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Seriously!!! I dont think so.
Novel wont stated everything but this is not Novel but fictional writing where 100% of it was a drawing with words in it. And no I dont believe what you said. For me Sasuke teasing Naruto and not testing him. He want to killed him and not testing him.
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Sasuke "I have to get rid of you"
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Sasuke "Just be a good boy and let me kill you!!"
I dont know what actually this comment intended toward? Maybe to justify your assumption about Sasuke testing Naruto. Where I disagree. I leave it.
Another assumption?? My post is meant only for VOTE2 battle and not his previous battles where he showed good battle strategy. I agree but not in VOTE2. Its true.
Yeah you wonder why previously he were very good in formulating battle strategies but not against Naruto in VOTE2? Still not the reason to call it nerfing but lack battle strategy this time.
He's not limit on anything here. He can used Rinnegan, MS, Ameno, PS and more.
Why I need to expecting? Story told us he still new to his Rinnegan power mean sure he couldnt reach all potential at that time. It's not nerfed but potential that not develop yet.
Why he not used Enton: Kagutsuchi that much? It was bcus it not in his battle strategy and Naruto know how to counter Enton as he did with Ama.
Its about battle strategy from the person with intent to kill. But he done it unwisely.
I make an analogy here and not bcus those weapons exist in NV: lol
Why past can be different to present time? Bcus times and events not always the same. In the past he could always able to protected/gripped his sword tightly. But battle situation no longer the same when facing with JJ Madara and Kaguya.
And losing actual sword no longer can be an excuses as he can create Raiton sword:
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It was not inside his battle strategy this time.
When did I say he lose the battle in physical sense? I'm just giving you the 'light' to see and think. Losing a sword not mean Sasuke was nerfed in his battle with Nardo but it was an unfortunate moment for him. If he still have his sword, he maybe can win that match but unfortunately. Nothing to do with nerfing here.
He want to kill Naruto that hindering his Goal. Intent for the kill there. No excuses allow.
Seriously Obito Supreme Jin??? You came into this idea in the act of desperation for counter. If Boruto movie didnt happen, you wont even know if he can created a clone or not. Original Manga wise, he never used/created shadow clones. Original manga fact please!!!
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Have you ever heard of an overexaggeration or a bluff. Sasuke uses it quite a lot. For example he said he would execute the 5 Kage just to capture Naruto's attention and pull him into a fight.
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Read the end of the fight and all of his true feelings are revealed, he didn't have killing intent despite him showing on the outside that he did. If he really did want to kill Naruto he would have kept absorbing his chakra while Naruto was down and then go for the Chidori. He gave time for Naruto to make a counter attack.
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His actions speak louder than words.
Well I disagree with your interpretation of the manga so I'll leave this as well.
He used Ameno only once, he could've definitely used more as he had tons of chakra. His chakra control was equivalent to that of the Sage's as stated by Kurama. How did he lack strategy? You keep telling me that but never saying how?
If anything he did have a strategy and that was to push Naruto to his limits. He had to bring the big guns out and to counter Naruto's Dual RS, he fored his strongest attack the Indra's arrow. He had a counter for each of Naruto's moves. His main plan was to not get Naruto killed. He knew that Naruto would use his Kurama avatar so he used his BPS to counter Kurama. He had a strategy but a lot of his arsenal was restricted and the things you say he had are also examples of further restrictions. All of the Rinnegan's Paths weren't used, Enton was used that much, maybe just an Amaterasu but come on he did much better with the Blaze Release against Madara.
He was severely limited and it's because this fight was rushed unlike VOTE 1.
Knowing/having intel about something doesn't mean he won't or shouldn't use it. Naruto had a lot of intel on all of the Pains but still got captured after he used Shinra Tensei. Also didn't you say he had no battle strategy, but here you are claiming that he had one but just not this. Seems like a contradiction.
He was new to his Rinnegan but that doesn't mean he couldn't have used all 6 Paths. Sasuke has a growing potential and just because he's new at something doesn't mean he doesn't have it.
Certain moves of Sasuke were restricted due to the severe impact it might cause, it's not like he didn't have it, it was that the author had no time to show all of his moves which makes sense.
Him losing all of his sword combos and the different things he can do with it just serves to make my point stronger and that he was nerfed. Naruto always says that"You won't know till you give it a try" and here you trying to imply that his sword would have been useless is just an assumption.
The battle situation doesn't matter a sword can be useful at all times. Was it not useful when Naruto and Sauke both used the sword against Momoshiki in a pure Taijutsu battle? :lol:
Kishi needed to throw out his sword to reduce Sasuke potential with the sword. It was made to look as an unfortunate circumstance but when he fought Naruto you clearly knew as to why he made Sasuke lose it in the Lava Dimension. Think more deeply, you are looking at the manga from the one dimension perspective and assuming that everything is just fate.
But the fact is that he didn't kill Naruto and he had intent to kill Naruto as to make Naruto believe he was out there to get his ass but the fact is that through his actions you could see he didn't want to kill him at all. This isn't an excuse but a fact.
Desperation isn't my thing when manga facts got my back. Making a clone is a basic Academy skill which Sasuke can do. The movie is cannon so he can definitely do it. What is a forbidden jutsu that is Jonin Level is the Multi Shadow Clone technique which Naruto quickly mastered. Sasuke chooses to use his Subsitition Jutsu more often than not but he easily could make clones if he wanted to. This is Rinnegan Sasuke you're talking about lol, if he already mastered the 5 elemental techniques and could use potentially any jutsu how hard would making a clone be?
Thing is you're taking the manga way too literally and you're not thinking about what he can do if the author had not beeen restricted. You walk down a one dimensional road.
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Did you for all intents and purposes ignoring the next page of this chapter. I think so.
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He actually did what you said above. But Naruto still had some strength left to countered Sasuke's next attack.
I dont know how you formulate your thinking here. Manga facts I used here speak louder than your over reaching assumptions.
You see he never thinking to used Ameno again when he can but preferred to battle Naruto head-on. He not devising any good strategy at all going forward. That's what I mean by lacking in battle strategy. I dont know what he was thinking at that time. Not that it matters as he's not alive but just a drawing. But in a sense Kishi want to shows to readers that Sasuke not using much battle strategy
I tell you what you wrote here is wrong;
"He had to bring the big guns out and to counter Naruto's Dual RS" [Obito the Supreme Jin's quote]
-Truthfully Sasuke was the one that pulled out the big gun first and not Naruto,
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"He knew that Naruto would use his Kurama avatar so he used his BPS to counter Kurama." [Obito the Supreme Jin's quote]
-*Face palm* How you came to that conclusion?, I dont know. It actually worse than me (a one dimensional as you accused me to be). I go with Manga and not over reaching here.
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He knows, nothing can defeat and kill Naruto that on par with him with just a PS. He need to seek other power source that beyond Naruto's power.
He never did that on the reason of knowing about Kurama's Ashura Avatar(3 heads and 6 arms). He never know about that potential exist on Naruto. What Naruto did after that is creating Kurama Ava clones. And not Kurama's Ashura Avatar.
I'm not saying Enton wont work on Naruto, just telling you from fact that Naruto is capable to counter it. But sure if he used it on Naruto, a result can be produce(success or failure). But that's not my true motive. Just telling you that it was not a one way/one side action.
Example:
-Sasuke used Amaterasu and Naruto countered it using chakra cloak- It was two ways action.
It bcus when I read people arguments here, their thinking always be one side action and never thinking about the other side.
He can used all of Paths but this was the reality you need to accept;
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Sasuke is still new to his Rinnegan mean not many moves he can do.
Like I said Sasuke's Rinnegan potential still need a development plus what he did with Rinnegan is according to his experience. Thats why he still couldnt display other paths yet.
I quote back my previous statement "Story told us he still new to his Rinnegan power mean sure he couldnt reach all potential at that time. It's not nerfed but potential that not develop yet."
I never said he doesn't have all Rinn Paths or couldnt used it in future but not at that time.
Care to tell me what kind of impact? And how person with Intention to kill care about severe impact?
When did I said his sword could be useless in battle? Never.
Earlier you said not having a sword(nerfing sign)
I refuted it by saying "it was unfortunate moment and not nerfing"
I bring in Raiton sword as to compensate his lost steel sword. But he never used it on Naruto. Not in his battle strategy.
He lost it here:
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When he facing with JJ Madara. He not losing his sword but never care to take it back bcus he can do this:
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-A Raiton sword. Very sharp.
What he lost here is:
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his sword cover/sheath/scabbard.
Do you even manga before posting?
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Yes! I'm using story nature and not your perspective. We're not making what if battle here but disproving what people called as nerfing. Read it from story POV and not self perspective. Your perspective was not fact but what happen in manga was a fact.
In story fate, destiny, misfortune, unfortunate moments all happens. Part of story. Yeah author can effect his story but I keep that out.
Seriously!!!!
I bring more manga fact to you. I bring you a story and story's outcome and its fact. We are not talking about Fillers here but Manga.
What you're using here was out of story materials and not in story materials and what currently present in the story at that time and not future.
Why people never brought this issue before, about Sasuke not using Shadow clones in Original Manga and now you bring this issue? For you arguments.
Maybe I can help you answer it. It bcus Sasuke never show it in original manga and if you used it, it count as fanfic.
You have a gut to bring it in here bcus of Boruto movie. Another fact you need to take into consideration is how author portray Sasuke to be, an Indra's transmigrant. Always work alone.
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The star of the Manga is Naruto Uzumaki all Sasuke Uchiha is support. To think otherwise is illogical and dumb in a traditional story. If you can't phantom the truth of this your either insane or think you can change canon by will alone and that too is insanity.