Shikamaru top tier

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All k11 would beat him though. Only Ino and tenten(without sage tools)at best loses to him. Butterfly mode choji wins. Cerberus Kiba wins. Sakura wins, Hinata possibly, shino would win, Lee wins. If Shikamaru had prep time to make strategies for each one of them then he might be able to pull it off.

Sakura loses. Can't do anything once caught and she will be caught.
Hinata loses.
Choji loses if he doesn't start in butterfly mode.
Ino loses
Tenten loses

Shino is iffy

Lee definitely beats him.
 

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Sakura loses. Can't do anything once caught and she will be caught.
Hinata loses.
Choji loses if he doesn't start in butterfly mode.
Ino loses
Tenten loses

Shino is iffy

Lee definitely beats him.
Dude you're crazy if you think Sakura and Choji loses to Shikamaru. Shadow possession can be broken with brute strength. Shikamaru don't have a finishing move after using it. And Sakura have a aoe attack that Shikamaru isn't fast enough to dodge. Butterfly mode choji is to fast and strong for Shikamaru. And even if he's caught in shadow possession he can still go butterfly mode since he don't need to move. If Shikamaru is in range Hinata can use 64 palms to end Shikamaru.
 

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Dude you're crazy if you think Sakura and Choji loses to Shikamaru. Shadow possession can be broken with brute strength. Shikamaru don't have a finishing move after using it. And Sakura have a aoe attack that Shikamaru isn't fast enough to dodge. Butterfly mode choji is to fast and strong for Shikamaru. And even if he's caught in shadow possession he can still go butterfly mode since he don't need to move. If Shikamaru is in range Hinata can use 64 palms to end Shikamaru.

Since when was Sakura strong enough to break out of Shadow possession? Sakura uses explosive power, by using chakra on her fists, how in the world does that translate into breaking out of shadow possession?

You do realize Sakura is not that physically strong right, unless I'm missing some new feats from her after Naruto's end.

And it seems you dont understand how shadow possession works, Choji can only go into butterfly mode if he is strong enough, not because he enters it because he doesn't need to move, shadow possession would not allow that.
 

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Since when was Sakura strong enough to break out of Shadow possession? Sakura uses explosive power, by using chakra on her fists, how in the world does that translate into breaking out of shadow possession?

You do realize Sakura is not that physically strong right, unless I'm missing some new feats from her after Naruto's end.

And it seems you dont understand how shadow possession works, Choji can only go into butterfly mode if he is strong enough, not because he enters it because he doesn't need to move, shadow possession would not allow that.
If someone is stronger than Shikamaru they can break his shadow possession. His shadow possession also have a range and Sakura or anyone else won't just sit there and let him use it.
Choji goes into butterfly mode by turning his fat into chakra. So long as he's fat he can go into butterfly mode. Shikamaru in can't beat them in no way shape or form. And if he had time to prepare then even then that's a maybe
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If someone is stronger than Shikamaru they can break his shadow possession. His shadow possession also have a range and Sakura or anyone else won't just sit there and let him use it.
Choji goes into butterfly mode by turning his fat into chakra. So long as he's fat he can go into butterfly mode. Shikamaru in can't beat them in no way shape or form. And if he had time to prepare then even then that's a maybe
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They can break out if it in due time, what did I already say, he probably wont even need more than 10 seconds once he catches her. He should be good for a few minutes anyway, so that point is completely irrelevant.

What do you mean let him use it? If they come at him they are asking to be stopped. Having range doesn't mean it can't be used from close range.

You don't get it, Choji once caught cannot enter butterfly mode, because he can't control his body, its not hard to understand. Only if you believe Choji is strong enough to control his body, can he do it.

Regardless Choji is a tougher customer for Shikamaru, thats why I said before he uses butterfly mode.

Sakura doesn't really stand much of chance.
 

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In Boruto the movie Shikamaru shadow binding jutsu restrained Momoshiki for a moment until he used his Advanced preta path eye so does this mean that Shikamaru is top tier? I mean the guy is the hokage's right hand man he has to be powerful but not godlike I would put him as the strongest right under guy and lees 8 gates but i feel like he can really solo just about anyone with shadown strangle jutsu

Rank means nothing. Are you seriously telling me Shikamaru can stand his ground against the likes of EMS Madara, Hashirama, DSM Kabuto, Minato, Itachi, Tobirama, 3rd Raikage, Muu, 2nd Mizukage ect?
 

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Rank means nothing. Are you seriously telling me Shikamaru can stand his ground against the likes of EMS Madara, Hashirama, DSM Kabuto, Minato, Itachi, Tobirama, 3rd Raikage, Muu, 2nd Mizukage ect?

Once he got them in shadow binding yes
 

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Her is not above Sakura
She can brute her way out of it, or just spike her chakra levels.
Hinata probably can even gentle fist the shadow away,

Even ino destroys him, if she is capture, because she will be able posses him because he is stuck too

This is easily one of the dumbest things ever said on NB.
 

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They can break out if it in due time, what did I already say, he probably wont even need more than 10 seconds once he catches her. He should be good for a few minutes anyway, so that point is completely irrelevant.

What do you mean let him use it? If they come at him they are asking to be stopped. Having range doesn't mean it can't be used from close range.

You don't get it, Choji once caught cannot enter butterfly mode, because he can't control his body, its not hard to understand. Only if you believe Choji is strong enough to control his body, can he do it.

Regardless Choji is a tougher customer for Shikamaru, thats why I said before he uses butterfly mode.

Sakura doesn't really stand much of chance.
Once caught you can control your body you can talk and if you're stronger than the user you'll have some resistance to it.

Choji doesn't have to move to go into butterfly mode or anything he just have to turn his fat into chakra that requires no type of movements.

If you believe Shikamaru can beat them then by all means do but it's completely wrong. Yin seal Sakura rek's, Choji rek's. Literally all the k11 wins except for tenten without sage tools Ino possibly Sai if he's part of it now and maybe Hinata which I doubt.
 

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Once he got them in shadow binding yes

Firstly, in order to have a chance, he needs to remain a long distance away from them. All the top tier ninja can close that distance very easily. Secondly, that's like saying "Konohamaru beats Itachi once Konohamaru cuts off Itachi's arms and legs and gauges out his eyes". While possible, it is unlikely to happen.
Finally, it has been shown that strength give you the power to overcome Shadow Binding. All the top tier are strong enough to break out of it, and the ones that aren't have other ways: Minato has FTG; Itachi can Amaterasu Shikamaru, Mizukage will use a Genjutsu ect ect ect
 
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