Did the Sage create his sons?

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"One was born with his chakra quality and the other was not" stated by Hagoromo Otsutsuki(Your Creepy Stalker hate him tho :pkun:).

If he made them sure Ashura will get something special from Hago too and not just Indra.

And he dont need to trained Harder.

Mean they both born naturally from a woman and not created
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No he isn't, you can't just create a human with a dojutsu you don't have, it's like saying he can create a child with a RinneSharingan. In addition, he didn't expect which powers his children would have which means he didn't create them like the bijuu, otherwise he would have know what abilities they would have

He specifically refers to passing down his genes when talking about them which means he had *** with someone because that's how you pass down genes, through reproduction.

He also says Indra was powerful by birth, keyword being "birth" which suggest he was born and not created, and finally he compares Naruto to Ashura by claiming they both came from strong parents. Hagoromo had a child with a human and it's not a surprise because he loved humanity.




Indra inherited his strong chakra genes, the genes he passed down to his children were responsible for the chakra they were able to produce. And genes can only be passed down through reproduction.

Look at Naruto and Minato, do they look the same ? No. Look at Hiruzen and Asuma, do they look the same ? No. Just because they're his children doesn't mean they're supposed to look identical to him, genes vary a lot.

The reason they don't look like Otsutsuki is because he had a child with a human. They got a human appearance from their mother but the chakra of their father.
Post the scan where it says that his sons were birthed from a woman and birth isn't a word that can be taken in a literal context in this case, why? Becuase Bz was birthed by Kaguya as well..
 

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Post the scan where it says that his sons were birthed from a woman and birth isn't a word that can be taken in a literal context in this case, why? Becuase Bz was birthed by Kaguya as well..
Did you learn science ? He said his sons inherited his genes, the only way you can pass your genes to someone is if you reproduce with the opposite ***. He never called the bijuu his children did he ?

And BZ example is moot because he said himself that Hagoromo and Hamura were her children and not him, he's just a manifestation of her will made with the same material as chakra rods. He never said she gave birth to him, he made it clear he was created.
 

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Did you learn science ? He said his sons inherited his genes, the only way you can pass your genes to someone is if you reproduce with the opposite ***.
Your placing literally science into a place were people can cough up fire dragons and create gigantic humanoid fighting weapons out of spiritual energy but since we're talking science have you ever heard of asexual production?


He never called the bijuu his children did he ?
We're the bijuu made in his image? :coffee:

BZ example is moot because he said himself that Hagoromo and Hamura were her children and not him
When did he say he wasn't her child? Becuase I swear for 20+ manga pages he calls her mother; this post is moot.

he's just a manifestation of her will made with the same material as chakra rods.
Still her child lol

He never said she gave birth to him, he made it clear he was created.

Manga stream below says something different though..

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He said he was Born, defined as existing as a result of birth.

Listen I don't doubt that ge had them the old fashion way I'm just saying there's room for imagination.
 
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Your placing literally science into a place were people can cough up fire dragons and create gigantic humanoid fighting weapons out of spiritual energy but since we're talking science have you ever heard of asexual production?




We're the bijuu made in his image? :coffee:



When did he say he wasn't her child? Becuase I swear for 20+ manga pages he calls her mother; this post is moot.



Still her child lol




Manga stream below says something different though..

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He said he was Born, defined as existing as a result of birth.

Listen I don't doubt that ge had them the old fashion way I'm just saying there's room for imagination.
Which one you prefer bcus this will solve your arguments,

Indra and Ashura born thru Vagina or Hagoromo created them?
 

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Which one you prefer bcus this will solve your arguments,

Indra and Ashura born thru Vagina or Hagoromo created them?
He was a people person so he prolly knocked a couple females
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down and had tons of children but only claimed those two.
 
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Your placing literally science into a place were people can cough up fire dragons and create gigantic humanoid fighting weapons out of spiritual energy but since we're talking science have you ever heard of asexual production?

Uhmm medical science is a thing in NV so yes science is applied in the manga. Hagoromo mentioned genes, BZ doesn't have Kaguya's genes does he ? Bijuus don't have Sharingan do they ? No, because they didn't inherit Hagoromo's genes because they were created with ninjutsu. The only way to create someone with your genes is through reproduction that's a biological law Kishi never broke.

We're the bijuu made in his image? :coffee:
Was BZ made in Kaguya's ? Nope, bijuu and BZ were both manifestation of chakra. They're purely made of chakra and nothing else. Indra and Ashura are manifestation of genes, DNA and everything that can only be made through reproduction


When did he say he wasn't her child? Becuase I swear for 20+ manga pages he calls her mother; this post is moot.
He calls her mother because Kishi wanted to make him look like a creep, but Madara already explained BZ is made through Yin-Yang release.


Still her child lol
No, the only people she considered her children were Hagoromo and Hamura, BZ is just her will and nothing else



Manga stream below says something different though..

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He said he was Born, defined as existing as a result of birth.

Listen I don't doubt that ge had them the old fashion way I'm just saying there's room for imagination.
First of all, viz scans are the only legitimate translations


Secondly, was Kaguya pregnant before her sealing ? No. Therefore BZ is not her child as he keeps saying. He's just a living chakra rod and nothing else.
 
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