Now its Obvious Kishi couldn't do it

[Meowazziel]

So as per the manga, Hagoromo split the Juubi into Bijuus when he was old whereas in the filler he created them as soon as he took conrol of the juubi. So you're ready to accept the anime deviating from the canon and creating shitty fillers, then I am done with you.

This is incorrect.
Maybe you need to reread the manga. Something you keep saying to several people in this thread.

Many people in the manga have said things about Hagoromo. Not all of those things are true.
Some considered him a myth for example.

It is not true that the sage split the bijou up on his deathbed/when he was old.
That is one of those things that is mentioned, that didnt turn out to be true in the manga after all.

Kurama said in the manga (in fourth shinobi war) how the Sage had continued to live for a long time, after splitting up the juubi into the 9 bijou. He was able to continue to live for long due to the Gedo Mazo. This is around the part where the bijou get extracted out of Obito.
So Hagoromo didnt do it right before he died on old age as was said in an earlier stage of the series.

This makes sense that he has split the chakra of the juubi up in 9 bijou while having the Gedo in him.

The bijou in the last anime episode where super tiny babies who were sleeping, smaller than one's hand,
whereas when Hagoromo was a lot older in the manga, they were about as tall as a building. Still chibi looking, but way bigger.

The Anime episodes about Hagoromo dont bring any inconsistensies regarding this.
They confirm, rather than bringing inconsistensies.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

This is incorrect.
Maybe you need to reread the manga. Something you keep saying to several people in this thread.

Many people in the manga have said things about Hagoromo. Not all of those things are true.
Some considered him a myth for example.

It is not true that the sage split the bijou up on his deathbed/when he was old.
That is one of those things that is mentioned, that didnt turn out to be true in the manga after all.

Kurama said in the manga (in fourth shinobi war) how the Sage had continued to live for a long time, after splitting up the juubi into the 9 bijou. He was able to continue to live for long due to the Gedo Mazo. This is around the part where the bijou get extracted out of Obito.
So Hagoromo didnt do it right before he died on old age as was said in an earlier stage of the series.

This makes sense that he has split the chakra of the juubi up in 9 bijou while having the Gedo in him.

The bijou in the last anime episode where super tiny babies who were sleeping, smaller than one's hand,
whereas when Hagoromo was a lot older in the manga, they were about as tall as a building. Still chibi looking, but way bigger.

The Anime episodes about Hagoromo dont bring any inconsistensies regarding this.
They confirm, rather than bringing inconsistensies.

Alright bro, I am done with this thread anyway. You can think whatever you like but I don't have to agree with you.

 

[YamaTex]

Just wanted to come in and say this

I saw the other thread started by 123 or whatever, about the Hago creating/absorbing/scattering/etc.. the tailed beasts

IMO he lost that debate CLEARLY. Like come on man, the manga IS different. Sure they are MINUSCULE differences, but differences nonetheless.


Then today I come in here and see this thread started by the same guy trying to pass off OBVIOUS filler as canon. THEN went even far as to CREATE a scenario where Kishi called the studio and said "hmm you know what, I didn't get to tell the story the right way, please change it to where it doesn't fit with the manga. k thanks:sdo: "

Get over it man, stop trying to reinforce your other thread with this pointless arguing.

 

[Meowazziel]

Alright bro, I am done with this thread anyway. You can think whatever you like but I don't have to agree with you.

Its not me ''thinking whatever I like''

You remembered one of the earlier stories about Hagoromo in the manga. One that wasnt fully complete/not fully correct. Therefore you thought it was inconsistent with the anime, but it is not inconsistent.

Later in the fourth shinobi world war we were provided with more info by Kurama.
Like how the sage had lived long, through the gedo mazo lifeforce. after the bijou creation.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Its not me ''thinking whatever I like''

You remembered one of the earlier stories about Hagoromo in the manga. One that wasnt fully complete/not fully correct. Therefore you thought it was inconsistent with the anime, but it is not inconsistent.

Later in the fourth shinobi world war we were provided with more info by Kurama.
Like how the sage had lived long, through the gedo mazo lifeforce. after the bijou creation.

Alright. I am in no mood for a discussion so could you drop it.

 

[Amazeballs]

So as per the manga, Hagoromo split the Juubi into Bijuus when he was old whereas in the filler he created them as soon as he took conrol of the juubi. So you're ready to accept the anime deviating from the canon and creating shitty fillers, then I am done with you.



I never said they didn't genius.



Thank you. Though the stupidity would never end.

Technically, Hagoromo splitting the Bijuus in the anime isn't really inconsistent with the manga. We only saw him release the (much larger) baby Bijuu when he was old in the manga; nothing says that he didn't already have them divided within him. All of the statements about how he divided the Juubi on his deathbed could just as easily refer to him releasing the nine Bijuu at that time; the result is pretty much the same. In the anime, he placed the Bijuu back within himself after creating them.

It's stretching it, but it's not the biggest inconsistency in the recent SP storyline. I'm much more troubled by the fact that Hagoromo and Hamura faced both Kaguya and the Juubi at the same time, when in the manga Hagoromo believed that the Juubi was rampaging to take back Kaguya's chakra. In the anime, it seemed clear that Kaguya was controlling the Juubi, and that she was fighting alongside it.

 

[The Necromancer]

Kishi isn't stupid enough to contradict his own manga as badly as these fillers not only contradicted the manga universe they take place in, but the anime filler episodes themselves.

They literally contradicted themselves in only 2 episodes. How hard is their job, honestly?

 

[Floydical]

This is incorrect.
Maybe you need to reread the manga. Something you keep saying to several people in this thread.

Many people in the manga have said things about Hagoromo. Not all of those things are true.
Some considered him a myth for example.

It is not true that the sage split the bijou up on his deathbed/when he was old.
That is one of those things that is mentioned, that didnt turn out to be true in the manga after all.

Kurama said in the manga (in fourth shinobi war) how the Sage had continued to live for a long time, after splitting up the juubi into the 9 bijou. He was able to continue to live for long due to the Gedo Mazo. This is around the part where the bijou get extracted out of Obito.
So Hagoromo didnt do it right before he died on old age as was said in an earlier stage of the series.

This makes sense that he has split the chakra of the juubi up in 9 bijou while having the Gedo in him.

The bijou in the last anime episode where super tiny babies who were sleeping, smaller than one's hand,
whereas when Hagoromo was a lot older in the manga, they were about as tall as a building. Still chibi looking, but way bigger.

The Anime episodes about Hagoromo dont bring any inconsistensies regarding this.
They confirm, rather than bringing inconsistensies.

Thank you for this. I'm going to re-read that part of the manga because I know I breezed over sections where Kurama was talking assuming it didn't mean much. The explanation earlier in the manga about the sage splitting them on his deathbed was odd to begin with. Before his face was revealed, we saw him walking and communicating to the beasts in child form which means he lived after splitting them. Kurama's memories of him also add to the evidence. I think the anime's scenario makes sense.

Kishi isn't stupid enough to contradict his own manga as badly as these fillers not only contradicted the manga universe they take place in, but the anime filler episodes themselves.

They literally contradicted themselves in only 2 episodes. How hard is their job, honestly?

True, true. Unlike most people on here, you seem to be quite consistent with your analyses. Either way, I liked this set of fillers (4 episodes I think?) until the last episode. Even with the last episode's shortcomings, I liked it overall and felt it was MOSTLY logical and clarifying.

 

[Holy God]

I personally don't know what people find in these episodes anyways. What is it including that we so desperately needed to know? Kaguya's partner? He's an irrelevant human that simply helped in the creation of twins. How Hagoromo awakened his powers? Unimportant and the anime did it wrong anyways. Hagoromo never injured his brother, he doesn't have the Sharingan, and Kaguya can't control people without using her RinneSharingan.

We already know what we need to. Kaguya is an alien who mated with a human and had twins mutated by chakra. These twins grew up in a world under the control of Kaguya. As they (or specifically Hagoromo) went on to share chakra, a power-hungry Kaguya merged with the Holy Tree to receive the chakra they took from her. Unknowingly to the twins, they seal their mother and extract the chakra from her into Hagoromo, making him the Sage of Six Paths. Hagoromo had children who began to fight after one of them being chosen as the successor of Ninshuu, whom also inspired Hagoromo to split the ten-tails at that moment and teach the individual parts to love. That's all there is to it and all we need.

 

[nefraiko]

if that was the case the plot would have been written in a good way

 

[123fire]

I personally don't know what people find in these episodes anyways. What is it including that we so desperately needed to know? Kaguya's partner? He's an irrelevant human that simply helped in the creation of twins. How Hagoromo awakened his powers? Unimportant and the anime did it wrong anyways. Hagoromo never injured his brother, he doesn't have the Sharingan, and Kaguya can't control people without using her RinneSharingan.

We already know what we need to. Kaguya is an alien who mated with a human and had twins mutated by chakra. These twins grew up in a world under the control of Kaguya. As they (or specifically Hagoromo) went on to share chakra, a power-hungry Kaguya merged with the Holy Tree to receive the chakra they took from her. Unknowingly to the twins, they seal their mother and extract the chakra from her into Hagoromo, making him the Sage of Six Paths. Hagoromo had children who began to fight after one of them being chosen as the successor of Ninshuu, whom also inspired Hagoromo to split the ten-tails at that moment and teach the individual parts to love. That's all there is to it and all we need.

Its known in anime everything that happens is explained im details especially in naruto , for example Madara , Hashirama , Obito , Nagato , kabuto all of them had flashback backstory! Why not Kaguya too? This is the way Naruto is every villain is explained not only as narrations but in action and details , kishi didn't do it for Kaguya , the anime did , and YES WE COMPLAINED HOW PALE KAGUYA WAS IN THE MANGA AND NOW SHE HAS A BACKSTORY AND YOU COMPLAIN .

 

[123fire]

Kishi isn't stupid enough to contradict his own manga as badly as these fillers not only contradicted the manga universe they take place in, but the anime filler episodes themselves.

They literally contradicted themselves in only 2 episodes. How hard is their job, honestly?

Tell me the *contradictions* i'll explain them for you

 

[Ansatsuken]

Tell me the *contradictions* i'll explain them for you

Explain what Holy God posted first

 

[123fire]

Explain what Holy God posted first

He wrote gibberish there aint anything to explain

 

[Ansatsuken]

He wrote gibberish there aint anything to explain

Bcus you couldnt. The knowledge contradicts other knowledge.

 

[123fire]

Bcus you couldnt. The knowledge contradicts other knowledge.

He's saying the Anime shouldn't have made a filler about kaguya as its unimportant , which is stupid to say , care to explain your *contadictions* so that i explain them?

 

[Ansatsuken]

He's saying the Anime shouldn't have made a filler about kaguya as its unimportant , which is stupid to say , care to explain your *contadictions* so that i explain them?

Explain about Hagoromo's Rinnegan and Sharingan even his Byakugan. DB never stated Hagoromo having a Sharingan or Byakugan as his base eye.

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[Holy God]

Its known in anime everything that happens is explained im details especially in naruto , for example Madara , Hashirama , Obito , Nagato , kabuto all of them had flashback backstory! Why not Kaguya too? This is the way Naruto is every villain is explained not only as narrations but in action and details , kishi didn't do it for Kaguya , the anime did , and YES WE COMPLAINED HOW PALE KAGUYA WAS IN THE MANGA AND NOW SHE HAS A BACKSTORY AND YOU COMPLAIN .

Of course I know that the anime takes into consideration the past events of special characters, but that doesn't make every detail they add correct. Not once have I even complained about Kaguya having no backstory, because she already has one from the manga that is being incorrectly portrayed by the anime. You're celebrating the fact that we're getting more information, but all the information the anime is adding is both incorrect and insignificant. Not one thing they've supplemented is important.

 

[123fire]

Of course I know that the anime takes into consideration the past events of special characters, but that doesn't make every detail they add correct. Not once have I even complained about Kaguya having no backstory, because she already has one from the manga that is being incorrectly portrayed by the anime. You're celebrating the fact that we're getting more information, but all the information the anime is adding is both incorrect and insignificant. Not one thing they've supplemented is important.

Yes there are important things , Hamura's journey to the moon , Hagoromo's Sharingan awakening , More Kaguya depth , Revelation of Kaguya's husband , Hagoromo's Rennigan Awakening and again More Kaguya depth . #REKT

 

[123fire]

Explain about Hagoromo's Rinnegan and Sharingan even his Byakugan. DB never stated Hagoromo having a Sharingan or Byakugan as his base eye.

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Its because kishi didn't mention it that its not in the DB , but logically Hagoromo had a sharingan before awakening the Rennigan , this DB only talks about old Hagoromo , he awakned the sharingan when he was in his 20s . So the anime wanted to talk about him in his 20s he didn't have a rennigan then because it was said he awakened it , he wasn't born with it. Plus his eye wasn't a bayakugan it just looks like it because he didn't use it he only asked his brother to use it .
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