[Predictions] Shot in the dark (Luffy's awakening)

[Tomato God]

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Summation of this thread, Luffy's awakening will allow him to stretch the abstract concepts around him the same way Kuma can repel abstract concepts like pain i.e. space, his own weaknesses his body's natural propotions, pain tolerances whatever he wants.


All the messages we have gotten about devil fruits awakenings are different based off of what type they are.
For paramecia its too add your power to your surroundings

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For a zoan its to completely submerge into your animal form gaining almost immortal level resiliency and a monster form with unparalleled strength

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And for logias Presumably add an attribute of their element to their enviroment

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I.e Crocdile can dry out what every he wants and black beard can absorb what ever he wants

So no assuming doffy didn't turn the buildings into strings but just instantly gave them on contact the properties of strings then its not that he can create strings but force the things around him to obey his devil fruits power. Now assume Kuma ( A paw paw man) had the same awakening and could repel what ever he want, the same way doffy could make strings out of whatever he wanted. It would explain how he a man whose power maybe is just to reject things away from himself would be able to Transfer someone else's pain.

Now apply this to luffy. The environment around him wouldn't become rubber but you would see it begin to behave like rubber and not just physical things abstract concepts like pain, space, time, natural factors of size or strength or fatigue and once they pick up luffy's malleability he can bend them like an extension of his arms and legs giving himself an new form or even slowing down time or stretching space out to increase or decrease distance

Deus ex flexilis

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[Gitch]

That would be nice ...

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

It could be completely different, of course. Doffy's DF and Luffy's DF work very differently, since Doflamingo creates strings rather than being made of string himself. Who's to say their awakenings could be nothing alike.

Also, that ability you suggested sounds way too complicated for someone like Luffy, who's general strategy is "Punch it until it dies. If this fails, Increase gear count by 1, try again".

 

[Tomato God]

It could be completely different, of course. Doffy's DF and Luffy's DF work very differently, since Doflamingo creates strings rather than being made of string himself. Who's to say their awakenings could be nothing alike.

Also, that ability you suggested sounds way too complicated for someone like Luffy, who's general strategy is "Punch it until it dies. If this fails, Increase gear count by 1, try again".

No luffy is brilliantly talented when it comes to fighting. He is absolutely moronic when it comes to anything else. Any tools he is given be it haki or a devil fruit that originally is deemed usless he will adapt and make brilliantly powerful.

 

[Prince Badman]

It could be completely different, of course. Doffy's DF and Luffy's DF work very differently, since Doflamingo creates strings rather than being made of string himself. Who's to say their awakenings could be nothing alike.

Also, that ability you suggested sounds way too complicated for someone like Luffy, who's general strategy is "Punch it until it dies. If this fails, Increase gear count by 1, try again".

He is the same guy who closely observed Soru and came up on his own new technique "Gear Second" in a single encounter with CP9 on his own. Luffy is more intelligent than he lets on. Even Smoker once said to Luffy that "You just like to play a fool" to which Luffy just smiled mysteriously. Also when it comes to fighting the guy is a genius....he developed Red Hawk on his own. So if it comes to controlling his own power and body he will be able to handle anything

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

He is the same guy who closely observed Soru and came up on his own new technique "Gear Second" in a single encounter with CP9 on his own. Luffy is more intelligent than he lets on. Even Smoker once said to Luffy that "You just like to play a fool" to which Luffy just smiled mysteriously. Also when it comes to fighting the guy is a genius....he developed Red Hawk on his own. So if it comes to controlling his own power and body he will be able to handle anything

When did Smoker say that? Quite interesting..

 

[Prince Badman]

When did Smoker say that? Quite interesting..

I think it was in one of Punk Hazard arc episodes......or maybe Alabasta i don't exactly remember

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

I think it was in one of Punk Hazard arc episodes......or maybe Alabasta i don't exactly remember

Huh, well I doubt it was PH arc, mainly because he was with Law the majority of the time and I really don't remember it then as I've only just read through the first half in the last 3 weeks... I'll try and google it, I'd quite like to know.

 

[MickNerks]

I think Luffy's Awakening will work differently from Doffy's. Doffy effected the enviroment because he created his strings. Luffy's powers make him rubber, which means his awakening probably will effect his body more so than his suroundings.

 

[Insidious Smile]

It could be completely different, of course. Doffy's DF and Luffy's DF work very differently, since Doflamingo creates strings rather than being made of string himself. Who's to say their awakenings could be nothing alike.

Also, that ability you suggested sounds way too complicated for someone like Luffy, who's general strategy is "Punch it until it dies. If this fails, Increase gear count by 1, try again".

Doffy createst string, whereas Luffy IS a rubber man, he does not create rubber. Luffy's DF fruit awakening will be nothing like Doffy's DF awakening.

 

[Tomato God]

I think Luffy's Awakening will work differently from Doffy's. Doffy effected the enviroment because he created his strings. Luffy's powers make him rubber, which means his awakening probably will effect his body more so than his suroundings.

Doffy createst string, whereas Luffy IS a rubber man, he does not create rubber. Luffy's DF fruit awakening will be nothing like Doffy's DF awakening.

Doffy explicitly said that an awakening just forces your powers into your surroundings which oda could have changed or will change that meaning. But at the time all we know is that Awakening's are an external usage of powers.

Now if you have some other proof I'd be happy to hear it.

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

Doffy explicitly said that an awakening just forces your powers into your surroundings which oda could have changed or will change that meaning. But at the time all we know is that Awakening's are an external usage of powers.

Now if you have some other proof I'd be happy to hear it.

Zoan awakenings are purely boosters to their own strength and abilities, they have nothing to do with their surroundings.

 

[MickNerks]

Doffy explicitly said that an awakening just forces your powers into your surroundings which oda could have changed or will change that meaning. But at the time all we know is that awakenings are an external usage of powers.

Now if you have some other proof I'd be happy to hear it.

Crocodile who is a Logia Devil Fruit user has a different awakening than Doffy. Where Doffy turns his environment into strings and manipulates it, Crocodile can only drain moisture from what he touches. Both have awakenings and they both operate differently. Doffy effects the environment, while crocodile only effects what he touches.

Same can be said with Zoan Awakenings. Zoans only enhance their physical traits, with no effect on their surrounding environment.

 

[Tomato God]

We are speaking in refrence to the paramencia class of df, assuming that croc and the guards are different because they are different fruit types is the most logical assumption since it requires the least amount of assuming. We saw four (or five can't remember atm) Awakened zoan, whose powers were all the same so its more safe to assume its the same per df type than it is to assume that its a varient between each and every single fruit because in doing so we present ourselves with more questions than answers. I.e. Is the zoan fruit the only class that is identical in awakening structure? Why? Does this represent a difference in the zoan fruit compared to the others? Why?. But If we take it as though all fruits have the same basic structure to awakenings we avoid those questions.

Zoan awakenings are purely boosters to their own strength and abilities, they have nothing to do with their surroundings.

Crocodile who is a Logia Devil Fruit user has a different awakening than Doffy. Where Doffy turns his environment into strings and manipulates it, Crocodile can only drain moisture from what he touches. Both have awakenings and they both operate differently. Doffy effects the environment, while crocodile only effects what he touches.

Same can be said with Zoan Awakenings. Zoans only enhance their physical traits, with no effect on their surrounding environment.

A logia and a zoan are different types but the only paramencia example we have is an effect on their surroundings. And doffy still had an incident of maintained contact he was seen stepping and as he stepped the ground turned into string and he let go and it started reverting. Crocodile also turned the entire front of the palace into sand by drying it out so much so its not just what he touches its what he is in direct or indirect contact with. Honestly their powers are similar regardless of the fruit differences.

 

[Naruto Power]

i think luffy has subconsciously awakened his power. when he goes jumping with his crew and co. they have smoked the ground and all got up with no injuries. its happened a few times.
but i dont see luffy changing pain and space and time with a rubber fruit. notice building still string.
but i do see him being able to give people around him a rubber body to take impact. or change the ground to rubber to jump/bounce or grip the ground better. or a he ducks a bullet and the wall behind him turns rubber a bounce the bullet back to the stooter

for kuma he has the power to "reject" so he used his power to reject pain and then hes got a ball of pain. which he can use. now if he awakened his power and you stepped in his area that he can control maybe building comes flying at you or you go flying cause the ground to step on rejects you.

but everything up to oda so maybe your right

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

We are speaking in refrence to the paramencia class of df, assuming that croc and the guards are different because they are different fruit types is the most logical assumption since it requires the least amount of assuming. We saw four (or five can't remember atm) Awakened zoan, whose powers were all the same so its more safe to assume its the same per df type than it is to assume that its a varient between each and every single fruit because in doing so we present ourselves with more questions than answers. I.e. Is the zoan fruit the only class that is identical in awakening structure? Why? Does this represent a difference in the zoan fruit compared to the others? Why?. But If we take it as though all fruits have the same basic structure to awakenings we avoid those questions.


A logia and a zoan are different types but the only paramencia example we have is an effect on their surroundings. And doffy still had an incident of maintained contact he was seen stepping and as he stepped the ground turned into string and he let go and it started reverting. Crocodile also turned the entire front of the palace into sand by drying it out so much so its not just what he touches its what he is in direct or indirect contact with. Honestly their powers are similar regardless of the fruit differences.

But why would we assume when we know different. that they are different?

This is how I think it goes... Zoan, effects purely themselves, as shown... Logias, effects purely their environment, this is shown on PH and also with Crocodile (if and I do think he has an awakening ability)... And then paramecia is a mix between the two. Just think about it, I believe all fruits have an awakening stage to them, opening up new possibilities as Doffy quite rightly mentions, but some fruits literally must have a different power than changing the environment in accordance to their DF. Take the Marine who can turn anything metalic he touches into rust, that's already effecting the environment, Brooke's, how's his suppose to effect the environment? Give everything else a +1 life? That was already described by the Ope Ope fruit and Oda made it seem pretty unique. So I don't think it's the case that all paramecia effect the environment dude

 

[Tomato God]

But why would we assume when we know different. that they are different?

This is how I think it goes... Zoan, effects purely themselves, as shown... Logias, effects purely their environment, this is shown on PH and also with Crocodile (if and I do think he has an awakening ability)... And then paramecia is a mix between the two. Just think about it, I believe all fruits have an awakening stage to them, opening up new possibilities as Doffy quite rightly mentions, but some fruits literally must have a different power than changing the environment in accordance to their DF. Take the Marine who can turn anything metalic he touches into rust, that's already effecting the environment, Brooke's, how's his suppose to effect the environment? Give everything else a +1 life? That was already described by the Ope Ope fruit and Oda made it seem pretty unique. So I don't think it's the case that all paramecia effect the environment dude

Well just because we don't understand how the ope ope no mi would affect its enviorment more doesnt mean it wont. Maybe it will actually start turning the surrounding world into a doctor's office, and maybe brookes power would. As well the rust marine could turn things into rust he wasnt touching
Everything is a possibilty and it doesnt have to make sense as a power up remember devil fruits aren inherit weapons so the awakening doesnt have to be combat related at all. Maybe brooks power would resurect all the dead around him temporarily because everywhere has dead things. people have died everywhere.

 

[chopstickchakra]

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Summation of this thread, Luffy's awakening will allow him to stretch the abstract concepts around him the same way Kuma can repel abstract concepts like pain i.e. space, his own weaknesses his body's natural propotions, pain tolerances whatever he wants.


All the messages we have gotten about devil fruits awakenings are different based off of what type they are.
For paramecia its too add your power to your surroundings

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For a zoan its to completely submerge into your animal form gaining almost immortal level resiliency and a monster form with unparalleled strength

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And for logias Presumably add an attribute of their element to their enviroment

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I.e Crocdile can dry out what every he wants and black beard can absorb what ever he wants

So no assuming doffy didn't turn the buildings into strings but just instantly gave them on contact the properties of strings then its not that he can create strings but force the things around him to obey his devil fruits power. Now assume Kuma ( A paw paw man) had the same awakening and could repel what ever he want, the same way doffy could make strings out of whatever he wanted. It would explain how he a man whose power maybe is just to reject things away from himself would be able to Transfer someone else's pain.

Now apply this to luffy. The environment around him wouldn't become rubber but you would see it begin to behave like rubber and not just physical things abstract concepts like pain, space, time, natural factors of size or strength or fatigue and once they pick up luffy's malleability he can bend them like an extension of his arms and legs giving himself an new form or even slowing down time or stretching space out to increase or decrease distance

Deus ex flexilis

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What if he can produce rubber like tendrils coming from his body? So he could have rubber like whips coming out of his arm that he controls on top of his punching. He could extend rubber out from any point on his body is what I'm saying, I think that could be used pretty interestingly.

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

Well just because we don't understand how the ope ope no mi would affect its enviorment more doesnt mean it wont. Maybe it will actually start turning the surrounding world into a doctor's office, and maybe brookes power would. As well the rust marine could turn things into rust he wasnt touching
Everything is a possibilty and it doesnt have to make sense as a power up remember devil fruits aren inherit weapons so the awakening doesnt have to be combat related at all. Maybe brooks power would resurect all the dead around him temporarily because everywhere has dead things. people have died everywhere.

I know they don't have to be a power-up in terms of strength, which is why my guess what Law's awakening would be to be able to perform the immortality technique, not exactly a power-up for him aha

And I know that if we don't understand something we can't confirm the outcome, that's why you discuss said outcome and debate each others side, yours being that "everyone fruit will act the same (let's just assume)", to my side of, so far different categories of fruits awaken differently, I don't think they'll all effect the environment around them, as it has been proven in the manga."

Even if we just look at paramecia, I still don't think that all awakening abilities will effect the environment, there's so many example where a fruit already can effect the environment that what else would an awakening do?? Look at Foxy's fruit, Kuma's or Blueno's?? Oda can obviously do what he likes with each characters powers, but I find it highly illogical with some that their awakening ability would effect the environment around them when that's what they already do to such a high extent.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I know they don't have to be a power-up in terms of strength, which is why my guess what Law's awakening would be to be able to perform the immortality technique, not exactly a power-up for him aha

And I know that if we don't understand something we can't confirm the outcome, that's why you discuss said outcome and debate each others side, yours being that "everyone fruit will act the same (let's just assume)", to my side of, so far different categories of fruits awaken differently, I don't think they'll all effect the environment around them, as it has been proven in the manga."

Even if we just look at paramecia, I still don't think that all awakening abilities will effect the environment, there's so many example where a fruit already can effect the environment that what else would an awakening do?? Look at Foxy's fruit, Kuma's or Blueno's?? Oda can obviously do what he likes with each characters powers, but I find it highly illogical with some that their awakening ability would effect the environment around them when that's what they already do to such a high extent.

Foxy's fruit would actually be a high contender to have an awakening that affected the area. I would have went with the booger guy from Baroque Works. Blueno's awakening could let him open doors in people maybe? Would be really handy for an assassin like him. I liked someones idea that Kuma's awakening is what allowed him to reject pain into another person.