[Discussion] If onepiece is in the same category of elfen lied or those brutal animes.

[Like Naruto]

Would it be awesome if onepiece is like that, kinda like elfen lied or attack on titans. Like when zoro is serious to kill someone, those three sword style techniques would split the guy in 3 halfs... Or when whitebeard smash that giant's heads up like blood and stuff flying everywhere.... Or when dofi use up his birdcage and we see someone cut into half... Or when sanji kick someone in the jaw and he literally break it completely. Etc etc. what di you guys think?

 

[Lance171]

Huh idk, I think one piece is pretty perfect i don't think oda needs that kind of visual when the plot is so entertaing

 

[HashiraMadara]

Well in the Manga whitebeard died with half of his skull burnt and gone
shanks got bitten with blood dripping over the waters
all of that was removed in the anime for "Parental Advisory"

 

[David1996]

Doesn't work with the manga's theme.

 

[Ricardo]

It's a shounen bro.

hōnen, shonen, or shounen manga (少年漫画 shōnen manga?) is manga aimed at a young male audience. The age group varies with individual readers and different magazines, but it is primarily intended for boys between the ages of 8 to 18.[1] The kanji characters (少年) literally mean "boy" (or "youth"), and the characters (漫画) mean "cartoon" or "comic". Thus, the complete phrase means "young person's comic", or simply "boys' comic". Shōnen manga is the most popular form of manga,[2][3] and the female equivalent to it is shōjo manga.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Would it be awesome if onepiece is like that, kinda like elfen lied or attack on titans. Like when zoro is serious to kill someone, those three sword style techniques would split the guy in 3 halfs... Or when whitebeard smash that giant's heads up like blood and stuff flying everywhere.... Or when dofi use up his birdcage and we see someone cut into half... Or when sanji kick someone in the jaw and he literally break it completely. Etc etc. what di you guys think?

Elfen Lied maybe since it actually is able to balance story with violence but not AoT that's a story driven by it's graphics.

It's a shounen bro.

Yeah but mostly 14-18 year old boys are the ones wanting those blood and guts because it makes them feel grown up

 

[loj]

Is good as it is tbh

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nah, I don't think One Piece would be any better with that kind of stuff.

Elfen Lied maybe since it actually is able to balance story with violence but not AoT that's a story driven by it's graphics.



Yeah but mostly 14-18 year old boys are the ones wanting those blood and guts because it makes them feel grown up

Plot that revolves completely around political corruption and revolution that dominates the current arcs of the Attack on Titan manga say "Hi." Kinda stupid to say AoT's story is graphic driven when the shit looks like this:

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Even fans of the manga have criticized the art.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Nah, I don't think One Piece would be any better with that kind of stuff.



Plot that revolves completely around political corruption and revolution that dominates the current arcs of the Attack on Titan manga say "Hi." Kinda stupid to say AoT's story is graphic driven when the shit looks like this:

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Even fans of the manga have criticized the art.

I didn't say artistically driven I said graphically driven and that panel exemplifies my point, there's not a single part of story on that page just grotesque graphics. It might have an adult plot but it's story is driven by the images from every example I've seen.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I didn't say artistically driven I said graphically driven and that panel exemplifies my point, there's not a single part of story on that page just grotesque graphics. It might have an adult plot but it's story is driven by the images from every example I've seen.

LMAO so you haven't actually experienced the story, you just think it's driven by imagery as opposed to plot because you've seen stills of violence and action? Have you even attempted to delve into the political plot of the manga before you said this?

You're no different than someone who looks at these pages of One Piece and go "It's just violence, there's no story here."

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Your stance that a story is bad if it's driven by the imagery is also dead wrong. See Mad Max: Fury Road for something that is driven primarily by imagery and is ****ing amazing.

 

[ToshiZO]

It could definitely use some deaths. It would be much better if characters actually died. Not enough people really suffer the consequences of their actions in OP in that way.

 

[chopstickchakra]

LMAO so you haven't actually experienced the story, you just think it's driven by imagery as opposed to plot because you've seen stills of violence and action? Have you even attempted to delve into the political plot of the manga before you said this?

You're no different than someone who looks at these pages of One Piece and go "It's just violence, there's no story here."

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Your stance that a story is bad if it's driven by the imagery is also dead wrong. See Mad Max: Fury Road for something that is driven primarily by imagery and is ****ing amazing.

The infamous Riker puts his own conjecture into an argument again. I said "Every example I've seen" You then decided what those examples were. I've read some of the first chapters and I watched the first season, those were reliant on imagery and shock value to gain attention.

I never said a story is bad because it's driven by imagery, all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. I also never said this manga is bad I said I wouldn't like OP to follow it's style since from what I've seen it favors shock value imagery over story. That doesn't mean as you've assumed I'm saying there's no story to it, it means the creators put the emphasis on the images over the story. I may not enjoy it but please do show me where I said it was bad.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The infamous Riker puts his own conjecture into an argument again. I said "Every example I've seen" Riker always misunderstanding me z.z

Which is why I asked you if you've delved into the political plot and if those examples were just violent. Those weren't rhetorical questions.

I've read some of the first chapters and I watched the first season, those were reliant on imagery and shock value to gain attention.

Well you've practically seen it all then.

I also never said a story is bad because it's driven by imagery I said this manga is bad because it favors imagery over story. All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

This is what you said:

It might have an adult plot but it's story is driven by the images from every example I've seen.

This can literally only mean that being driven by images is bad. You never it's bad because it favors imagery over story, you say "it might have a plot, but it's driven by imagery." That can only mean even if it tells the story through imagery, it's bad because, hey, it's through imagery.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Which is why I asked you if you've delved into the political plot and if those examples were just violent. Those weren't rhetorical questions.


Well you've practically seen it all then.



This is what you said:


This can literally only mean that being driven by images is bad. You never it's bad because it favors imagery over story, you say "it might have a plot, but it's driven by imagery." That can only mean even if it tells the story through imagery, it's bad because, hey, it's through imagery.

Word of advice then, if a question isn't rhetorical you probably shouldn't lead with a capitalized lmao. Kind of adds a tone of condescension to your post but I suspect you knew that when you were doing it hmm?

literally, it can literally only have one meaning and that meaning is the one assigned by the reader not the author of the quote hmm? Interesting. You know that's bs right. Right? What that meant was though it may have an adult theme at it's core it is not carried as a plot-centric work it's carried as an action work. You're example of Mad Max was good, there's action movies like that and then there's plot-centric movies like The Master; one focuses on imagery first then themes the other focuses on themes before excitement. Neither style is inherently bad or good it depends on the execution. If you're gonna continue to argue your interpretations of others words then you should at least ask them to verify if your assumption was correct rather than just barreling through the conversation under the impression it is.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Word of advice then, if a question isn't rhetorical you probably shouldn't lead with a capitalized lmao. Kind of adds a tone of condescension to your post but I suspect you knew that when you were doing it hmm?

I said it wasn't rhetorical, not that it wasn't condescending.

literally, it can literally only have one meaning and that meaning is the one assigned by the reader not the author of the quote hmm?

You misunderstand. I know what you want it to mean, but the way it's written only has one meaning. You said "Hey, it might have a mature plot, but it's driven by imagery." Because you didn't include "It's driven by imagery as opposed to" or "driven by imagery causing (insert narrative element here" to be reduced," the phrasing means "Driven by imagery is bad." Your wording was universal, not conditional.

Interesting. You know that's bs right. Right? What that meant was though it may have an adult theme at it's core it is not carried as a plot-centric work it's carried as an action work. You're example of Mad Max was good, there's action movies like that and then there's plot-centric movies like The Master; one focuses on imagery first then themes the other focuses on themes before excitement. Neither style is inherently bad or good it depends on the execution. If you're gonna continue to argue your interpretations of others words then you should at least ask them to verify if your assumption was correct rather than just barreling through the conversation under the impression it is.

The problem here is you think it's either-or. It's not. Mad Max and Attack on Titan aren't works that trade up telling the story because they focus on imagery, they tell the story through a focus on imagery. The plot is developed through action, not in spite of the action, or vice versa. Which is your problem with AoT is nonexistent.

 

[Hexuze]

It doesn't fit OP.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Elfen Lied maybe since it actually is able to balance story with violence but not AoT that's a story driven by it's graphics.



Yeah but mostly 14-18 year old boys are the ones wanting those blood and guts because it makes them feel grown up

How is AoT driven only by its graphics?

 

[chopstickchakra]

How is AoT driven only by its graphics?

Because it's an average story that relied on graphic depictions and shock value to entice readers into trying it. The majority of it's fan base is there because the author chose to draw over the top violent scenes rather than a well crafted story. As I've explained above it's not a bad story but it's not a great one and it relies on the imagery to sustain it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

How is AoT driven only by its graphics?

Dude, he's seen one season and read like four chapters. Does he sound like he doesn't know what he's talking about?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Gore doesnt make something better. For one piece, it would definately make it worse.