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He cannot cast Amaterasu with his right eye.

Exactly, so if MS Sasuke's left eye was crushed or stolen. His right MS eye would be useless because there is no amatersu by what you're implying? You're saying he needs his left eye in order for him to use his right, otherwise without it he can't use his right eye at all.
 

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Exactly, so if MS Sasuke's left eye was crushed or stolen. His right MS eye would be useless because there is no amatersu by what you're implying? You're saying he needs his left eye in order for him to use his right, otherwise without it he can't use his right eye at all.

Correct. I had said that here:
No, he'd still be able to cast Amaterasu. If you meant the other way around, then yes, since his right eye cannot use the technique.
 

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Correct. I had said that here:

So Sasuke is the only known mangekyo user to not use two separate eye technique without the other eye?
Itachi can use Tsukuyomi without his right eye and Amatersu without his left eye. Tobi can use intangible kamui without his left eye and Long range kamui without his right eye. But MS Sasuke is useless without the left...
How does that make sense?
 

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So Sasuke is the only known mangekyo user to not use two separate eye technique without the other eye?
Itachi can use Tsukuyomi without his right eye and Amatersu without his left eye. Tobi can use intangible kamui without his left eye and Long range kamui without his right eye. But MS Sasuke is useless without the left...
How does that make sense?

If you're in denial, there's , but if you're asking conceptually, he was never planned to lose either of his eyes, so something like that wouldn't have occurred in Kishimoto's mind.
 

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Exactly, so if MS Sasuke's left eye was crushed or stolen. His right MS eye would be useless because there is no amatersu by what you're implying? You're saying he needs his left eye in order for him to use his right, otherwise without it he can't use his right eye at all.

No it wouldn't, he just wouldn't be able to cast Amaterasu on a target but he would still be able to generate the flame because his brain is what produces Sharingan chakra.
 

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No it wouldn't, he just wouldn't be able to cast Amaterasu on a target but he would still be able to use the flame because his brain is what produces Sharingan chakra.

Man you are retarded that explains why Madara could use Kamui (Only) after obtaining Obito's eye
 

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Man you are retarded that explains why Madara could use Kamui (Only) after obtaining Obito's eye

Again resorting to insults without countering.

Sharingan has the user's chakra as confirmed when Shisui's chakra was sensed in Danzo.
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And the chakra in the user's eye is produced by their brain as explained by Tobirama
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Stay in denial :coffee:
 

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Again resorting to insults without countering.

Sharingan has the user's chakra as confirmed when Shisui's chakra was sensed in Danzo.
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And the chakra in the user's eye is produced by their brain as explained by Tobirama
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Stay in denial :coffee:

Are you retarded? Reread what I posted. If what you're saying is true, then how come Madara was able to only use Kamui after taking Obito's eye? How come Itachi loses his light when using Izanami? How come Sasuke eye's bleed when he uses Amateratsu? The only feat of a dojutsu being used without eyes is Sussano
 

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Exactly, so if MS Sasuke's left eye was crushed or stolen. His right MS eye would be useless because there is no amatersu by what you're implying? You're saying he needs his left eye in order for him to use his right, otherwise without it he can't use his right eye at all.

Sasuke can use kagutsuchi without amaterasu
 

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If you're in denial, there's , but if you're asking conceptually, he was never planned to lose either of his eyes, so something like that wouldn't have occurred in Kishimoto's mind.

No one initially plans to lose their eyes, but at times it happens regardless. It's not a matter of denial, it's a matter of inconsistency which even you cannot predict what kishi plans to do next, even with this new series he's supervising.
Sasuke can use kagutsuchi without amaterasu
If you're in denial, there's , but if you're asking conceptually, he was never planned to lose either of his eyes, so something like that wouldn't have occurred in Kishimoto's mind.
^^Tell that to this guy.^^
 

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Exactly, so if MS Sasuke's left eye was crushed or stolen. His right MS eye would be useless because there is no amatersu by what you're implying? You're saying he needs his left eye in order for him to use his right, otherwise without it he can't use his right eye at all.
you are getting it wrong. without his left eye, he wont be able to spawn the flames on the target, thats is amaterasu. however he can create the flames (hes shown to do this) and shape them with his right eye so its not useless, he can use the flames independent of amaterasu, he just wouldnt be able to spawn them on the target. if he has his left eye however and not his right, then he wont be able to shape the flames.
 

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No it wouldn't, he just wouldn't be able to cast Amaterasu on a target but he would still be able to generate the flame because his brain is what produces Sharingan chakra.
Holy God disagrees. And it's only the right eye that can produce the black flames.
If you're in denial, there's , but if you're asking conceptually, he was never planned to lose either of his eyes, so something like that wouldn't have occurred in Kishimoto's mind.
 

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you are getting it wrong. without his left eye, he wont be able to spawn the flames on the target, thats is amaterasu. however he can create the flames (hes shown to do this) and shape them with his right eye so its not useless, he can use the flames independent of amaterasu, he just wouldnt be able to spawn them on the target. if he has his left eye however and not his right, then he wont be able to shape the flames.
Wrong guy.
I was the guy that said Sasuke can use flame control without his left eye.
 

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No one initially plans to lose their eyes, but at times it happens regardless. It's not a matter of denial, it's a matter of inconsistency which even you cannot predict what kishi plans to do next, even with this new series he's supervising.

When I said "planning", I was referring to Kishimoto, not Sasuke. It wouldn't matter if his Mangekyou would be useless because there wouldn't be a time when his left would be removed. That could very well change because now his left is a valuable Rinnegan, but that'd simply remove his ability to use black flames, which isn't much of a hindrance.
 

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No one initially plans to lose their eyes, but at times it happens regardless. It's not a matter of denial, it's a matter of inconsistency which even you cannot predict what kishi plans to do next, even with this new series he's supervising.


^^Tell that to this guy.^^
I will*_*

If you're in denial, there's , but if you're asking conceptually, he was never planned to lose either of his eyes, so something like that wouldn't have occurred in Kishimoto's mind.

He doesnt really need amaterasu to use enton.

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Beside his susanoo can produce the black flames
 

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He doesnt really need amaterasu to use enton.

Blaze Style: Kagutsuchi only works to create flames when used through contacting chakra, which is why he needed to use Amaterasu when trapped in ice.
 

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Blaze Style: Kagutsuchi only works to create flames when used through contacting chakra, which is why he needed to use Amaterasu when trapped in ice.

I still dont really get what you meant but I think the reason for that case is that amaterasu produced more flame to control compare to when he used kagutsuchi alone.
In any case, that still doesnt refute the fact of him using kagutsuchi without amaterasu.
 

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I still dont really get what you meant but I think the reason for that case is that amaterasu produced more flame to control compare to when he used kagutsuchi alone.
In any case, that still doesnt refute the fact of him using kagutsuchi without amaterasu.

I never said he needed Amaterasu to use Blaze Style: Kagutsuchi; they're two different techniques.
 

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I never said he needed Amaterasu to use Blaze Style: Kagutsuchi; they're two different techniques.

Sorry, I thought you meant that he need his left eye (Amaterasu) to use kagutsuchi.
 
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