[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 829 Discussion and 830 Predictions

[Bogard]

What did you expect? We've already seen her as a power-hungry, ravenous woman. I don't see anything in this chapter that we didn't know before, other than the fact that she can steal someone's life force, which is friggin' cool.

It's her "rampage" that i found underwhelming. Bloodlusted and all that, yet she do street level damage at best with fodders dodging her attacks, whose development seems to resolve around a "hax" ability not even that "hax"(if you don't fear her). In short terms, based on what i see so far, she is a Moria 2.0.

I kinda already expected it seeing how she seemed to be more developed around her influencial power than individual strength, but not to this extent

This is based on her intro though. She could be more powerful than this, but based on what is seen? Yes kinda underwhelming

 

[WoldOfFingo]

It's her "rampage" that i found underwhelming. Bloodlusted and all that, yet she do street level damage at best with fodders dodging her attacks, whose development seems to resolve around a "hax" ability not even that "hax"(if you don't fear her). In short terms, based on what i see so far, she is a Moria 2.0.

I kinda already expected it seeing how she seemed to be more developed around her influencial power than individual strength, but not to this extent

This is based on her intro though. She could be more powerful than this, but based on what is seen? Yes kinda underwhelming

You think Jinbei will show fear when facing her?

 

[x Tensa zangetsu x]

haxx fruit, also my boy jimbe with the assist.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's her "rampage" that i found underwhelming. Bloodlusted and all that, yet she do street level damage at best with fodders dodging her attacks, whose development seems to resolve around a "hax" ability not even that "hax"(if you don't fear her). In short terms, based on what i see so far, she is a Moria 2.0.

I kinda already expected it seeing how she seemed to be more developed around her influencial power than individual strength, but not to this extent

This is based on her intro though. She could be more powerful than this, but based on what is seen? Yes kinda underwhelming

So basically every Yonko aside from Teach and Whitebeard? Of course there will be more.s

 

[Tomato God]

So basically every Yonko aside from Teach and Whitebeard? Of course there will be more.s

Yea but why introduce the best two yonko if the others are just gonna have hax abilities instead of raw un-matched vitality and strength, black beard and white beard just wouldn't die because they were mother fukkan animals.

Lilin and Kiado seem like they wont die because of some abilities, Kiado's involving never losing (Antaeus) And big Ma straight up having insta kill, they both seem like schichibukai level problems if you just have seastone.

 

[Caliburn]

It's her "rampage" that i found underwhelming. Bloodlusted and all that, yet she do street level damage at best with fodders dodging her attacks, whose development seems to resolve around a "hax" ability not even that "hax"(if you don't fear her). In short terms, based on what i see so far, she is a Moria 2.0.

I kinda already expected it seeing how she seemed to be more developed around her influencial power than individual strength, but not to this extent

This is based on her intro though. She could be more powerful than this, but based on what is seen? Yes kinda underwhelming

This "rampage" was caused by her simply having a hunger that can only be stilled by a specific meal. I reckon a rampage when she's angry and fighting will be of a completely different caliber.

 

[loj]

This "rampage" was caused by her simply having a hunger that can only be stilled by a specific meal. I reckon a rampage when she's angry and fighting will be of a completely different caliber.

Find it interesting what Sawyer said about her eyes,looks like she is hypnotized with these spiral eyes.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Find it interesting what Sawyer said about her eyes,looks like she is hypnotized with these spiral eyes.

That's just a common thing for people in a mindless rage. The bull fish from the Corrida tourney had the same thing.

 

[loj]

That's just a common thing for people in a mindless rage. The bull fish from the Corrida tourney had the same thing.

Well find it weird since Vinsmoke's have the same thing.And in some way Big Mom and Vinsmokes are connected or I'm looking too much into it.

 

[Caliburn]

Find it interesting what Sawyer said about her eyes,looks like she is hypnotized with these spiral eyes.

Meh I really think you shouldn't give it that much thought. It's kinda difficult to make someone look like he's in a mindless rage with straight eyes. Apparently based on this chapter it's not unusual for her to do this to the point they even define it as some kind of an eating disorder.

 

[ToshiZO]

Big Mom's intro was so underwhelming that Kaidou's underling seems more of a threat than her. If I wasn't told she was a Yonkou I'd swear Jack was one before her.

Easily the lamest top tier let alone Yonkou (including Admirals and Yonkou).

Yea but why introduce the best two yonko if the others are just gonna have hax abilities instead of raw un-matched vitality and strength, black beard and white beard just wouldn't die because they were mother fukkan animals.

Lilin and Kiado seem like they wont die because of some abilities, Kiado's involving never losing (Antaeus) And big Ma straight up having insta kill, they both seem like schichibukai level problems if you just have seastone.

Kaido hax?

Kaido gives off the vibe of pure physical ability...man fell from the sky and didn't even recieve a scratch, don't know what you are seeing.

 

[LBeezy]

Big Mom's intro was so underwhelming that Kaidou's underling seems more of a threat than her. If I wasn't told she was a Yonkou I'd swear Jack was one before her.

Easily the lamest top tier let alone Yonkou (including Admirals and Yonkou).

At first I was feeling the same way.. but at the end end of the day, I'm glad that she has a completely different vibe than the other Yonkou.. her introduction is obviously not as cool or badass as the others, but one thing we can say is that out of everybody, her introduction showed us how truly insane and psychotic she is. Lol I think she's the craziest Yonkou ( Kaido coming in close second ) So I'm looking forward to what Oda has in store for us.. hopefully the more we see of her powers/fighting skills the better of a top tier character she'll be.

 

[Punk Hazard]

>*literally steals someone's soul*
>"Not cool enough."

Y'all got some ****ed standards.

 

[loj]

>*literally steals someone's soul*
>"Not cool enough."

Y'all got some ****ed standards.

Could be of her looks :shrugs: still an awesome ability

 

[Punk Hazard]

Could be of her looks :shrugs: still an awesome ability

Yup, apparently unless Big Mom sinks her own damn country, she's just underwhelming. I doubt even in her rages, Big Mom would go so far, doesn't sound like someone who will destroy all of their own prospects uncontrollably could ever become a Yonko.

 

[ToshiZO]

>*literally steals someone's soul*
>"Not cool enough."

Y'all got some ****ed standards.

She was on a rampage and the damage she was doing is something pre timeskip Zoro could do casually. Weak intro for a Yonkou, no excuses.

Yup, apparently unless Big Mom sinks her own damn country, she's just underwhelming. I doubt even in her rages, Big Mom would go so far, doesn't sound like someone who will destroy all of their own prospects uncontrollably could ever become a Yonko.

Lmfao so you're gonna ignore what the author clearly told us AND showed us. Her eyes were swirling around and this guy is tryna say she was in control. Couldn't even recognize one of her sons.

At first I was feeling the same way.. but at the end end of the day, I'm glad that she has a completely different vibe than the other Yonkou.. her introduction is obviously not as cool or badass as the others, but one thing we can say is that out of everybody, her introduction showed us how truly insane and psychotic she is. Lol I think she's the craziest Yonkou ( Kaido coming in close second ) So I'm looking forward to what Oda has in store for us.. hopefully the more we see of her powers/fighting skills the better of a top tier character she'll be.

Its not only about being cool or badass for me, but objectively speaking her strength was underwhelming in her intro.

I don't mind her personality, I wouldn't want copies of other characters.

 

[Punk Hazard]

She was on a rampage and the damage she was doing is something pre timeskip Zoro could do casually. Weak intro for a Yonkou, no excuses.

Show me Kaido and Shanks doing more damage.

Lmfao so you're gonna ignore what the author clearly told us AND showed us. Her eyes were swirling around and this guy is tryna say she was in control. Couldn't even recognize one of her sons.

In control no, but it's not like someone who's just gonna sink their own islands would be able to become Yonko. Remember that this happens to Big Mom constantly, if her rampages drove her to the point of destroying her own island, would she have ever become a Yonko?

Bear in mind that that it's not like Big Mom's rampage was going on for days and days or whatever. Even Whitebeard's strongest Quakes couldn't destroy the main building in Marineford completely, but you expect Big Mom to destroy her entire island via wanton destruction during a short period of time? Not to mention that Big Mom was also traveling along a general path, not just running around the entire island just destroying this, and doing most of the destruction by eating things, not just straight breaking them. Take a look at the state of Marineford after hours of WAR and then tell me what Big Mom did alone was underwhelming.

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[ToshiZO]

In control no, but it's not like someone who's just gonna sink their own islands would be able to become Yonko. Remember that this happens to Big Mom constantly, if her rampages drove her to the point of destroying her own island, would she have ever become a Yonko?

Bear in mind that that it's not like Big Mom's rampage was going on for days and days or whatever. Even Whitebeard's strongest Quakes couldn't destroy the main building in Marineford completely, but you expect Big Mom to destroy her entire island via wanton destruction during a short period of time? Not to mention that Big Mom was also traveling along a general path, not just running around the entire island just destroying this, and doing most of the destruction by eating things, not just straight breaking them. Take a look at the state of Marineford after hours of WAR and then tell me what Big Mom did alone was underwhelming.

Don't try adding logic to this. Its an intro, I could care less what the hell would be possible or not. Oda makes it happen. He could have made her destroy another island, not her own if he wanted, it would be written differently. There are unlimited scenarios Oda could have used to introduce her lmao its not rocket science.

Lmfao at you comparing WB's attacks to this street level damage, that pre timeskip Sanji is capable of. Some rampage.

Show me Kaido and Shanks doing more damage.

Lmfaoo did Kaido or Shanks go on a rampage? Did they even try destroying things? What a stupid comparison, you want to know what Shanks did in his Yonkou introduction?

He knocked out people left and right without even touching them, something that was unheard of in One Piece during the time. He put dents on WB's ship just by his presence alone, he split the damn heavens. That is how you build up hype.

What did Kaido do? He fell from 10 000 meters in the air, and didn't even receive a scratch, he recieved a huge narrative to his intro. That is how you build hype.

Big Mom doing street level damage when on a rampage is not saying shit. Jack's 1 billion bounty intro was more impactful.

These intros have to do one thing, they have to be impactful, something that would make you feel "yea this pirate is not like any other we have ever seen, someone special, on a whole other level" and Big Mom failed on a heavy level.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Don't try adding logic to this.

Convo's gonna have to end here tbvh.

Lmfao at you comparing WB's attacks to this street level damage, that pre timeskip Sanji is capable of. Some rampage.

Am I wrong though? Did WB's rampage of his own not fail to destroy more than the front part of Marineford? WB couldn't destroy the main HQ building, hell, he couldn't destroy Aokiji's office, after hours of war, but Big Mom is unimpressive because she didn't sink her island in a few minutes of rampage? Oh, sorry, I forgot, you don't want to use logic.

Lmfaoo did Kaido or Shanks go on a rampage? Did they even try destroying things? What a stupid comparison, you want to know what Shanks did in his Yonkou introduction?

The point of that was actually to show that just because a Yonko hasn't shown it doesn't mean they aren't capable of it. In Shanks' first appearance, he lost an arm to a fish that Luffy one-shot. I guess Shanks is also underwhelming.

He knocked out people left and right without even touching them,

So can Luffy, not that impressive. Oda's own description of Haoshoku is that the knocking out ability only works on fodder, so it's not a good example.

He put dents on WB's ship just by his presence alone,

I like how you try to spin this like he wasn't using an extremely rare ability to accomplish this feat.

he split the damn heavens.

And Big Mom stole someone's soul. Just as impressive and badass.

What did Kaido do? He fell from 10 000 meters in the air, and didn't even receive a scratch, he recieved a huge narrative to his intro. That is how you build hype.

And stealing someone's soul isn't as impressive an ability? Please.

Big Mom doing street level damage when on a rampage is not saying shit.

Probably because what was supposed to say shit was not her physical strength but HER ABILITY TO STEAL SOULS.

Jack's 1 billion bounty intro was more impactful.

No it wasn't. If a 1 billion bounty strikes you more than ripping someone's life force out, then you're just looking for any excuse to bash on Big Mom.

These intros have to do one thing, they have to be impactful, something that would make you feel "yea this pirate is not like any other we have ever seen, someone special, on a whole other level" and Big Mom failed on a heavy level.

Oh yeah, I remember all of the pirates who could rip someone's soul out via swiping at them.

 

[ToshiZO]

Convo's gonna have to end here tbvh.

Alright then.

I'm glad you understand. I'm not here to argue what the logic behind it all was, I could care less.

Was her intro underwhelming? Yes it was.

Was there logic behind why it was underwhelming? Maybe, maybe not. I don't care about that, its irrelevant, and this is what you are bringing to this discussion a whole lot of irrelevant.

I'm not here complaining about things not making sense, or it not being logical, I'm saying it was underwhelming, I don't need to hear why it was underwhelming.