Who're you voting for?

[Hachiman]

Add another option Minamoto

 

[Sex]

Both are trash.

 

[Lightbringer]

Well if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, then Jill Stein for sure.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Well if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, then Jill Stein for sure.

You really don't like Hillary don't you?

 

[Lightbringer]

You really don't like Hillary don't you?

Why would I? She is the embodiment of an oppressive oligarchy.

Not only that but throughout the entire presidential run, she has pulled the strings in the election including voter suppression.


Jill Stein represents what Bernie Sanders represents and she's running as part of the Green Party which does not accept donations from corporations or super PACs.

 

[Omega]

I'm voting for Bill clinton's 3rd term. Seriously tho, I'm not voting

 

[Lightbringer]

I'm voting for Bill clinton's 3rd term. Seriously tho, I'm not voting

There's an independent candidate running. So you won't have to choose just between Hillary and Trump.

Jill Stein is just as progressive as Bernie Sanders is.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Why would I? She is the embodiment of an oppressive oligarchy.

Not only that but throughout the entire presidential run, she has pulled the strings in the election including voter suppression.


Jill Stein represents what Bernie Sanders represents and she's running as part of the Green Party which does not accept donations from corporations or super PACs.

But even Bernie vows to fully support Hillary in order to defeat Trump:

Emerging from the White House after a meeting with Obama that lasted more than an hour, Sanders warned that a Trump presidency would be a "disaster" and that he would "work as hard as I can to make sure that Donald Trump does not become president of the United States."

"I look forward to meeting with (Clinton) in the near future to see how we can work together to defeat Donald Trump and to create a government which represents all of us and not just the 1%," Sanders told reporters.

If the Democrats don't unite behind Clinton, you'll all be handing the presidency to The Donald on a silver platter.

 

[Lightbringer]

But even Bernie vows to fully support Hillary in order to defeat Trump:




If the Democrats don't unite behind Clinton, you'll all be handing the presidency to The Donald on a silver platter.

He only said that after the talk with Obama and he didn't fully endorse her. I believe the only reason he'd support her is because the establishment agreed to implement some of Bernie's policies such as the $15 minimum wage.

Even still, Bernie Sanders hasn't dropped out yet and I believe he will stick with his plan and fight his way up to the convention.

Either choice is almost equally horrible. Hillary is in favor of the TPP. If Trump doesn't destory America, that will.

Republicans are voting for Trump because they hate Hillary. Democrats are voting for Hillary because they hate Trump. See the dilemma?

 

[slimreaper]

What makes Trump better?

Idgaf. vote for who you want. Both are ass anyway.


#anythingbutbernie

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

Why is gary johnson not in the poll.. he's on the ballet in all 50 states, he's polling 11% in the polls he's included, if he gets 15% in the polls he will be included in the debates and then he will just plainly win.
And then somewhere along time he'll die of a mountain climbing "accident" or whatever and bill weld will take over.

 

[I Am Richard]

It doesn't matter who is in power, as long as America supports Israel, I am fine with whoever becomes President.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He only said that after the talk with Obama and he didn't fully endorse her. I believe the only reason he'd support her is because the establishment agreed to implement some of Bernie's policies such as the $15 minimum wage.

Even still, Bernie Sanders hasn't dropped out yet and I believe he will stick with his plan and fight his way up to the convention.

Either choice is almost equally horrible. Hillary is in favor of the TPP. If Trump doesn't destory America, that will.

Republicans are voting for Trump because they hate Hillary. Democrats are voting for Hillary because they hate Trump. See the dilemma?

It is not a dilemma, it's political reality and most of all practicality, voting for third parties are just wasted votes.

 

[Lightbringer]

It is not a dilemma, it's political reality and most of all practicality, voting for third parties are just wasted votes.

What's the practicality here? Voting for the somewhat lesser of two evils so that the lesser evil will inevitably become the greater evil?

The political reality is that Hillary already did much of what Trump is criticized to do. Even if Trump is still worse, Hillary is not much better. She's a corporatist through and through.

Just look at her record. It's appalling.

And I highly doubt she'd commit to her promises of fighting against climate change when she supported fracking in her past and also took money from big oil.

Not only that, but Hillary Clinton supports the TPP. Again, that is by far the most horrific trade deal soon to be past.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The political reality is that Hillary already did much of what Trump is criticized to do. Even if Trump is still worse, she's not much better.

Just look at her record. It's appalling.

- Clinton Healthcare Plan was precursor to Affodable Healthcare Act

- Played a crucial role in creating the State Children’s Health Insurance Program

- The Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act.

- Increased funding for research on prostate cancer and asthma at the NIH

- Created the office on Violence Against Women on the DOJ

- Secured over $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.

- Played a leading role in working out a bi-partisan compromise to address civil liberty abuses for the renewal of the U.S. Patriot Act.

- Supervised Free trade agreements with allied countries like South Korea, Columbia and Panama

- Initiative Programs offered by the Clinton Foundation.

 

[Lightbringer]

- Clinton Healthcare Plan was precursor to Affodable Healthcare Act

- Played a crucial role in creating the State Children’s Health Insurance Program

- The Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act.

- Increased funding for research on prostate cancer and asthma at the NIH

- Created the office on Violence Against Women on the DOJ

- Secured over $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.

- Played a leading role in working out a bi-partisan compromise to address civil liberty abuses for the renewal of the U.S. Patriot Act.

- Supervised Free trade agreements with allied countries like South Korea, Columbia and Panama

- Initiative Programs offered by the Clinton Foundation.

I feel like you just copied and pasted this without knowing the actual context of the policies you've listed.

Even still, the negatives outweigh the positives. The repercussions from her schemes affected this country significantly. I can make the argument that even Fidel Castro did good things for his country. That doesn't mean he's excused from everything else.

During Bill's presidency, there were more incarcerations in the U.S. than anywhere in the world of which most were African American individuals and they majority of the crimes were marijuana possession. It was statistically proven that whites had the same rates as drug possession as black people, but instead it were the African Americans that were prosecuted.

The Clintons took advantage of this later to claim that job rates were at an all time high for African Americans, omitting the fact that a great number of them were incarcerated.

Then you have Hillary's foreign policy "experience" which were all blunders. She supported the Iraq war for goodness sake. Hillary was against gay marriage until she flip-flopped. Hillary's positions always seem to reflect the money that she takes from the corporations.

For instance, she used to be for universal healthcare, like Bernie Sanders, and even stated that it was immoral to argue against it. Yet after she took money from the pharmaceutical companies, she instead changed her rhetoric to privatize healthcare.

The Clintons were responsible for deregulating Wall-Street which created this economic crisis we are currently in. Because Bill Clinton repealed "Glass Steagall," the banks are able to gamble with the people's money through "investment banking" and when they lose it, which 9/10 times they do, they are not held accountable.

Hillary Clinton helped pass the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2001. The number of bankruptcy filings had risen in the 1990s, and the legislation would have made it harder for people to wipe out their unsecured debts, including credit card debts. The legislation was avidly sought by the banking and credit card industries; its supporters said it would rein in abuse of the bankruptcy system that had driven up the cost of borrowing.

Hillary Clinton accepted money from foreign governments, supporting warlords and tyrants in the process. Regime change is a big hobby of hers. Just look at Libya. The aftermath in Libya created a vacuum for ISIS to step in.

Hillary had a private server, which she is currently being investigated and possibly indicted for. It's not just emails, a private server is a whole other degree of suspicious activity. It is something to be seriously worried about and the FBI claim to have some very strong evidence against her.

Hillary is also in favor of the TPP, which is a legislation that will ruin this country and that is not sugar-coating it. Basically others countries will have the ability to overrule American policies if it affects their business by having a tribunal. That potentially includes violating the constitution and also limiting internet freedom.

Part of the TPP was including countries such as Malaysia, which coincidentally have had their status removed by the U.S. from its list of the world’s worst human trafficking offenders in order to participate in this trade agreement.

I can list more, but I think you get the picture. She is evil at heart, no matter how you look at it.

Trump is indeed still worse. But the best comparison I can make is that Trump is the embodiment of chaos and total ruin for this country, whereas Hillary Clinton is the very essence of an oligarchy.


That's why if Bernie Sanders does not take the nomination, I'm voting for Jill Stein who is indeed a genuine and good alternative.

 

[V h o]

Bern or hill. I can't understand why people vote trump.

Edit

I may research this jill candidate

 

[Funky Tiger]

cant stump the trump

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I feel like you just copied and pasted this without knowing the actual context of the policies you've listed.

Even still, the negatives outweigh the positives. The repercussions from her schemes affected this country significantly. I can make the argument that even Fidel Castro did good things for his country. That doesn't mean he's excused from everything else.

During Bill's presidency, there were more incarcerations in the U.S. than anywhere in the world of which most were African American individuals and they majority of the crimes were marijuana possession. It was statistically proven that whites had the same rates as drug possession as black people, but instead it were the African Americans that were prosecuted.

The Clintons took advantage of this later to claim that job rates were at an all time high for African Americans, omitting the fact that a great number of them were incarcerated.

Then you have Hillary's foreign policy "experience" which were all blunders. She supported the Iraq war for goodness sake. Hillary was against gay marriage until she flip-flopped. Hillary's positions always seem to reflect the money that she takes from the corporations.

For instance, she used to be for universal healthcare, like Bernie Sanders, and even stated that it was immoral to argue against it. Yet after she took money from the pharmaceutical companies, she instead changed her rhetoric to privatize healthcare.

The Clintons were responsible for deregulating Wall-Street which created this economic crisis we are currently in. Because Bill Clinton repealed "Glass Steagall," the banks are able to gamble with the people's money through "investment banking" and when they lose it, which 9/10 times they do, they are not held accountable.

Hillary Clinton helped pass the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2001. The number of bankruptcy filings had risen in the 1990s, and the legislation would have made it harder for people to wipe out their unsecured debts, including credit card debts. The legislation was avidly sought by the banking and credit card industries; its supporters said it would rein in abuse of the bankruptcy system that had driven up the cost of borrowing.

Hillary Clinton accepted money from foreign governments, supporting warlords and tyrants in the process. Regime change is a big hobby of hers. Just look at Libya. The aftermath in Libya created a vacuum for ISIS to step in.

Hillary had a private server, which she is currently being investigated and possibly indicted for. It's not just emails, a private server is a whole other degree of suspicious activity. It is something to be seriously worried about and the FBI claim to have some very strong evidence against her.

Hillary is also in favor of the TPP, which is a legislation that will ruin this country and that is not sugar-coating it. Basically others countries will have the ability to overrule American policies if it affects their business by having a tribunal. That potentially includes violating the constitution and also limiting internet freedom.

Part of the TPP was including countries such as Malaysia, which coincidentally have had their status removed by the U.S. from its list of the world’s worst human trafficking offenders in order to participate in this trade agreement.

I can list more, but I think you get the picture. She is evil at heart, no matter how you look at it.

Trump is indeed still worse. But the best comparison I can make is that Trump is the embodiment of chaos and total ruin for this country, whereas Hillary Clinton is the very essence of an oligarchy.


That's why if Bernie Sanders does not take the nomination, I'm voting for Jill Stein who is indeed a genuine and good alternative.

The number of imprisonments was already increasing as early as the Nixon Administration since it was the era when the number of arrests exponentially increased and court sentencing usually involved prison times, years and years before the '94 bill. As for the War on Iraq, the Congress and the Senate (which includes Clinton) at that time gave overwhelming support for Bush Jr. to wage war but strictly under the terms of the War Powers Act, if there were violations in the conditions imposed by the said act during the course of the war, then it is neither the Congress nor the Senate that were at fault but Bush and his war cabinet were since they were the ones who didn't let the UN inspectors do their jobs in searching and determining whether Saddam indeed have WMD.

Universal healthcare through individual or employer's directives is what Clinton supported before, not government sponsorship. The economic crisis was precipitated by multiple factors, the culpability of which is mainly attributed to the big firms Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, etc., the crisis would've happened with or without Glass-Steagall because of shenanigans of these firms. As for Bankruptcy Reform Act, she supported it back in '01 because it stipulated that custodial parents actually get child support, but opposed it later when the '05 version of the legislation removed the said provision.

The money she got from the foreign powers were all donated to her foundation, any foundation receives donations from all walks of life. Like Mother Teresa receiving donations from Duvalier. The email controversy? nothing is proven yet concerning that, even Sanders said in the debate last year to Hillary that "We're sick of hearing about your damn emails!" As for the TPP, she wasn't in full support of it even back when she was Secretary of State because she had reservations, but now she opposes it.

Bernie will not receive the Democratic nomination, but he is willing to work with Hillary for party unification, voting for Stein is pointless as it was in '12.

 

[slimreaper]

I feel like you just copied and pasted this without knowing the actual context of the policies you've listed.

Even still, the negatives outweigh the positives. The repercussions from her schemes affected this country significantly. I can make the argument that even Fidel Castro did good things for his country. That doesn't mean he's excused from everything else.

During Bill's presidency, there were more incarcerations in the U.S. than anywhere in the world of which most were African American individuals and they majority of the crimes were marijuana possession. It was statistically proven that whites had the same rates as drug possession as black people, but instead it were the African Americans that were prosecuted.

The Clintons took advantage of this later to claim that job rates were at an all time high for African Americans, omitting the fact that a great number of them were incarcerated.

Then you have Hillary's foreign policy "experience" which were all blunders. She supported the Iraq war for goodness sake. Hillary was against gay marriage until she flip-flopped. Hillary's positions always seem to reflect the money that she takes from the corporations.

For instance, she used to be for universal healthcare, like Bernie Sanders, and even stated that it was immoral to argue against it. Yet after she took money from the pharmaceutical companies, she instead changed her rhetoric to privatize healthcare.

The Clintons were responsible for deregulating Wall-Street which created this economic crisis we are currently in. Because Bill Clinton repealed "Glass Steagall," the banks are able to gamble with the people's money through "investment banking" and when they lose it, which 9/10 times they do, they are not held accountable.

Hillary Clinton helped pass the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2001. The number of bankruptcy filings had risen in the 1990s, and the legislation would have made it harder for people to wipe out their unsecured debts, including credit card debts. The legislation was avidly sought by the banking and credit card industries; its supporters said it would rein in abuse of the bankruptcy system that had driven up the cost of borrowing.

Hillary Clinton accepted money from foreign governments, supporting warlords and tyrants in the process. Regime change is a big hobby of hers. Just look at Libya. The aftermath in Libya created a vacuum for ISIS to step in.

Hillary had a private server, which she is currently being investigated and possibly indicted for. It's not just emails, a private server is a whole other degree of suspicious activity. It is something to be seriously worried about and the FBI claim to have some very strong evidence against her.

Hillary is also in favor of the TPP, which is a legislation that will ruin this country and that is not sugar-coating it. Basically others countries will have the ability to overrule American policies if it affects their business by having a tribunal. That potentially includes violating the constitution and also limiting internet freedom.

Part of the TPP was including countries such as Malaysia, which coincidentally have had their status removed by the U.S. from its list of the world’s worst human trafficking offenders in order to participate in this trade agreement.

I can list more, but I think you get the picture. She is evil at heart, no matter how you look at it.

Trump is indeed still worse. But the best comparison I can make is that Trump is the embodiment of chaos and total ruin for this country, whereas Hillary Clinton is the very essence of an oligarchy.


That's why if Bernie Sanders does not take the nomination, I'm voting for Jill Stein who is indeed a genuine and good alternative.

No it wasn't "proven" They asked people to self report and white people reported drug use more than blacks did.