[Discussion] Kiado + 3 Calmaities vs Luffy + 3 straw hats

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Who would be the fourth straw hat is the big question I am having
Because it should logically be
Luffy vs Kiado
Zoro vs Jack
Sanji vs 2nd Calmity
??? vs Last calmity

Based off strength it should be robin but based off of actual experiece going 4 v 4 it would be ussop because he was the fourth man at arlong park and the only time it was 4 v 4 it was ussop that filled that last spot

NOT A VERSUS THREAD OBVIOUSLY KAIDO STOMPS
 
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Kaido wins.
 

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Does it matter? Kaido by himself destroys the three the other calamities are in the back sipping orange juice
 

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NOT A VERSUS thread I am asking who the fourth straw hat would be

But there's no way Luffy would fight Kaido alone xd

Who even says it'll be a SH anyways...could easily be Law or someone.But if you are really targeting a SH then my bet is on Franky or Usopp.
 

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But there's no way Luffy would fight Kaido alone xd

Who even says it'll be a SH anyways...could easily be Law or someone.But if you are really targeting a SH then my bet is on Franky or Usopp.

Its a hypothetical.
 

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NOT A VERSUS thread I am asking who the fourth straw hat would be

They all get smashed anyway :bdpf:. Anyway I don't think it's a matter of who the fourth will be, luffy couldn't take Kaido even if he wanted to. Straw hats vs calamties is better THEN they gace Kaido. Another option is if the straw hat grand fleet teams with Shank's crew then Shank takes on Kaido which would be fun to see.
 

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They all get smashed anyway :bdpf:. Anyway I don't think it's a matter of who the fourth will be, luffy couldn't take Kaido even if he wanted to. Straw hats vs calamties is better THEN they gace Kaido. Another option is if the straw hat grand fleet teams with Shank's crew then Shank takes on Kaido which would be fun to see.

Youre dumb.
If you dont feel like answer a question in a conversation stop talking rather than ask your own question.
 

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Jimbei

I believe he'll be playing a part in current art real soon. Just have a hunch. Considering he is affiliated with Big Mom or at least was affiliated with her until fishman island.
 

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Youre dumb.
If you dont feel like answer a question in a conversation stop talking rather than ask your own question.

What is the point of yoir thread when you literally have "VS", why not just make a thread discussing who the fourth straw hat is instead of comparing it to Kaidou's crew if there is no correlation then there's no need for a fourth straw hat that's why over half of the people on this thread are not giving you serious answers because ypu LITERALLY have "vs". There's no need for a fourth straw hat anyone that wants to be a fourth just jpins the straw hat grand fleet anyway. Your thread is redundan in nature even if it were hypothetical you have to think in the context if the story Oda had always perpetrated a "big three" it's always been that way since part one everyone else are subsidiaries. And with the story over half way done why do you want a fourth straw hat??? Who do you expect it to ne Boa Hancock :th:?
 

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What is the point of yoir thread when you literally have "VS", why not just make a thread discussing who the fourth straw hat is instead of comparing it to Kaidou's crew if there is no correlation then there's no need for a fourth straw hat that's why over half of the people on this thread are not giving you serious answers because ypu LITERALLY have "vs". There's no need for a fourth straw hat anyone that wants to be a fourth just jpins the straw hat grand fleet anyway. Your thread is redundan in nature even if it were hypothetical you have to think in the context if the story Oda had always perpetrated a "big three" it's always been that way since part one everyone else are subsidiaries. And with the story over half way done why do you want a fourth straw hat??? Who do you expect it to ne Boa Hancock :th:?

I know there is a big three so in a hypothetical situation where they needed four I was asking who would be the fourth. Everyone else figured it out though.

The point of a good story is to establish norms and then break out of those norms. Luffy is strong is a norm thats why he is contiunally faced with stronger opponents. Zoro and sanji are both the second and third strongest thats why one of them has been gone for the last two arcs (niether of the other power trios were split evenly except the main). A good story forces its logic to be tested so its not redunant to ask if the big three had to face a big four who would help them

But everyone else figured that out.
 

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I don't believe either Sanji or Zoro will get a one on one calamity match up with the involvement of allies in both the parties. At this point it's more than likely Shogun is reserved for Zoro. And Sanji may have to share a calamity with someone else from the alliance. One of the calamities"likely Jack" may end up getting beaten by Luffy himself. Then there is Law and dukes who deserve a calamity match up way more than Sanji.
 

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I know there is a big three so in a hypothetical situation where they needed four I was asking who would be the fourth. Everyone else figured it out though.

The point of a good story is to establish norms and then break out of those norms. Luffy is strong is a norm thats why he is contiunally faced with stronger opponents. Zoro and sanji are both the second and third strongest thats why one of them has been gone for the last two arcs (niether of the other power trios were split evenly except the main). A good story forces its logic to be tested so its not redunant to ask if the big three had to face a big four who would help them

But everyone else figured that out.

Only one person here gave you a serious answer and that's User Sanji Vinsmoke. Unless you think Usopp will be part of the big three or law will be a fourth straw hat.

To make a good story isn't about bteaking norms ALL the times. If an author can't stand by certain norms it's not a good story it's called an inconsistent story. To make a good story it has to actually make sense and be consistent. For example Akira Toriyama's goku always has a norm of facing stronger opponent and wanting to get stronger and stronger that's his core character. If that changed too much fans would not associate with that goku. Same thing here Oda has no reason to implement a fourth straw hat. Even as a hypothetical statement it's sort of like asking how does usopp beat prime whitebeard in a 1 V 1 arm wrestling contest with complete intent to win on both sides.

Fans grew up with Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro. I mean look at Kishimoto's manga that man pulls things out of nowhete but there has never really been a "fourth" member if team seven. It was just the main three. When Dasuke came back Sai became irrelevant because it was always meant to be the three. A fourth straw hat member is awkward on Oda's part. Even luffy doesn't seem to want more members (turning down Bartholomew :lmao:) so they can just join the straw hat grand fleet.

If there is a fourth member...it better not be freaking carrot of all people
 

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I don't believe either Sanji or Zoro will get a one on one calamity match up with the involvement of allies in both the parties. At this point it's more than likely Shogun is reserved for Zoro. And Sanji may have to share a calamity with someone else from the alliance. One of the calamities"likely Jack" may end up getting beaten by Luffy himself. Then there is Law and dukes who deserve a calamity match up way more than Sanji.

It's not a Vs thread :th:. I don't know why he has the whole "vs" thing either but he insists it's not. I guess he wants the SH crew to resemble Kaido's crew
 

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Only one person here gave you a serious answer and that's User Sanji Vinsmoke. Unless you think Usopp will be part of the big three or law will be a fourth straw hat.

To make a good story isn't about bteaking norms ALL the times. If an author can't stand by certain norms it's not a good story it's called an inconsistent story. To make a good story it has to actually make sense and be consistent. For example Akira Toriyama's goku always has a norm of facing stronger opponent and wanting to get stronger and stronger that's his core character. If that changed too much fans would not associate with that goku. Same thing here Oda has no reason to implement a fourth straw hat. Even as a hypothetical statement it's sort of like asking how does usopp beat prime whitebeard in a 1 V 1 arm wrestling contest with complete intent to win on both sides.

Fans grew up with Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro. I mean look at Kishimoto's manga that man pulls things out of nowhete but there has never really been a "fourth" member if team seven. It was just the main three. When Dasuke came back Sai became irrelevant because it was always meant to be the three. A fourth straw hat member is awkward on Oda's part. Even luffy doesn't seem to want more members (turning down Bartholomew :lmao:) so they can just join the straw hat grand fleet.

If there is a fourth member...it better not be freaking carrot of all people

It's not a Vs thread :th:. I don't know why he has the whole "vs" thing either but he insists it's not. I guess he wants the SH crew to resemble Kaido's crew

I am not asking if there would be a big four. I am asking who are the straw hats most capable four fighters and I don't know why you cannot grasp this.
 

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The Alliance was to take down Kaido, so Law shouldn't sit out here plus we're expecting former WB pirates and Marco too so there are many eligible contenders...
But right now they're going to get destroyed if they mess with Kaido.

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What do you think Jack has to offer against Zoro, considering Zoro had been fighting swordsmen up till now... Jack isn't a swordsman.

At least, wait until Kaido's main crew members are revealed.
 

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The Alliance was to take down Kaido, so Law shouldn't sit out here plus we're expecting former WB pirates and Marco too so there are many eligible contenders...
But right now they're going to get destroyed if they mess with Kaido.

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What do you think Jack has to offer against Zoro, considering Zoro had been fighting swordsmen up till now... Jack isn't a swordsman.

At least, wait until Kaido's main crew members are revealed.

Neither was Pica a swordman >_>
 

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Usopp would get negged by a calamity. I can't believe you actually suggested that Usopp could fight one.
 
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