Yata stops space-time curvature?

[SasukeSixPack]

So long as the ability is not trying to penetrate the Shield directly, or harm the user, it should work against the Yata Mirror.

The point was, that even if it's Kamui'd away, he can reform it the same as any other aspect of his Susano'o, as the nature of Edo Tensei has shown that custom weapons cannot be recreated, yet Itachi was still summoned with his sword and shield, unlike the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist.

Actually if the sheild is active, Kamui should be able to render it's defense because it warping the sheild is pretty much rendering it's defense. Here's why:

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[SasukeSixPack]

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Here it is bro.

Astral, Physical. Space Time is neither.

Bingo!

 

[The Necromancer]

Actually if the sheild is active, Kamui should be able to render it's defense because it warping the sheild is pretty much rendering it's defense. Here's why:

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I don't know what bold means.

I already told you that Kamui would warp the shield completely so long as it's not being penetrated or directed toward the user, Itachi.

 

[Gerkak]

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Kamui's second ability has debunked the hype of the first. It doesn't matter how it was stopped, it was stopped, which directly contradicts that particular DB scan.

That's like saying FTG stopped kamui.

 

[The Necromancer]

That's like saying FTG stopped kamui.

Not quite. But almost. Kamui was negated by Kamui. FTG just escaped Kamui's radius.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

I don't know what bold means.

I already told you that Kamui would warp the shield completely so long as it's not being penetrated or directed toward the user, Itachi.

The shield being warped by the curvature means it's subject to it and I don't think the shield could stop it from warping Itachi since the target to be warped in chosen by the kamui user. Its probably likely withe the shield defenses too based on the point Jokule brought up that ST curvature isn't one of the listed abilities the shield can defend against

 

[The Necromancer]

The shield being warped by the curvature means it's subject to it and I don't think the shield could stop it from warping Itachi since the target to be warped in chosen by the kamui user. Its probably likely withe the shield defenses too based on the point Jokule brought up that ST curvature isn't one of the listed abilities the shield can defend against

And I showed him that the Yata Mirror stops all Ninjutsu attempting to penetrate it or harm the user. A fact he clearly chose to overlook.

Perhaps that is why he has not responded since.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

And I showed him that the Yata Mirror stops all Ninjutsu attempting to penetrate it or harm the user. A fact he clearly chose to overlook.

Yeah but if Kamui can curve the material of the shield and warp it to another space-time then it can't stop Kamui.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yeah but if Kamui can curve the material of the shield and warp it to another space-time then it can't stop Kamui.

By un-contradicted facts of the Databook and Manga, it can, it's just that the shield does not activate under those parameters.

 

[LoZelda101]

As if Amaterasu can destroy P.S

People fail to understand that Kamui can also be used to transport people.

In that case a big Kamui hole swallos Itachi.Bye Yata Hype

he said war arc kakashi, he never said DMS you dumbass, also the you fail to realize he said he is trying to warp yata, is your fanfic mindset so delusional that you believe he can warp himself while still trying to warp yata? log off, your macbook has made you braindead.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

By un-contradicted facts of the Databook and Manga, it can, it's just that the shield does not activate under those parameters.

Then that means the shied is unable to detect whether or not Kamui is a threat and cannot exactly defend against it which goes back to Jokule's point.

 

[The Necromancer]

Then that means the shied is unable to detect whether or not Kamui is a threat and cannot exactly defend against it which goes back to Jokule's point.

It really doesn't. At all, actually. His own scan debunked his position.

The Yata Mirror has special properties. None of those properties are necessary so long as the shield itself or the Shield's user is not being directly threatened.

I don't understand the debate here. There are no facts to support the Yata Mirror being defeated in direct confrontation, while there are numerous facts to support that it defends against all threats, which have been specified by the Databook and happen to include Ninjutsu specifically, which Kamui is.

Not much more to say about it until Kishi writes another Naruto manga.

 

[Warlocks]

Yata is an astral body that can't be touched, so kamui can't send something like that away. But kamui also can't be stopped by something that isn't kamui, so kamui can't warp it away and yata can't stop its warp power. Standstill at this point.

but kamui may be able warp user

 

[The Necromancer]

but kamui may be able warp user

Not if it has to go through the Yata Mirror.

The Yata Mirror would have to be warped away first, then Itachi would have to be warped away before the Yata Mirror can reform.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Not if it has to go through the Yata Mirror.

The Yata Mirror would have to be warped away first, then Itachi would have to be warped away before the Yata Mirror can reform.

what you're not getting is that Kamui isn't an attack in the conventional sense. It's simply the bending of the space that it is locked on to.

Yes, it is almost always used as an ATTACK, but it more of a transportation system. The space is being contorted, not whatever object is there.... objects that are there just happen to be transported due to the bending of the space

 

[Jokule67]

And right there in between Astral and Physical is the word "Ninjutsu." U_U

As in Space-Time Ninjutsu.

Lol it says any Astral or Physical attack whether its Physical or Ninjutsu. Learn how to read properly.

Space Time ninjutsu is neither Astral nor Physical. Take your weak arguements elswhere bro you lost

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And just to let you know. Yata is a Susano'o "technique" as stated by Zetsu.

 

[The Necromancer]

what you're not getting is that Kamui isn't an attack in the conventional sense. It's simply the bending of the space that it is locked on to.

Yes, it is almost always used as an ATTACK, but it more of a transportation system. The space is being contorted, not whatever object is there.... objects that are there just happen to be transported due to the bending of the space

And flesh that happens to be where a knife is moved is simply pushed out of the way.

That can't be an attack either, it's natural, right?

Lol it says any Astral or Physical attack whether its Physical or Ninjutsu. Learn how to read properly.

Space Time ninjutsu is neither Astral nor Physical. Take your weak arguements elswhere bro you lost

Pathetic.

 

[Jokule67]

And flesh that happens to be where a knife is moved is simply pushed out of the way.

That can't be an attack either, it's natural, right?



Pathetic.

Lmao no you are. I gave you your own facts and still deny what it clearly says.

Yata doesnt defend against Space Time. NOTHING STOPS SPACE TIME.

You cant give one example of it being stopped can you? Lol no you cant

 

[SasukeSixPack]

It really doesn't. At all, actually. His own scan debunked his position.

The Yata Mirror has special properties. None of those properties are necessary so long as the shield itself or the Shield's user is not being directly threatened.

I don't understand the debate here. There are no facts to support the Yata Mirror being defeated in direct confrontation, while there are numerous facts to support that it defends against all threats, which have been specified by the Databook and happen to include Ninjutsu specifically, which Kamui is.

Not much more to say about it until Kishi writes another Naruto manga.

The thing is we can agree that Kamui works on the shield but yet you're saying it wouldn't work in a direct confrontation. The thing is there is also proof that there is no means to defend against Kamui as stated in the DB. Yata can't alter it's properties to counter spacetime curvature because once it become's physical it's occupying space in the physical realm and is therefore subject to the curvature.

 

[The Necromancer]

Lmao no you are. I gave you your own facts and still deny what it clearly says.

Yata doesnt defend against Space Time. NOTHING STOPS SPACE TIME.

You cant give one example of it being stopped can you? Lol no you cant

I already gave two examples of Kamui being stopped. Can you give one example of the Yata Mirror being penetrated?