Yata stops space-time curvature?

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well he did just that whether you agree or not mangafacts bro.

Kamui works in every dimension.

The only thing not existing in the current dimension is Limbo. It transcends farther than Yata because you cannot interact with it or see it because its in another world even while attacking you.

Yata is existing therefore it can be warped. If you can touch it, it exists.

Kamui can only travel other dimensions if you sync with it, other than that its power is limited to kamui dimensions.

 

[The Necromancer]

And the same data book said no defense is possible against kamui

And that has been debunked by Kamui itself. The Yata Mirror has not been, and unfortunately never will be.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

That's some nice speculation. But it's not supported by the manga or databook.

Yes it is, based on the Databook's description of Spacetime Ninjutsu.

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[The Necromancer]

Yes it is, based on the Databook's description of Spacetime Ninjutsu.

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This has nothing at all to do with this debate.

 

[Gerkak]

And that has been debunked by Kamui itself. The Yata Mirror has not been, and unfortunately never will be.

How was it debunked? Kamui intangibility is a type of teleportation, one can't warp what isn't there. Nothing in the same dimension has been able to stop kamui.

 

[The Necromancer]

How was it debunked? Kamui intangibility is a type of teleportation, one can't warp what isn't there. Nothing in the same dimension has been able to stop kamui.

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Kamui's second ability has debunked the hype of the first. It doesn't matter how it was stopped, it was stopped, which directly contradicts that particular DB scan.

 

[Jokule67]

The Databook states the Yata Mirror stops all Ninjutsu. Kamui is Ninjutsu.

Its Space Time Ninjutsu and someone already countered you on this so I wont.

Yata protects against Astral, and Material attacks in the form of Ninjutsu or Physical Attacks.

Kamui is Neither. It is Space Time. Neither Astral, nor Material. It bends the space thereof

 

[SasukeSixPack]

This has nothing at all to do with this debate.

Then you don't understand the description. Space-time ninjutsu allows the user to move into a subspace which is a hypothetical space-time continuum. Which means that when FTG is used Minato goes through a different fabric of space and time, like a worm hole that opens at his initial position and ends at Itachi's position. Yata has nothing to do with that.

 

[The Necromancer]

Then you don't understand the description. Space-time ninjutsu allows the user to move into a subspace which is a hypothetical space-time continuum. Which means that when FTG is used Minato goes through a different fabric of space and time, like a worm hole that opens at his initial position and ends at Itachi's position. Yata has nothing to do with that.

Completely bypassing an impenetrable defense is not at all defeating it. It's purposefully avoiding it because of how unstoppable it is.

Its Space Time Ninjutsu and someone already countered you on this so I wont.

Yata protects against Astral, and Material attacks in the form of Ninjutsu or Physical Attacks.

Kamui is Neither. It is Space Time. Neither Astral, nor Material. It bends the space thereof

If it's not a genjutsu or a taijutsu, it's Ninjutsu. Period.

I didn't think people were still foolish enough to believe Doujutsu, Medical Ninjutsu, and S/T Ninjutsu weren't ninjutsu.

 

[Jokule67]

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Kamui's second ability has debunked the hype of the first. It doesn't matter how it was stopped, it was stopped, which directly contradicts that particular DB scan.

Only Space Time can counter Space time as you so kindly showed

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Completely bypassing an impenetrable defense is not at all defeating it. It's purposefully avoiding it because of how unstoppable it is.

But funny enough if the fabric and space and time around the shield is warped, then the shield itself can be warped away lol.

 

[The Necromancer]

But funny enough if the fabric and space and time around the shield is warped, then the shield itself can be warped away lol.

That is still not defeating a defense. It's still working around how unbeatable it is.

Besides, Edo Tensei already proved that the Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror are embedded within Itachi's soul, unlike other material weapons displayed in the war.

 

[Jokule67]

Completely bypassing an impenetrable defense is not at all defeating it. It's purposefully avoiding it because of how unstoppable it is.



If it's not a genjutsu or a taijutsu, it's Ninjutsu. Period.

I didn't think people were still foolish enough to believe Doujutsu, Medical Ninjutsu, and S/T Ninjutsu weren't ninjutsu.

DB says Kamui cant be countered. You cant counter that bro try all you can.

Yata only protects Astral and Material attacks whether they may be Ninjutsu or Physical.

Space time is not included because those with common sense know it cant be stopped.

 

[The Necromancer]

DB says Kamui cant be countered. You cant counter that bro try all you can.

Yata only protects Astral and Material attacks whether they may be Ninjutsu or Physical.

Space time is not included because those with common sense know it cant be stopped.

You're so biased it's not even worth conversing with your opinions.

Today I learned Space-Time Ninjutsu wasn't Ninjutsu because reasons.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

That is still not defeating a defense. It's still working around how unbeatable it is.

Besides, Edo Tensei already proved that the Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror are embedded within Itachi's soul, unlike other material weapons displayed in the war.

Then you agree that it can warp the shield?

Well they are apart of his Susano'o and his Susano'o can only be made with his eyes, which he had as an edo tensei. Not sure what you're trying to get across here.

 

[The Necromancer]

Then you agree that it can warp the shield?

Well they are apart of his Susano'o and his Susano'o can only be made with his eyes, which he had as an edo tensei. Not sure what you're trying to get across here.

So long as the ability is not trying to penetrate the Shield directly, or harm the user, it should work against the Yata Mirror.

The point was, that even if it's Kamui'd away, he can reform it the same as any other aspect of his Susano'o, as the nature of Edo Tensei has shown that custom weapons cannot be recreated, yet Itachi was still summoned with his sword and shield, unlike the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist.

 

[Sex]

How exactly does a shield negate a space-time rip from sending it to another dimension? Bunch of idiots.

 

[The Necromancer]

How exactly does a shield negate a space-time rip from sending it to another dimension? Bunch of idiots.

It doesn't. But it blocks Kamui trying to penetrate it.

But it can be reformed anyway, so it's only a minor inconvenience.

 

[Jokule67]

You're so biased it's not even worth conversing with your opinions.

Today I learned Space-Time Ninjutsu wasn't Ninjutsu because reasons.

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Here it is bro.

Astral, Physical. Space Time is neither.

 

[The Necromancer]

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Here it is bro.

Astral, Physical. Space Time is neither.

Bingo!

And right there in between Astral and Physical is the word "Ninjutsu." U_U

As in Space-Time Ninjutsu.