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Let's start by saying that back in the early 90's there has been a conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, because a province prevalently inhabited by Armenians (Nagorno Karabakh) claimed independence from Azerbaijan after the dissolution of USSR.
Armenia defeated Azerbaijan and took control of that region, but war never officially finished, with Azerbaijan still claiming Karabakh as its land.
Thus, border shootings often happen since that cease fire, but they're generally "light" and prevalently without any use of heavy artillery, or at least so it was till April the First in 2016, when Azerbaijan launched a heavy thrust by surprise.

Long story short, this was the heaviest conflict since the cease fire, with dozens of dead soldiers (and civilians) from each side, land conquers and destroyed military means.
What happened after is something ISIS-style. Azeri soldiers took the corpse of an Armenian trooper and decapitated him. This scene ended in the social, but Azeri government denied it happened.
Nonetheless, Azeri president, who was in a tour of the regions near the conflict, awarded the soldiers who posed with the severed head.

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This azeri guy explains that conflict

[video=youtube;pS3P9kk-vFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS3P9kk-vFk[/video]


OT: It is probably something like lets behead this kuffar and celebrate
 

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It happens though...

Indian soldiers were kidnapped, tortured and decapitated during .

Pakistan initially denied that its army was involved in the war. But apparently rewarded the guy:



I suppose it's a war. So ... in the end you just get to live with such incidents and only can hope to limit them.
 

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This azeri guy explains that conflict

[video=youtube;pS3P9kk-vFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS3P9kk-vFk[/video]


OT: It is probably something like lets behead this kuffar and celebrate
I don't have the time to watch a 21 minutes video. I'm actually very interested in the topic though, and I'm not sure if an Azeri isn't biased..
If you want to make a point, please do by writing
 

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It happens though...

Indian soldiers were kidnapped, tortured and decapitated during .

Pakistan initially denied that its army was involved in the war. But apparently rewarded the guy:



I suppose it's a war. So ... in the end you just get to live with such incidents and only can hope to limit them.
Thanks for sharing, I knew about that war, but not about this episode. I still can't see the reason for that, plus, India could invade Pakistan tomorrow if wanted, with Armenia and Azerbaijan it's a bit more "equilibrated"
 

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It happens though...

Indian soldiers were kidnapped, tortured and decapitated during .

Pakistan initially denied that its army was involved in the war. But apparently rewarded the guy:



I suppose it's a war. So ... in the end you just get to live with such incidents and only can hope to limit them.
yes like you said war is war and we hope to limit it... but i think during kargil's war there were gorkhali soldier who were fighting from your side the Indian army too.
 

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Thanks for sharing, I knew about that war, but not about this episode. I still can't see the reason for that, plus, India could invade Pakistan tomorrow if wanted, with Armenia and Azerbaijan it's a bit more "equilateral"
To down the moral of rest of the people?

And nope. India is actually always hesitant to go all out- even during Kargil war it did it's best not to cross the borders at all to give any excuse to the other side. You forget the other major player China that's actually occupying the Pak Occupied Kashmir. The Kashmir they call as " free" on Pakistani side is already a very small area - most of the parts are either assimilated and made part of the other Pakistani states or given to China.

Not to mention USA and Europe who have traditionally backed up Pakistan ( in lieu of letting them keep a foot in the region) and even issued nuclear threats to India on it's behalf. Not to forget today Pakistan itself possesses Nuclear weapons.

So in the end it would be a fight to decide which side has more survivors if any, rather than who wins.

yes like you said war is war and we hope to limit it... but i think during kargil's war there were gorkhali soldier who were fighting from your side the Indian army too.
They probably were.

Ladakhi soldiers scaled that mountain without much food because they preferred to carry bullet instead. Fighting for three days under such a tough conditions and terrain on a few grains of rice they carried- they are the ones I remember most distinctly apart from the first female helicopter pilot who not only dropped supplies to the army at such a tough terrain but picked the injured/dead soldiers all the while dodging the missiles.

We didn't win it back due to technology but sheer will power of our skilled soldiers and their sacrifices.
 
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To down the moral of rest of the people?

And nope. India is actually always hesitant to go all out- even during Kargil war it did it's best not to cross the borders at all to give any excuse to the other side. You forget the other major player China that's actually occupying the Pak Occupied Kashmir.
The Kashmir they call as " free" on Pakistani side is already a very small area - most of the parts are either made part of the other Pakistani state or given to China.

Not to mention USA and Europe who have traditionally backed up Pakistan and even issued nuclear threats to India on it's behalf. Not to forget today Pakistan itself possesses Nuclear weapons.

So in the end it would be a fight to decide which side has more survivors rather than who wins.
Uhm got it.. Armenia and Azerbaijan (not to be monotonous) are quite well-backed too. We can say that while Armenia is completely dependent on Russia (they don't even share borders) Azerbaijan is something like a minion of Turkey (and thus, of NATO). Plus, Azerbaijan is a good friend with the majority of Sunni Muslim states, but Iran is Armenian friendly, due to common allies and enemies.
 

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Ladakhi soldiers scaled that mountain without much food because they preferred to carry bullet instead. Fighting for three days under such a tough terrain on a few grains of rice they carried- they are the ones I remember most distinctly apart from the first female helicopter pilot who not only dropped supplies to the army at such a tough terrain but picked the injured/dead soldiers all the while dodging the missiles.

We didn't win it back due to technology but sheer will power of our skilled soldiers and their sacrifices.
Yes indeed they were courageous and brave soldier and i respect them from my heart.... and hope our Nepalese-Indian friendship relation stays forever ...:scorps: :score::score:
 
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I don't have the time to watch a 21 minutes video. I'm actually very interested in the topic though, and I'm not sure if an Azeri isn't biased..
If you want to make a point, please do by writing
You can read the comment section if you think he is biased. you can skip some parts where he goes to demographics, the role Russians played in this conflict is very interesting.

On the topic it simply seems the beheading is something cultural I gave the link to the news another muslim country beheading their enemies soldier on the border.
 

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Yes indeed they were courageous and brave soldier and i respect them from my heart.... and hope our Nepalese-Indian friendship relation stays forever ...:scorps: :score::score:
Indeed. Same here. Just to clarify I know- Gorkha regiment is one of the best regiments. Its just that in Kargil war all of them showed their best.
 

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You can read the comment section if you think he is biased. you can skip some parts where he goes to demographics, the role Russians played in this conflict is very interesting.

On the topic it simply seems the beheading is something cultural I gave the link to the news another muslim country beheading their enemies soldier on the border.
Ok I checked it and I definitely was wrong, this is a highly explicative video and I agree with the most part.

I don't know but don't think it's due to the religion though, even if Pakistan and Azerbaijan share the same Muslim faith, they have a different way to intend it. I'm not an expert but Pakistan has a big tendency towards fundamentalism and terrorism, which Azerbaijan has not, probably due to the downplaying of religion of their past Soviet era
 

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States run in agendas and delegations. They don't care about citizens' well being. The concern is the fewer the survivors the lesser the tax income.

That's why India is not attacking Pakistan
USA doing nothing to North Korea
USA doing nothing to Cuba

because each opponent posses nuclear weapons of cataclysmic destruction. That's how South Africa remain under Apartheid for so long because at the time it was a military first state and possessed element of surprise to any of the countries against it. Light gun activities wont hurt the truce much.

Conclusion being, a full retaliation on a grand scale to attack another country happens only when winning with minimum causalities is a plan in certainty
 
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