[Discussion] Shanks, not enough hype

[marijuanna]

OK, I'm not really stating he is the weakest, just saying his hype is not enough for the common opinion that he is in fact the strongest.

If we think about it, chances are that Shanks was the newest Yonko before BB, he's fairly young and both Big Mom and Kaido seem to be top tier for a while now. So let's do the hype on each one of them.

Kaido

-​Strongest creature, I believe it was said that on a one-on-one fight Kaido always wins
-Huge crew with according to the minks endless ships and over 500 Smileys
-Ridiculous hype on the 3 Calamities
-Immortal
-Rules a country full of Samurai
-Rio Polenglyph

Big MOM

-Highly influencial, seems to have a huge info network, and countless aliances based on her family
-Owns a Nation full of the most variate races and most likely powers
-Weird fairy tale power, no daught it will be something quite rare
-Likely the oldest Yonko
-Gonna be hyped beyond mesure through the new arc
-Rio Polenglyph

Shanks

-Strong crew, both BB and Akainu refrained from clashing with him at Marineford
-Good chances he has the strongest haki ever showed
-Swordsman skills were enough to doodle with Mihawk
-Crazy phisycal strenght, split a cloud once

BB

-2 of the strongest DFs on him
-10 titanic captains
-Seems to know how to steal and pass Dfs around
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-2 major wins against Revolutionaries and WB's leftovers
-Bound to be one of the strongest characters by the end of the series

The point is Shanks is strong, but a beat up BB and Akainu steping aside is something any Yonko would cause at the time. His crew always shows up together and on a single ship, plus not a single pirate crew was showed to work under them, might be less influencial then the others. He might have the strongest haki, maybe. But so far nothing unique was showed, he's not even the strongest swordsman. Might take newbie BB, but he pales in comparison to the other Yonko.

 

[narutojunky]

It's been super hard to tell if there is a ranking among the Yonko, like with the Warlords.

I'm more prone to believe that they are all fairly equal in power and clout.

But if he is more like Luffy and is interested in freedom instead of power then he may not carry the tools in his tool kit that you described so well.

If he was weaker why would Kaido or Big Mam or even BB not just make the push and claim his territory?

The imagination struggles to understand the level of total power, cunning and diplomacy any of the Yanko hold.

It's hard to guess who will be the "final boss" and how Shanks will fit in and how his performance will affect Luffy directly.

Will Shanks fall?

If he does will it be to Blackbeard or Akainu?

Or will Luffy never let another friend die?

Either way I hope we get one fight where we see Shanks flatten someone super tough.

The promise of his awesomeness is just too great to not demonstrate visually.

 

[ichirou]

The scene where he went and clashed with Whitebeard "The Strongest Man Alive" and was on par with him is enough to prove his hype. But if its not enough for u then let me state more things he did to prove his worth.

1.) BB waited for WB to be in a very weakened state before clashing with him and even at that point they had a hard time facing WB and they even needed the whole crew to take him down. Whereas Shanks clashed with WB on his ship one on one and alone on WB's ship (with WB's commanders with him).

2.)Shanks fended of Kaido which was said to be very strong that in a 1v1 battle the outcome would be Kaido victorious.

3.)He plays with the Strongest Swordsman with only one hand.

4.)Fended off Akainus attack with no hassle when Akainu tried to kill Coby.

Shanks is just enjoying the benefits of being a yonkou unlike other yonkous who are trying hard to get to raftel. If he wanted it would be easy for him to be Pirate king same as Whitebeard but they didnt because it wasnt their goal. WB wanted Ace to be PK while Shanks is waiting for Luffy to be PK.

Shanks is the weakest yonkou in terms of threat and territory but he is on par or even stronger than Kaido in terms of Strength.

 

[ToshiZO]

He could easily be the weakest Yonkou. That isn't saying much though as that's the pinnacle of One Piece.

 

[Like Naruto]

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[A v i]

Roger ruled the seas with single ship. So, I expect no less from Shanks.

 

[bajram]

BB is eventually going to surpass all the Yonko's power and status wise, currently Kaido is implied to be the strongest person living including the Yonkos and everyone else so he is literally the WB of the post-TS not saying he is as strong but definitely stronger than anyone in the world currently so it comes down to Shanks and Big Mom, I think Shanks is a stronger overall pirate due to his story relevance also Big Mom being the weakest Yonko has been implied a lot by the fanbase and I dont think that Big Mom has that much of hype individually speaking.

I never really got why people "wank" Shanks so much anyway, Yonkos are the pinnacle of the pirate world strength wise so him not being the strongest doesnt mean anything since the gaps in powers should already be too little between the Yonkos.

 

[pnbhatta]

The scene where he went and clashed with Whitebeard "The Strongest Man Alive" and was on par with him is enough to prove his hype. But if its not enough for u then let me state more things he did to prove his worth.

1.) BB waited for WB to be in a very weakened state before clashing with him and even at that point they had a hard time facing WB and they even needed the whole crew to take him down. Whereas Shanks clashed with WB on his ship one on one and alone on WB's ship (with WB's commanders with him).

2.)Shanks fended of Kaido which was said to be very strong that in a 1v1 battle the outcome would be Kaido victorious.

3.)He plays with the Strongest Swordsman with only one hand.

4.)Fended off Akainus attack with no hassle when Akainu tried to kill Coby.

Shanks is just enjoying the benefits of being a yonkou unlike other yonkous who are trying hard to get to raftel. If he wanted it would be easy for him to be Pirate king same as Whitebeard but they didnt because it wasnt their goal. WB wanted Ace to be PK while Shanks is waiting for Luffy to be PK.

Shanks is the weakest yonkou in terms of threat and territory but he is on par or even stronger than Kaido in terms of Strength.

Totally agree

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

The scene where he went and clashed with Whitebeard "The Strongest Man Alive" and was on par with him is enough to prove his hype. But if its not enough for u then let me state more things he did to prove his worth.

1.) BB waited for WB to be in a very weakened state before clashing with him and even at that point they had a hard time facing WB and they even needed the whole crew to take him down. Whereas Shanks clashed with WB on his ship one on one and alone on WB's ship (with WB's commanders with him).

2.)Shanks fended of Kaido which was said to be very strong that in a 1v1 battle the outcome would be Kaido victorious.

3.)He plays with the Strongest Swordsman with only one hand.

4.)Fended off Akainus attack with no hassle when Akainu tried to kill Coby.

Shanks is just enjoying the benefits of being a yonkou unlike other yonkous who are trying hard to get to raftel. If he wanted it would be easy for him to be Pirate king same as Whitebeard but they didnt because it wasnt their goal. WB wanted Ace to be PK while Shanks is waiting for Luffy to be PK.

Shanks is the weakest yonkou in terms of threat and territory but he is on par or even stronger than Kaido in terms of Strength.

when did he fend off kaido??? if ur talking marineford ur saying shanks fought kaido and still had enough time to come to the war???? thats delusional most likely they did not fight and Shanks talked kaido out of the attack...

 

[Bogard]

The weakest yonko is probably Big Mom. Her entire hype comes more from her influencial power than individual strength. Besides she is a woman yonko. I really doubt Oda would place an important character like Shanks below her. Kaido already serve that purpose and Blackbeard is destinated to target him. Big Mom is just there...

 

[TheTrueSoloGod]

Shanks is the strongest of the Yonko.. also he is the last Yonko which Luffy said will fight.. into a shounen manga l, the last oponent is the strongest

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Talk about "The Strongest Creature Alive" who couldn't get to Marineford because of some red hair dude. And this red hair guy came to Marineford and still can do a$$ whoopin.

 

[ichirou]

when did he fend off kaido??? if ur talking marineford ur saying shanks fought kaido and still had enough time to come to the war???? thats delusional most likely they did not fight and Shanks talked kaido out of the attack...

We are both stating our opinions here since we dont really know how Shanks took care of Kaido. Even so there could be many ways of "fending" Kaido and controlling the "beast" makes Shanks even more badass.

I see Kaido as a man who gets want he wants and wont stop until he takes it, yet Shanks stopped him at his tracks and forced him not to pursue WB which is a feat not any pirate can do or any other yonkou could have done.

 

[ItachiOfKonoha]

when did he fend off kaido??? if ur talking marineford ur saying shanks fought kaido and still had enough time to come to the war???? thats delusional most likely they did not fight and Shanks talked kaido out of the attack...

don't forget law stated that kaido is not the type of person that negotiate so how will talking help in this matter

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

don't forget law stated that kaido is not the type of person that negotiate so how will talking help in this matter

It also said during mane ford that kaido is greedy etc but here we see the dude is complete opposite he's suicidal


I feel oda changed kaido right before introducing him like

Wouldn't it make sense for kaido to fight shanks (who ever win will be no less then high diff) then sail to his death by going to the war where the admirals fleet admiral garp whitebeard have shot at just killing him


How they portrayed him before his debute is not how he seemed to be
And if he's not type to negotiate why is appo alive ???

Also his entire underground buisness is negotiation at its finest

Even his complete design changed everyone else stayed same even big mam kaido looked like he would be big beast looking hunch back like midget

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

The points you have on Big Mam where not mentioned in the manga, you came up with that. So besides the RP, Shanks has a better hype than big mam.

 

[konoha Sev7n]

Shanks hype is that he must of found pirate book of dirty secret that he can exposed on other to do this or that..lol this influences