Is Ay faster than Itachi can react?

Is ay faster than Itachi can React?

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SasukeSixPack

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If Minato could react, Itachi can most definitely react, even better via clone feint.


But a clone feint is a physical reaction because itachi has to make hand seals, isn't that different from FTG?
 

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This isn't a conversation about Ay vs Itachi we all know Itachi rekts. It's about whether or not Itachi can react to Ays speed.

And considering that he was able to Dodge KCM Naruto(Faster than Ay) and Killer B(On par with A) at the SAME TIME while carrying on a conversation with them is more than enough evidence.

It still applies. Reaction time is needed to caste genjutsu. What I am saying is Ay needs to catch Itachi before he can even point or make contact with his eye. If he makes eye contact with Itachi the genjutsu entrapment is instant an Aye loose the reaction bout. This IS a VS thread. It comes down to who's is faster: Ay's speed to hit Itachi or Itachi's speed to catch Ay in genjutsu.

I'm not saying Itachi doesn't have good reaction time. He does. But no I don't believe it's faster than Ay where taijutsu reaction is concerned. Itachi is all about catching you in genjutsu before the bout even starts. He has done it in almost all of his matches.


You honestly think Itachi is going to go up against the fastest shinobi (at that time) in a taijutsu match without using genjutsu?
 
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It still applies. Reaction time is needed to caste genjutsu. What I am saying is Ay needs to catch Itachi before he can even point or make contact with his eye. If he makes eye contact with Itachi the genjutsu entrapment is instant an Aye loose the reaction bout. This IS a VS thread. It comes down to who's is faster: Ay's speed to hit Itachi or Itachi's speed to catch Ay in genjutsu.

You honestly think Itachi is going to go up against the fastest shinobi (at that time) in a taijutsu match without using genjutsu?

I never said that Itachi can beat Ay in a TaiJutsu battle, I'm arguing that Itachi has the reation time to evade Ay's speed as proven within the Manga

In a prolonged TaiJutsu only battle Ay shits on Itachi if that isn't obvious enough. In a real battle without Limits Itachi neg diffs him.

But my point stands that Itachi can react to Ay's speed. So in reply to the thread No. Ay isnt too fast for Itachi to react to.
 

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I never said that Itachi can beat Ay in a TaiJutsu battle, I'm arguing that Itachi has the reation time to evade Ay's speed as proven within the Manga

In a prolonged TaiJutsu only battle Ay shits on Itachi if that isn't obvious enough. In a real battle without Limits Itachi neg diffs him.

But my point stands that Itachi can react to Ay's speed. So in reply to the thread No. Ay isnt too fast for Itachi to react to.

How was it proven tha Itachi's reactions were on par with Ay? He never fought him or Minato. That's speculation using the fight with KCM Naruto.

Just because he dodged both Bee and Naruto-who said they were flying at him with all their speed?Naruto was conversating with Itachi during the fight of course he isn't going to go all out in soles feats. He wasn't trying to kill/stop him. He needed to talk with him.

Had Naruto been in it for the kill I honestly don't think Itachi could keep up. His expertise is GENJUTSU. He is proficient-even talented in the other areas of combat but you guys are completely underestimating Ay's speed and reaction time and, once again, overestimating Itachi in every field.

Sorry my opinion and point still stands. Itachi is not fast enough without genjutsu.
 
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How was it proven tha Itachi's reactions were on par with Ay? He never fought him or Minato. That's speculation using the fight with KCM Naruto.

Just because he dodged both Bee and Naruto-who said they were flying at him with all their speed. Naruto was conversations with Itachi during the fight of course he isn't going to go all out in soles feats. He wasn't trying to kill/stop him. He needed to talk with him.

Had Naruto been in it for the kill I honestly don't think Itachi could keep up. His expertise is GENJUTSU. He is proficient-even talented in the other areas of combat but you guys are completely underestimating Ay's speed and reaction time.

Are you dumb? Itachi was the one that needed to talk with Naruto starting the conversation by saying "What happened to Sasuke" I just stated that a few minutes ago.

And if that fight wasn't enough to prove my point then consider that Itachi was able to react to Kirin, a Lightning technique that moves at 1/1000th of a second 4 times faster than Sound, and successfully block it in time before it reached him.

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yea react to ay's speed meaning when itachi blinks off with his head.
 

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How was it proven tha Itachi's reactions were on par with Ay? He never fought him or Minato. That's speculation using the fight with KCM Naruto.

Just because he dodged both Bee and Naruto-who said they were flying at him with all their speed?Naruto was conversating with Itachi during the fight of course he isn't going to go all out in soles feats. He wasn't trying to kill/stop him. He needed to talk with him.

Had Naruto been in it for the kill I honestly don't think Itachi could keep up. His expertise is GENJUTSU. He is proficient-even talented in the other areas of combat but you guys are completely underestimating Ay's speed and reaction time and, once again, overestimating Itachi in every field.

Sorry my opinion and point still stands. Itachi is not fast enough without genjutsu.

Manga fact... Kcm › Ay speed. Ay admitted inferiority to naruto's speed and even compared it to ftg speed so wtf are you saying.. Itachi reacted to kcm = ftg › lightning armor v2.. Manga › your opinion
 

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yea react to ay's speed meaning when itachi blinks off with his head.

Zetsu the one that witnessed Kaguya's power herself stated that Kirin was unavoidable. And yet he reacted to it in time. You have no evidence that he cant react to Ay.
 

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Are you dumb? Itachi was the one that needed to talk with Naruto starting the conversation by saying "What happened to Sasuke" I just stated that a few minutes ago.

And if that fight wasn't enough to prove my point then consider that Itachi was able to react to Kirin, a Lightning technique that moves at 1/1000th of a second 4 times faster than Sound, and successfully block it in time before it reached him.

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Why is it important who started the conversation. I never said Naruto initiated the conversation nor does it matter who started the conversation. The point is they were conversating so Naruto wasn't trying to kill him at that point. Or else he would have used the same speed he went up against Ay with.

Your Kirin argument is a better argument than using Minato or KCM Naruto argument. And don't call me dumb simply because I disagree with you. I respect your argument. But I simply disagree with it. You have no solid proof his reaction time is fast enough and nor do I to prove otherwise.

These are OPINIONS and not cold hard facts. And I disagree with your opinion as you disagree with mine :coffee:
 
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How was it proven tha Itachi's reactions were on par with Ay? He never fought him or Minato. That's speculation using the fight with KCM Naruto.

Just because he dodged both Bee and Naruto-who said they were flying at him with all their speed?Naruto was conversating with Itachi during the fight of course he isn't going to go all out in soles feats. He wasn't trying to kill/stop him. He needed to talk with him.

Had Naruto been in it for the kill I honestly don't think Itachi could keep up. His expertise is GENJUTSU. He is proficient-even talented in the other areas of combat but you guys are completely underestimating Ay's speed and reaction time and, once again, overestimating Itachi in every field.

Sorry my opinion and point still stands. Itachi is not fast enough without genjutsu.

You keep speaking unsure of yourself saying honesty if if if if if if naruto if if if if if naruto was in it for the kill... Itachi reacting to kcm naruto isn't speculation whats speculation is what your saying he can't react to Ay even though he reacted to a speed greater than Ay's
 

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Why is it important who started the conversation. I never said Naruto initiated the conversation nor does it matter who started the conversation. The point is they were conversating so Naruto wasn't trying to kill him at that point. Or else he would have used the same speed he went up against Ay with.

Your Kirin argument is a better argument than using Minato or KCM Naruto argument. And don't call me dumb simply because I disagree with you. I respect your argument. But I simply disagree with it. You have no solid proof his reaction time is fast enough and not do I

These are OPINIONS and not cold hard facts. And I disagree with your opinion as you disagree with mine :coffee:

Lol you are the only opinion here... Its a MANGA fact kcm speed › Ay's speed it was proven in the manga, its also a. MANGA fact itachi reacted to that same kcm speed so facts › your opinions...
 

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Why is it important who started the conversation. I never said Naruto initiated the conversation nor does it matter who started the conversation. The point is they were conversating so Naruto wasn't trying to kill him at that point. Or else he would have used the same speed he went up against Ay with.

Your Kirin argument is a better argument than using Minato or KCM Naruto argument. And don't call me dumb simply because I disagree with you. I respect your argument. But I simply disagree with it. You have no solid proof his reaction time is fast enough and nor do I to prove otherwise.

These are OPINIONS and not cold hard facts. And I disagree with your opinion as you disagree with mine :coffee:

I respect your opinion too. And I see what your saying. You can believe what you want. Feat Wise it would appear that the evidence points in Itachi's favor and I personally don't see anything but opinions that contradict it. I'm just sticking to the side with the most plausible evidence.
 

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I respect your opinion too. And I see what your saying. You can believe what you want. Feat Wise it would appear that the evidence points in Itachi's favor and I personally don't see anything but opinions that contradict it. I'm just sticking to the side with the most plausible evidence.

This is can agree with. You have a stronger argument where Kirin is concerned so I can conceded this one to you no problem.
 

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You keep speaking unsure of yourself saying honesty if if if if if if naruto if if if if if naruto was in it for the kill... Itachi reacting to kcm naruto isn't speculation whats speculation is what your saying he can't react to Ay even though he reacted to a speed greater than Ay's

Dude please stop. I'm not talking to you. Just take your -rep from me and get lost.
 

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This is can agree with. You have a stronger argument where Kirin is concerned so I can conceded this one to you no problem.

I was thinking. If they were talking does that mean they were moving slower than sound speed?
 

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Lol most likely. Could you imagine how confused they would be trying to talk and moving past their own words? Itachi would be looking behind because Naruto's voice would be coming from another direction and vise versa XD

They'd be like: "do you have a clone on the field? I just heard you from like 50 meters behind me." Lol
 

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Are you dumb? Itachi was the one that needed to talk with Naruto starting the conversation by saying "What happened to Sasuke" I just stated that a few minutes ago.

And if that fight wasn't enough to prove my point then consider that Itachi was able to react to Kirin, a Lightning technique that moves at 1/1000th of a second 4 times faster than Sound, and successfully block it in time before it reached him.

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You are lowbaling itachi withou even noticing :lmao:
 

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But a clone feint is a physical reaction because itachi has to make hand seals, isn't that different from FTG?

Itachi has higher hand seal speed than Minato meaning he can form a seal and create a clone faster than Minato can simply flick a kunai.

Itachi managed to clone-swap faster than the Sharingan and a Sage User could perceive (once with Hebi Sasuke, once with EMS Sasuke, and twice with SM Kabuto) who by far, possesses advantages in terms of reactions than Raikage.
 
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