those things have an aftereffect on people.ie. tony and almost dying.
 

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thank you. What I find really dumb is that what Tony tried to do with the body is what created Ultron in the first place :lol, but he clearly throws that out of the window.

I haven't even see Civil War yet :(

Well AoU has been out for a year now. CW has only stopped its run recently.

Just a tad spoiler, Tony is just as depressed in CW as he is in the previous movies. :sdo:
 

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Its one of the many things i like about the MCU , the characters have development. Shit happened and those things have an aftereffect on people.ie. tony and almost dying.

I get the idea behind it (don't think I don't) but it's just that I think it's a dumb idea. Iron Man's selling point was his ego, narcissism and overall fun chaotic personality. While there is still a slight undertone of that left it's nowhere near as good as it was which makes his character lose a lot of appeal.

I mean, Iron Man 3 tried to actually hide this in its trailers by putting jokes in there, giving the impression that the humour is still there while in reality there were barely any jokes in that movie and those that were in sucked. (Tho I blame the directorial change for this whole shift)

I just don't think the new tone fits the character as he was established and to me he lost all appeal he had. I mean, I'd be somewhat over it had it been executed in a more graceful manner but the way they did it felt totally forced and out of tone. For example, Iron Man 3 (and later movies) were riddled with Tony's traumas caused by the wormhole but in the Avengers there wasn't even a hint of that! The first thing he said after surviving was a joke! Way to fool people into thinking good old Tony is still here. This further supports my theory that the change of tone wasn't an intended shift in tone but merely a side effect of the plague that is Shane Black.

Following movies simply took this and tried to integrate it into continuity to make it more natural while only making things worse for the character as he has now been reduced to a plot device! His weak mental state is only there to drive the following movies on (as if they couldn't find another way).

I mean, had the character stayed the same we wouldn't have Ultron or Civil War (atleast in these circunstances). It's just a thing that bugs me about recebt MCU movies - they're going to pull off a great movie but sacrifice the initial characters' charm to do it which (to me) ultimatively takes away from the overall pleasurable viewing experience.
 

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Yeah i guess it is a bit all over the place , but like you said .If tony stayed the same AoU and CW wouldnt have occured thus no plot.=D
 

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He was brain jacked. Everyone else's fears & visions lasted quite a while. And what Tony wanted (in a more twisted context) and feared were LITERALLY right in front of him as soon as he was brain-jacked.
 

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Yeah i guess it is a bit all over the place , but like you said .If tony stayed the same AoU and CW wouldnt have occured thus no plot.=D

Well, I just hope that he goes back to his old self after the whole saga is over, also...

BRING BACK PEPPER!
 

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Yep. Felt like as if his personality was forced in some way. I want the old Tony back!!
 

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Well you can blame Scarlet Witch for his actions. She drove him to it.
 

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I did notice this and it was awful writing.
 
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