[Discussion] Yhwach is cheating!

[Your Creepy Stalker]

It's not even night, and he's using Haschwalth's power.

Ichigo: BANKAI!
*EPIC THEME MUSIC*
Ichigo: TENSA ZANGET-
Yhwach: nope.
Ichigo: *Get's Wrecked*


Honestly, even if that fight had been against someone other than Yhwach, that would have been a pretty dissapointing Bankai.
It went from Dual Katana's to one massive cleaver. I would have believed it more if that was his Shikai, and the dual wielding was his Bankai.

 

[Joon]

Kubo just hyped it's reveal IMO.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Yhwach is broken smh. I dont see him losing to anything but plot

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Yhwach is broken smh. I dont see him losing to anything but plot

What about Aizen, or Chair-Sama?

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

This was some old bullshit. Wanted to see what ichigo could do smdh. Ywach can eat a bag of limp monkey meats

 

[Venomous Cobra]

What about Aizen, or Chair-Sama?

He literary re-wrote the actual present where ichigos bankai was normal and ready and made it so in a certain circumstance in the future, it would be broken. Assuming he had already seen aizens kyoka suigetsu, he would only need to be aware of it in order to stop it. Which can happen by either thinking (hes ****ing yhwach, his intelligence should be at that level) or something


Lmao I don't know tbh, this ability has so much potential

 

[ssjelf]

He basically just set up his own defeat in this chapter. By telling ichigo that it is the power to change the future, then all ichigo needs to do is be stronger to change it himself, but beyond that even, Ishida has the ability of A, the almighty as well, meaning he can change the future. And if he had absolute hold over the future, this fight would already be over because he could control ichigo. It also means aizens bankai will likely be able to fool yhwach because Yhwach just admitted he cant see through everything, but can only change the future.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

He basically just set up his own defeat in this chapter. By telling ichigo that it is the power to change the future, then all ichigo needs to do is be stronger to change it himself, but beyond that even, Ishida has the ability of A, the almighty as well, meaning he can change the future. And if he had absolute hold over the future, this fight would already be over because he could control ichigo. It also means aizens bankai will likely be able to fool yhwach because Yhwach just admitted he cant see through everything, but can only change the future.

When does being stronger make you immune to the effects of almighty? How is Ichigo getting a power-up above Yhwach almighty+mimihagi+soul king . Not by himself obviously Yhwach has already forseen that. Again the only way is if Ichigo gets a soul king power up otherwise he should literally be dead right now.

Ishida's A is not designated as almighty. That was not remotely stated in the manga. While I understand your reasoning behind thinking he does, Ishida is nowhere near almighty Yhwach level of strength. I mean, he's getting spanked by Hashwalth . Granted quincy grandmaster but still :kk:.

Yhwach has already stated that he doesn't want to beat Ichigo immediately . You must have skipped his monolouging and straight into the battle, can't blame you Tekking provably did the same XD.

How can he manipulate a future he can't see ? Haschwalth already said the almighty isn't JUST a power to SEE the future. He can still see the future(s) but he can also manipulate it. How is Aizen going to manipulate Yhwach in anyway you can't fool someone who can see all futures and manipulate them to his liking esoecially futures where he's "fooled". Auzen fanboys are grasping at straws that aren't even there

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

What about Aizen, or Chair-Sama?

Chair-Sama gets wreckt by the Chair-God that Yhwach sots on. And Aizen gets manipulated and dropped on his face while Yhwach sips coffee and reads the morning paper

 

[ssjelf]

When does being stronger make you immune to the effects of almighty? How is Ichigo getting a power-up above Yhwach almighty+mimihagi+soul king . Not by himself obviously Yhwach has already forseen that. Again the only way is if Ichigo gets a soul king power up otherwise he should literally be dead right now.

Ishida's A is not designated as almighty. That was not remotely stated in the manga. While I understand your reasoning behind thinking he does, Ishida is nowhere near almighty Yhwach level of strength. I mean, he's getting spanked by Hashwalth . Granted quincy grandmaster but still :kk:.

Yhwach has already stated that he doesn't want to beat Ichigo immediately . You must have skipped his monolouging and straight into the battle, can't blame you Tekking provably did the same XD.

How can he manipulate a future he can't see ? Haschwalth already said the almighty isn't JUST a power to SEE the future. He can still see the future(s) but he can also manipulate it. How is Aizen going to manipulate Yhwach in anyway you can't fool someone who can see all futures and manipulate them to his liking esoecially futures where he's "fooled". Auzen fanboys are grasping at straws that aren't even there

He can't see all futures. He just said he cant. Besides that, Ichigos bankai wasn't broke when he took it out, it was broke afterwards, meaning it wasnt broken until Yhwach saw it. Also Ishida took on the almighty without losing so it clearly isnt going to end ichigo, Haschwalth even said it wasnt the best at fighting. And if the almighty truly saw all possible futures, then Haschwalth would have no doubt about who Ishida was. Ishida saw the weakness already, Yhwach jsut confirmed it accidentely. It isnt omniscient even if Yhwach wants it to seem that way. Saying he can see all possible futures is just arrogance on his part because he thinks he makes the only futures. Yama beat him once before so even if Yhwach has more power now, almighty does indeed have a weakness.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

When does being stronger make you immune to the effects of almighty? How is Ichigo getting a power-up above Yhwach almighty+mimihagi+soul king . Not by himself obviously Yhwach has already forseen that. Again the only way is if Ichigo gets a soul king power up otherwise he should literally be dead right now.

Ishida's A is not designated as almighty. That was not remotely stated in the manga. While I understand your reasoning behind thinking he does, Ishida is nowhere near almighty Yhwach level of strength. I mean, he's getting spanked by Hashwalth . Granted quincy grandmaster but still :kk:.

Yhwach has already stated that he doesn't want to beat Ichigo immediately . You must have skipped his monolouging and straight into the battle, can't blame you Tekking provably did the same XD.

How can he manipulate a future he can't see ? Haschwalth already said the almighty isn't JUST a power to SEE the future. He can still see the future(s) but he can also manipulate it. How is Aizen going to manipulate Yhwach in anyway you can't fool someone who can see all futures and manipulate them to his liking esoecially futures where he's "fooled". Auzen fanboys are grasping at straws that aren't even there

Thats a reasonable argument, its a shame Aizen defies all reason. As it is, Aizens current level is impossible to judge, save two things. 1: He is stronger than during Deicide, and 2: He was clearly re-introduced for a reason/

 

[Venomous Cobra]

When does being stronger make you immune to the effects of almighty? How is Ichigo getting a power-up above Yhwach almighty+mimihagi+soul king . Not by himself obviously Yhwach has already forseen that. Again the only way is if Ichigo gets a soul king power up otherwise he should literally be dead right now.

Ishida's A is not designated as almighty. That was not remotely stated in the manga. While I understand your reasoning behind thinking he does, Ishida is nowhere near almighty Yhwach level of strength. I mean, he's getting spanked by Hashwalth . Granted quincy grandmaster but still :kk:.

Yhwach has already stated that he doesn't want to beat Ichigo immediately . You must have skipped his monolouging and straight into the battle, can't blame you Tekking provably did the same XD.

How can he manipulate a future he can't see ? Haschwalth already said the almighty isn't JUST a power to SEE the future. He can still see the future(s) but he can also manipulate it. How is Aizen going to manipulate Yhwach in anyway you can't fool someone who can see all futures and manipulate them to his liking esoecially futures where he's "fooled". Auzen fanboys are grasping at straws that aren't even there

Agreed with everything except aizen with kyoka suigetsu can stop yhawch from seeing that certain potential future where he is fooled by aizen thus successfully making him unaware of one possibility or even more tbh sincekyoka suigetsu makes you think,feel,see whatever aizen wants you to.

This is the only danger aizen could pose

 

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

Aiken can't do anything. Ichigo current is even more powerful than when he faced Aiken but he's currently getting spanked. I'm very disappointed I wanted to see Ichigo use his powers before getting spanked. I wanna see how much more powerful he is. We were set up for this bankai for like a year now and it gets destroyed instantly. Ichigo better have something else the final getsuga without losing his powers.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Thats a reasonable argument, its a shame Aizen defies all reason. As it is, Aizens current level is impossible to judge, save two things. 1: He is stronger than during Deicide, and 2: He was clearly re-introduced for a reason/

Like the reason GrimmJow was reintroduced?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Yhwach is broken smh. I dont see him losing to anything but plot

Yup pretty much. Seriously, the only way I see he can logically get out of the problem is if he and Haschwalth switch powers or Ichigo gets help from a limb of the soul king.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Like the reason GrimmJow was reintroduced?

Grimmjow helped fight askinn, All Aizen has done now is appear, try to shoot down the soul palace, fail, and then sit back and watch the plot happen.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

It's not even night, and he's using Haschwalth's power.

Ichigo: BANKAI!
*EPIC THEME MUSIC*
Ichigo: TENSA ZANGET-
Yhwach: nope.
Ichigo: *Get's Wrecked*


Honestly, even if that fight had been against someone other than Yhwach, that would have been a pretty dissapointing Bankai.
It went from Dual Katana's to one massive cleaver. I would have believed it more if that was his Shikai, and the dual wielding was his Bankai.

X3 Ha ha ha!!!! That's why Bleach anime needs to come back. ^^ I imagine that "Number One" would be playing, and "POOF" music turns off because Ichigo's Bankai is broken.

Yhwach is a savage, gave our hero two middle fingers, and two middle toes! No musical power-up for Ichigo.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

X3 Ha ha ha!!!! That's why Bleach anime needs to come back. ^^ I imagine that "Number One" would be playing, and "POOF" music turns off because Ichigo's Bankai is broken.

Yhwach is a savage, gave our hero two middle fingers, and two middle toes! No musical power-up for Ichigo.

More or less one sided than this?

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