So Hagoromo specialized in Uchiha Jutsu?

[SasukeSixPack]

Senju's = Uchiha's. Only Hashirama > Madara which changed the tide of it. They've been fighting on par for year's Senju in no way shape or form rofl stomp.

Also Madara hate Tobirama for killing Izuna. He's not jealous of Tobirama at all. In fact Tobirama is scared of Madara that was proven as manga facts.
Only Hashirama can fight on par with Madara and Tobirama isn't in that category.

We know Danzo took Shisui's eye but we don't know how and that filler is well filler.

Yeah this sounds more Correct. You forgot to mention that Hashirama died in a war after fighting Madara.

Fatal blows do that to you. Might as well call it a stalemate.

 

[SenseiSama]

Genes are passed down. They came from Hagoromo.

And Hagoromo's genes came from Kaguya. Indra inherited her Sharingan powers while Hagoromo inherited her Rinnegan powers, both of them had genes for her RinneSharingan but the difference in chakra led them to awakening two separate KKG.

 

[Styles]

Fire and lightening are primarily Uchiha techniques.

Fire is the basic nature for Uchiha's not lightning.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

And Hagoromo's genes came from Kaguya. Indra inherited her Sharingan powers while Hagoromo inherited her Rinnegan powers, both of them had genes for her RinneSharingan but the difference in chakra led them to awakening two separate KKG.

No that's not how it works. Hagoromo inherited Senju and uchiha DNA. He gave Indra the Uchiha, strong chakra and eye power (So they could potentially awaken Rin'negan) and he gave Ashura the Senju part with large chakra pools/strength ect. Hagoromo had both the genes for Sharingana and Rin'negan so you can't say he's wrong

 

[SenseiSama]

No that's not how it works. Hagoromo inherited Senju and uchiha DNA. He gave Indra the Uchiha, strong chakra and eye power (So they could potentially awaken Rin'negan) and he gave Ashura the Senju part with large chakra pools/strength ect. Hagoromo had both the genes for Sharingana and Rin'negan so you can't say he's wrong

The Sage's chakra gave him Rinnegan while Indra's weaker chakra gave him Sharingan, Hagoromo's chakra is a mix of Indra and Ashura's so he wouldn't have awakened a Sharingan because his chakra was for Rinnegan.

And the genes for Sharingan don't come from Hagoromo but from Kaguya because her eye is the origin of Sharingan and Rinnegan.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

If you read the Manga you'd realize that he Started teaching Ninshu A.K.A. sharing the Juubi's chakra after becoming a Jin. Him using a Nature transformation isn't a ninjutsu.

It really is, he just doesn't shout "Raiton! **** That Boulder No Jutsu!" When he uses it.

 

[Vulpini]

Fire and lightening are primarily Uchiha techniques.

Only fire. Lightning was never Uchiha. Unless Sasuke decides to make Lightning the new main Uchiha nature, since he's the leader of the Uchiha clan now.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Senju's = Uchiha's. Only Hashirama > Madara which changed the tide of it. They've been fighting on par for year's Senju in no way shape or form rofl stomp.

Um no didn't it say that the Senjus have been dominant since the Feudal era which was before this era. They were not equal and Hashirama changed the difference by a landslide. Before him the Uchihas needed to gang up on a little kid 5 vs 1 to defeat a Senju. It proves to you how the Senjus were superior since the beginning.

Being able to go against the strongest clan/= being equal to the strongest clan.

Also Madara hate Tobirama for killing Izuna. He's not jealous of Tobirama at all. In fact Tobirama is scared of Madara that was proven as manga facts.
Only Hashirama can fight on par with Madara and Tobirama isn't in that category.

Madara commented on Tobirama's unorthodox methods and how he is wise for using other people's emotions. He is very skeptical of Tobirama as he is shown to keep an eye on him. Jealous is not the right word but he fears how Tobirama could potentially get the better of him.

Tobirama has his Shunshin no jutsu. By using this jutsu he was able to blitz Izuna who was stated to be equal to that of Madara. If he was able to defeat Izuna in one blow potentially he could rival Madara as well. Though with Madara's PS he might lose but it doesn't take away the fact that Tobirama is a good support for the Uchiha. Madara is outnumbered with people of skill so while Hashi proceeds to tank his PS slashes with SS, Tobirama could pull of another one of his Hirashin slices.

Madara can't possibly react since he had to have SM to sense he was coming.

We know Danzo took Shisui's eye but we don't know how and that filler is well filler.

This is the type of filler that supports one's argument and can be weaved into the cannon category unlike some other filler logic. In comparison to the Senjus the Uchihas are still inferior man.

 

[Ansatsuken]

It really is, he just doesn't shout "Raiton! **** That Boulder No Jutsu!" When he uses it.

Or Fuuton the Cocoon no Jutsu! :lol

 

[Jokule67]

He inherited it from Kaguya yes but he was weaker and we know that because he wasn't the candidate to have the Juubi sealed.



Lol I guess you didn't trip over his grave stone while you were entering the thread because I remember bodying his post just now

He's a good guy tho.

Juubi was sealed in Hagaromo soley on the fact of Him being the older brother. Hago says this in manga.

And later Hamura evolves them to Tenseigan. Hago, according to this episode, unlocked Sharingan first.

And the senju/uchiha dynamic only applies to his sons since he is both combined. This thread false. He is even learning senjutsu now and was stated to actually be physically strong enough to move the boulder.

Hago specialized in ninjutsu period, he created the basis for it. Not one Uchiha jutsu was shown.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Fire is the basic nature for Uchiha's not lightning.

Then it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to advance his lightening to things like Kirin.

The Sage's chakra gave him Rinnegan while Indra's weaker chakra gave him Sharingan, Hagoromo's chakra is a mix of Indra and Ashura's so he wouldn't have awakened a Sharingan because his chakra was for Rinnegan.

And the genes for Sharingan don't come from Hagoromo but from Kaguya because her eye is the origin of Sharingan and Rinnegan.

Where was the Sharingan Genes before Indra was Born?

It really is, he just doesn't shout "Raiton! **** That Boulder No Jutsu!" When he uses it.

Nope. I'ts just Nature transformation

Only fire. Lightning was never Uchiha. Unless Sasuke decides to make Lightning the new main Uchiha nature, since he's the leader of the Uchiha clan now.

Yeah but as I said how does it make sense for Sasuke to develop Raiton to the extents of Kirin which is way more powerful than his Katon. Unless you want to say it's hereditary which still makes it Uchiha.

 

[Styles]

Um no didn't it say that the Senjus have been dominant since the Feudal era which was before this era. They were not equal and Hashirama changed the difference by a landslide. Before him the Uchihas needed to gang up on a little kid 5 vs 1 to defeat a Senju. It proves to you how the Senjus were superior since the beginning.

Being able to go against the strongest clan/= being equal to the strongest clan.



Madara commented on Tobirama's unorthodox methods and how he is wise for using other people's emotions. He is very skeptical of Tobirama as he is shown to keep an eye on him. Jealous is not the right word but he fears how Tobirama could potentially get the better of him.

Tobirama has his Shunshin no jutsu. By using this jutsu he was able to blitz Izuna who was stated to be equal to that of Madara. If he was able to defeat Izuna in one blow potentially he could rival Madara as well. Though with Madara's PS he might lose but it doesn't take away the fact that Tobirama is a good support for the Uchiha. Madara is outnumbered with people of skill so while Hashi proceeds to tank his PS slashes with SS, Tobirama could pull of another one of his Hirashin slices.

Madara can't possibly react since he had to have SM to sense he was coming.



This is the type of filler that supports one's argument and can be weaved into the cannon category unlike some other filler logic. In comparison to the Senjus the Uchihas are still inferior man.

No I don't think it ever said that.
Hashirama really didn't change it by a landslide when Madara was somewhere near his equal.

And no we do not know if those Uchiha ganged up on that 1 Senju for all we know 1 Uchiha killed him.

Why would they need to gang up on someone who was scared and like 4-5 years old? So that proves nothing but if you want to go by that then sure.

Not really since for ages whenever the Senju was hired for something the Uchiha was also hired to fight them that continued for ages that proves that they're near equals.

Not really Tobirama was the one scared of Madara. Using unorthodox methods just mean that he took advantage of people when they think the fight is over to attack. He didn't one shot Izuna nor was Izuna equal to Madara. Madara and Hashirama are the only ones that was nearly on par.

In fact you have it backwards.

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Then it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to advance his lightening to things like Kirin.

Where was the Sharingan Genes before Indra was Born?


Nope. I'ts just Nature transformation

Yeah but as I said how does it make sense for Sasuke to develop Raiton to the extents of Kirin which is way more powerful than his Katon. Unless you want to say it's hereditary which still makes it Uchiha.

Lightning is Sasuke's secondary chakra nature. Just like Itachi's fire and water nature.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Then it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to advance his lightening to things like Kirin.

It makes perfect sense, since Katon is useless for everything.

 

[Jokule67]

Then it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to advance his lightening to things like Kirin.

Where was the Sharingan Genes before Indra was Born?


Nope. I'ts just Nature transformation

Yeah but as I said how does it make sense for Sasuke to develop Raiton to the extents of Kirin which is way more powerful than his Katon. Unless you want to say it's hereditary which still makes it Uchiha.

Kirin is natural thunder he invented the technique. Raiton is not an uchiha jutsu. Anyone with Raiton can use its jutsus.

Indra is the start of the Uchiha clan, not Hago. Madara didnt even have Raiton. Stop with fanfic, uchiga were known for Katon, and Sharingan only.

 

[Styles]

It makes perfect sense, since Katon is useless for everything.

Have you seen Madara's katon jutsu's? :sdo3:

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Have you seen Madara's katon jutsu's? :sdo3:

Have you seen Madara's katon jutsu's do anything?

 

[Styles]

Have you seen Madara's katon jutsu's do anything?

Yep it had a large aoe effect too took like 10 people if not more to equal it.

 

[arv993]

Um no didn't it say that the Senjus have been dominant since the Feudal era which was before this era. They were not equal and Hashirama changed the difference by a landslide. Before him the Uchihas needed to gang up on a little kid 5 vs 1 to defeat a Senju. It proves to you how the Senjus were superior since the beginning.

Being able to go against the strongest clan/= being equal to the strongest clan.



Madara commented on Tobirama's unorthodox methods and how he is wise for using other people's emotions. He is very skeptical of Tobirama as he is shown to keep an eye on him. Jealous is not the right word but he fears how Tobirama could potentially get the better of him.

Tobirama has his Shunshin no jutsu. By using this jutsu he was able to blitz Izuna who was stated to be equal to that of Madara. If he was able to defeat Izuna in one blow potentially he could rival Madara as well. Though with Madara's PS he might lose but it doesn't take away the fact that Tobirama is a good support for the Uchiha. Madara is outnumbered with people of skill so while Hashi proceeds to tank his PS slashes with SS, Tobirama could pull of another one of his Hirashin slices.

Madara can't possibly react since he had to have SM to sense he was coming.



This is the type of filler that supports one's argument and can be weaved into the cannon category unlike some other filler logic. In comparison to the Senjus the Uchihas are still inferior man.

Ur dumb Uchiha and Senju are equal. It's been stated a thousand times. Ur argument is hashi>maddy that's it. If you go by that logic itachi> tsunade so Uchiha is better. Uchiha has produced the strongest ninjas to be honest. Quality wise they have the most.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Yep it had a large aoe effect too took like 10 people if not more to equal it.

Or, put it another way, it was countered by 10 fodders.

 

[Styles]

Or, put it another way, it was countered by 10 fodders.

Wrong. It was way more.

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