Ten tails Hagoromo would possibly be on par with Kaguya

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I just watched last episode of Naruto shippuden, which ( I know this is filler) showed Hagoromo sticking to peace and avoiding any conflict possible at all cost. Also he was just keep spreading his chakra/power to create spirtual connection with others.

This way Hagoromo had never had opporunity to feel his overhelming great power as Ten tails host as(according to filler) he refused to use it and keep wandering around until he began to share his chakra with people so he kept getting weaker.

Now it makes sense for Hagoromo to say: "My mother, she was more powerfull then anyone" and the way he speak about having too much power could corrupt hinting himself too shows that he has never plan to make use of such power.

All manga states is Kaguya > None jin Hagoromo

 

[Melanin]

I'm might be wrong but isn't the 10 tails apart of Kaguya or Kaguya herself.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Spider-Man > Kaguya GG

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

I don't know if it plays any role but hagoromo was a hybrid between ootsuki and some human while Kaguya was pure ootsuki so idk if he could ever be on par with her

 

[SenseiSama]

Without the Shinju he's still inferior and can still die

 

[3MESSIAH]

Well it could be
But i always viewed it this way;if madara who was on a level of hagoromo(hagoromo stated it himself) was no where near kaguya's level of chakra(stated by sasuke) then hagoromo must have been behind kaguya in power as well

That fight between kaguya and her sons made no sense to me
I always thought kaguya,after she consumed the chakra fruit, gained ultimate power and afterwards transformed into a juubi because all that power was too much for her thus it corrupted her and she couldnt control it...in that way she would be nothing but a mindless monster so it would make sense hag and ham would be able to defeat her based on their skill
However kaguya just standing there and releasing the juubi made no sense,she should have been more powerful than that

 

[KCMNaruto]

I'm might be wrong but isn't the 10 tails apart of Kaguya or Kaguya herself.

Exactly that why I was confused why TTH Hagoromo considered himself infferior.

I don't know if it plays any role but hagoromo was a hybrid between ootsuki and some human while Kaguya was pure ootsuki so idk if he could ever be on par with her

Possibly, however getting Ten tails host is huge power up or at least significant one so he should be close to her, I mean really close.

Without the Shinju he's still inferior and can still die

Really ?, However Shinjuu was part of that Juubi according to manga.

Well it could be
But i always viewed it this way;if madara who was on a level of hagoromo(hagoromo stated it himself) was no where near kaguya's level of chakra(stated by sasuke) then hagoromo must have been behind kaguya in power as well

That fight between kaguya and her sons made no sense to me
I always thought kaguya,after she consumed the chakra fruit, gained ultimate power and afterwards transformed into a juubi because all that power was too much for her thus it corrupted her and she couldnt control it...in that way she would be nothing but a mindless monster so it would make sense hag and ham would be able to defeat her based on their skill
However kaguya just standing there and releasing the juubi made no sense,she should have been more powerful than that

Thanks for such well constructed and thought out response ;p. However I believe Hagoromo was talking about himself when he wasn't jin, so this way it was shown at least.

Also filler showing Kaguya staying behind while controlling Shinjuu aka Juubi didn't make sense as Hagoromo has never considered fighting his mother.... unless he has reason to lie to them.

 

[3MESSIAH]

Exactly that why I was confused why TTH Hagoromo considered himself infferior.



Possibly, however getting Ten tails host is huge power up or at least significant one so he should be close to her, I mean really close.



Really ?, However Shinjuu was part of that Juubi according to manga.



Thanks for such well constructed and thought out response ;p. However I believe Hagoromo was talking about himself when he wasn't jin, so this way it was shown at least.

Also filler showing Kaguya staying behind while controlling Shinjuu aka Juubi didn't make sense as Hagoromo has never considered fighting his mother.... unless he has reason to lie to them.

Well one could argue hagoromo is indeed on a level of kaguya as he gave naruto and sasuke two halves of his power and we all know that was enough to beat her so the point could stand;that hagoromo definitely has what it takes to beat her(two seals) however as i've said before i personally dont believe ten tails is the ultimate power but rather just a byproduct of the ultimate power(shinju fruit) so i still think kaguya's original source of power was greater....i feel like juubi is a watered down version of it,twisted and corrupted

 

[Ansatsuken]

Well one could argue hagoromo is indeed on a level of kaguya as he gave naruto and sasuke two halves of his power and we all know that was enough to beat her so the point could stand;that hagoromo definitely has what it takes to beat her(two seals) however as i've said before i personally dont believe ten tails is the ultimate power but rather just a byproduct of the ultimate power(shinju fruit) so i still think kaguya's original source of power was greater....i feel like juubi is a watered down version of it,twisted and corrupted

Kaguya being above JJ Madara bcus she absorbed more chakra than what presented already. Couldnt used that in reasoning.

At best Kaguya's chakra level if she revive back without outside chakra(IT chakra) is in same level as JJ Madara.

 

[3MESSIAH]

Kaguya being above JJ Madara bcus she absorbed more chakra than what presented already. Couldnt used that in reasoning.

At best Kaguya's chakra level if she revive back without outside chakra(IT chakra) is in same level as JJ Madara.

But do you realize all that IT chakra and all chakra there ever was came from the fruit she consumed?? So logically original prime kaguya's power is beyond that of any one else's power

 

[KCMNaruto]

Well one could argue hagoromo is indeed on a level of kaguya as he gave naruto and sasuke two halves of his power and we all know that was enough to beat her so the point could stand;that hagoromo definitely has what it takes to beat her(two seals) however as i've said before i personally dont believe ten tails is the ultimate power but rather just a byproduct of the ultimate power(shinju fruit) so i still think kaguya's original source of power was greater....i feel like juubi is a watered down version of it,twisted and corrupted

Indeed it could be that case ;p. Anyway I believe TT Hagoromo wouldn't be too far from her

But do you realize all that IT chakra and all chakra there ever was came from the fruit she consumed?? So logically original prime kaguya's power is beyond that of any one else's power

exactly

 

[Holy God]

Hagoromo should have more chakra (his own and all of Kaguya's), but chakra won't matter when it's unlikely either would run out before the fight ends. Kaguya's techniques are just simply more effective than what we know Hagoromo can do, which is why she's above him.

 

[Otsuutsuuki]

Hagoromo should have more chakra (his own and all of Kaguya's), but chakra won't matter when it's unlikely either would run out before the fight ends. Kaguya's techniques are just simply more effective than what we know Hagoromo can do, which is why she's above him.

I agree with this guy

On topic: Let say chakra doesnt matter as both have large amount of chakra whatsoever. Their level of chakra is more than sufficient to used large scale Jutsu.

What matter the most is battle prowess (and effectiveness) and as a man its in their nature to be superior than woman and in this sense Hago will looks superior and be superior than his mother. That battle prowess wise

For effectiveness wise, Kaguya holds the most effective killing technique. But it goes down to their battle prowess and strategy.

Here I chose JJ Hagoromo.

 

[NextGenNinja]

No, to be on par with prime kaguya. he'd need hamura, black zetsu and the gedo statue's chakra to be on her chakra level. Only then would he have jutsu ranging on her level. Besides that's just filler info, black zetsu said indra's power would rival hagoromo's. :lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Manga has been over for a year and a half and you are still spouting this nonsense?