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Ok so killer may still be one of the vinsmokes, i didnt think so but the last chapter kinded reinforced the theory sorta, cause willer uses weapons like those badass spinning blades, those two vinsmoke's were using technology for battle aswell. And just hear me out, we dont know what happened to him after kaido got ahold of him, we saw kid but not him, and apo is chillin. So what if he convinced kaido to let him go to the wedding he was probably summoned to as a spy, BUT really he is gonna try to get the straw hat alliance on his side to rescue kid cause he knkws theh will show up.
 

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It didn't sorta reinforced anything. There was never anything substantial that supported the whole Killer = Vinsmoke and nothing in this chapter changed that.

Oda made Killer up on the spot during the Shabondy arc and even admitted that he gave him that name out of shear boredom. So when he created that character, he really didn't add anything to him with the idea that he later would become relevant for Sanji's background. Not to mention Sanji and Killer met each other and it's not because the Vinsmoke clan is known for their technology, that now the entire OP verse consists out of a bunch of caveman that need two sticks to make fire while the Vinsmokes have monopolized all the technology. It's just a pair of spinning blades, not something that's that particularly special in a world like OP.

All that stuff about Kaido is completely baseless and wishful thinking. That way you can make up hundreds of different scenarios.
 

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It didn't sorta reinforced anything. There was never anything substantial that supported the whole Killer = Vinsmoke and nothing in this chapter changed that.

Oda made Killer up on the spot during the Shabondy arc and even admitted that he gave him that name out of shear boredom. So when he created that character, he really didn't add anything to him with the idea that he later would become relevant for Sanji's background. Not to mention Sanji and Killer met each other and it's not because the Vinsmoke clan is known for their technology, that now the entire OP verse consists out of a bunch of caveman that need two sticks to make fire while the Vinsmokes have monopolized all the technology. It's just a pair of spinning blades, not something that's that particularly special in a world like OP.

All that stuff about Kaido is completely baseless and wishful thinking. That way you can make up hundreds of different scenarios.
Oda didn't create Killer on the fly. He thought of a name on the fly and it could just be a codename that didn't mean much. The Kaidou stuff is baseless like you said.
 

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It didn't sorta reinforced anything. There was never anything substantial that supported the whole Killer = Vinsmoke and nothing in this chapter changed that.

Oda made Killer up on the spot during the Shabondy arc and even admitted that he gave him that name out of shear boredom. So when he created that character, he really didn't add anything to him with the idea that he later would become relevant for Sanji's background. Not to mention Sanji and Killer met each other and it's not because the Vinsmoke clan is known for their technology, that now the entire OP verse consists out of a bunch of caveman that need two sticks to make fire while the Vinsmokes have monopolized all the technology. It's just a pair of spinning blades, not something that's that particularly special in a world like OP.

All that stuff about Kaido is completely baseless and wishful thinking. That way you can make up hundreds of different scenarios.
Lmfao I swear to God this guy just waits on any theory threads so he can tear them apart on the first post.
 

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Oda didn't create Killer on the fly. He thought of a name on the fly and it could just be a codename that didn't mean much. The Kaidou stuff is baseless like you said.
He made Killer, and with extension all the Supernova's excluding Zoro and Luffy, on the fly. When the Shabondy arc was about the start or even already underway, Oda's editor or something wanted more variation in characters and that resulted in the birth of the Supernova's.

There's even a fanmade comic circulating of Oda, Kishi and Kubo having a contest where they had to draw a series of new characters on the spot and the ones Oda drew were the Supernova's.

Lmfao I swear to God this guy just waits on any theory threads so he can tear them apart on the first post.
The process is called thinking rather than mindlessly accepting everything you read and proclaim it as truth. And there are barely any real theories, what you are referring to are mainly people's fantasies and wishes which they than start seeing everywhere disregarding any sense of criticism.
 

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Lmfao I swear to God this guy just waits on any theory threads so he can tear them apart on the first post.
To be fair, most theories posted on here are either sh*tty YT vids or pure speculation with no "evidence" to back them up.

He made Killer, and with extension all the Supernova's excluding Zoro and Luffy, on the fly. When the Shabondy arc was about the start or even already underway, Oda's editor or something wanted more variation in characters and that resulted in the birth of the Supernova's.

There's even a fanmade comic circulating of Oda, Kishi and Kubo having a contest where they had to draw a series of new characters on the spot and the ones Oda drew were the Supernova's.



The process is called thinking rather than mindlessly accepting everything you read and proclaim it as truth. And there are barely any real theories, what you are referring to are mainly people's fantasies and wishes which they than start seeing everywhere disregarding any sense of criticism.
That was a mistranslation/misconception. Oda has the supernovas planned and their basic designs down but Oa's editor said it would be cool if Luffy had rivals that showed up in Saboady around the same time as him. With this, Oda had to finish names & designs and alter the story within 3 hours.The supernovas were originally supposed to be revealed after the timeskip.
 
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