Obito the supreme jin
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I already countered this, perhaps you didn't bother reading. I said Sasuke didn't take away all of Naruto chakra with his Preta Path when he could've which is what gave Naruto some remaining strength to counter his slow moving Chidori. For all we know he could've streamed his Chidori and avoid risking to get hit.
You see so many moves yet Sasuke was made to look like the idiot. Yes manga facts do speak loud and proud and I'm being the most logical about Sasuke's moves. He was badly"nerfed" and tbh I hate repeating this word.
Kishi already dumbed down Hebi Sasuke to be on Naruto's level after he couldn't keep his emotions intact. I hope you know that already as for Ameno. Honestly Sasuke could've used an Ameno Snipe on Naruto but didn't. He used it only once. What Kishi was intending to portray for the first half of the fight was to make Sasuke's ideals clash against Naruto's ideals. Sasuke would ask the questions and Naruto would understand them. At the end of the fight he would accept that he was wrong. Sasuke's battle strategy as I said before is to pull out his big jutsus and making Naruto toughen up and pull his out two.
It was like the Hashirama vs Madara one, where Madara uses his PS armor on top of Kurama and then Hashirama pulls out his SS to counter. Sasuke's main purpose is to tire out Naruto by displaying various sets of abilities but never more than once. I'm talking about the heavy hitter jutsus. Sasuke was testing out Naruto and whatever you'd need to do that is the strategy you'd want to follow.
No, they were forming both attacks simultaneously. Kurama was gaining more NE to strengthen the Dual RS while Sasuke made his BPS to form Indra's arrow. He tested Naruto's determination further here.
Sasuke had to power up because he wanted Naruto to stop being a lame ass and start going seriously. I think he states after he creates the attack that would counter this "You've finally gotten serious". He's doing all in his power to make Naruto try harder instead of all of the dodging and ducking crap. He wants Naruto to be upfront with him. He's basically demanding answers. It's not reaching, it's thinking logically. There's a difference.
Naruto also needs a huge amount of NE intake to combat that power. Don't act like Naruto didn't have to power up or anything.
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NE is natural energy which doesn't come from the user, it comes from an external source and Naruto having RSM means that he can withhold just a tremendous amount of chakra. Naruto is physically stronger than him so he tried to limit his opportunities but don't forget Naruto also got a powerup.
Honestly the RG if he used it on Naruto would've captured him in a flash but I not going to get into this one now since it doesn't pertain to your points right now but another wasted opportunity just to show that he meant no harm to Naruto.
Sasuke comes unprepared to almost every battle, he doesn't need ntel to still be able to counter his Kurama Ava clones. It's true that he didn't exactly know about RSM Naruto's potential but some of it he did witness from when Naruto was battling Kaguya. He alo saw his mastery over RSM. But why need to know about it, when you can counter it.
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Naruto is the number 1 unpredicatable ninja and you'd expect people won't know what's coming at them but everytime Naruto does something unpredicatable, Sasuke's always got a counter for.
You know the people who know barely anything about the opponent's moves and are still able to pull through, those are the guys that are the most impressive. It's the same way when Sasuke was battling a much superior Bee.
I know Naruto can counter it, why else would he say that you're my only obstacle. But the method in which he countered is another one of Kishi's mess ups to allow the Naruto fans to celebrate about his feats.
Do you think it's logical for V1 shroud Naruto to tank Amaterasu when a KN8 Bee got destroyed by it.
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Amaterasu was made to look so ineffective. What other options does Sasuke have at this point wen his chakra is so low? Oh I know use a Raiton tech and avoid Taijutsu because Tai moves drain a user of more energy.
6 Paths is a common ability. If anything he can use all of those and not use Ameno much due to his lack of experience but another thing you failed to see was that he was gaining more and more experience as the battle went one. If Kishi wanted to make Sasuke go full out he would use them and restrict the Ameno's usage guaranteed that once again Kishi had to place a restriction on that with a cool down recharge time.
He was new to his Rinnegan power but there are certain abilities especially the common abilities that inexperience shouldn't be able to limit. Sasuke can also quickly get over a disadvantage so inexperience shouldn't limit him so much but it had. Yes his Rinnegan powers were nerfed and Kishi's excuse to his fans is what you're saying right now.
He conveniently made Sasuke this way and forced him to take an additional power, it all balances out. They are equal in every way. It's a constant series of restrictions. Sasuke not accustomed to his new powers means that Sasuke was at the disadvantage but till managed to pull out a draw states a lot about him. His potential was limited due to a convenient excuse. It's pretty easy to see.
1. Kirin
2. Shadow Clones(don't know why he wouldn't use them if he had them). Sticking to one style is pure arrogance and it means you're not willing to adapt to the situation.
3. Raiton techs including the one with his sword. Chidori Variants and not just Chidori like Chidori Senbon, Chidori Nagashi, etc..
4. Sasuke's Rinnegan gave him access to all 5 elements but the only elemental jutsu he ever used his Fire Style Fire Ball jutsu and that only one time. He could've used more elemntal jutsu and perhaps made it like Hiruzen's neutralizer . It isn't out of his grasp at all.
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5. His lack of a sword limits him from using Kenjutsu and him having a sword gives him great advantage which the author tossed away to conveniently spare Naruto's ass to be turned like this.
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6. Shuriken ninjutsu. Hebi Sasuke used it to almost Itachi's level while training where did it go now.
The list keeps going on but these are just a few of them. They are much more.
If Sasuke had never lost his sword against the battle with the 5 Kage which was a much more tense situation that him almost falling in the lava which he had a summon that could save him then that "unfortunate" occurrence should've never happened. He was made to lose it as to give a fair fight with Naruto.
Uh huh, he could've saved his sword after that heavy impact. His sheath had to be loose just at the right time to drop it in that fight and it conveniently happened right before Naruto. The sword is very useful and would be so against Naruto as well combing the fact that his speed was nerfed as well. One potential save would be Kakashi instantly Kamuing that shit to his dimension so he could later give it to Sasuke but then again he didn't bother. There are so many ways of protecting the lost sword but nothing happened. It's a huge nerf whether you like it or not.
Yeah sorry link is broken and perhaps you might want to broaden your understanding of Sasuke's abilities and then put into your own perspective of what he could've done instead of blindly following of what just happened.
I get what Kishi's trying to protray, first of all. Equality can be acheived in multiple ways but in Kishi's method it was his signature move nerfing. He had to nerf both when they showed their greatest abilities and had to put in 2 guys that had significantly less amount of moves all for the simple fact that he had to fit a fight in in under 7 chapters.
The author puts all of those events to not keep them from fighting at their fullest. Otherwise the battle would last forever. You had to understand all those things are byproducts of Kishi's time constraint.
Hell yeah, I'm serious as I've ever been.
I am talking bout missed arsenal in both of these characters somethings which they'veused more of in their previous fights. I bring you the manga's logic and it's interpretation. It is all facts and I just don't read at the baseline, I go further t see what Kishi has missed.
A character in the present can always use things in the past or any other abilities that are common to the Rinnegan users. It shouldn't be restricted. If we only argue about what was displayed then we are not broadening our understanding of this fight and what each character could have done.
Come on as humans we are all biased so yes a debate would be much better if you use everything. It shouldn't be a criticism just to do that.
Yes people have brought this up. Look up old threads about this topic and once again him not using the Shadow Clones is once again another nerf just to make Sasuke continuously spamming his old abilities. Kishi isn't allowing any adaptation in his time constraint.
I'll give you the non biased answer. It's because Kishi never cared about Sasuke having that ability and wanted him to keep relying on just his Substitution jutsu though Shadow Clone jutsu is much better.
And fyi the Boruto Movie is cannon. Kishimoto was the one who wrote the story and if he had clones in this cannon movie which is now a manga then he had it in the original manga as well. Kishi just restricted his ability to do so.
I don't see how the use of Shadow Clones is making him any more lonelier than he already is. The use of Shadow Clones is a call for a smart strategy which Kishi had to take away.
The one thing I can say about his lack of using those are because the Uchiha have always cared about potency and not about the quantity. Quality matters but he could've adapted which is what I'm saying.
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