Then we can move slightly forward we would still need to deconstruct systematic oppression, put the marginalized people in the center, and maybe then we move forward.
The difference between the KKk and Black Panther Party was that the KKK was fueled by hatred, racism, and ignorance. While the BBP were against oppression,war, etc.
Ten-point Program
We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
We want full employment for our people.
We want an end to the robbery by the Capitalists of our Black Community.
We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.
We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.
We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.
We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
I notice you only post 8 points in a "ten point program"
"We Want All Black People When Brought To Trial To Be Tried In
Court By A Jury Of Their Peer Group Or People From Their Black
Communities, As Defined By The Constitution Of The United States.
We believe that the courts should follow the United States Constitution so that Black people will receive fair trials. The Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives a man a right to be tried by his peer group. A peer is a person from a similar economic, social, religious, geographical, environmental, historical and racial background. To do this the court will be forced to select a jury from the Black community from which the Black defendant came. We have been, and are being, tried by all-White juries that have no understanding of the "average reasoning man" of the Black community.
We Want Land, Bread, Housing, Education,
Clothing, Justice And Peace.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitle them, a decent respect of the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
Maybe because the other two points are racist right?
"put the marginalized people in the center"
Basically special treatment until equality is reached. How exactly do we measure equality?
^^this is the definition of discrimination
You're just as racist as me, you just want it for your people where as I want it for mine.
There is no difference between the black panthers and the modern KKK. Both support segregation.
Then make your own separate place. I'm not funding that shit
"4. We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own–either on this continent or elsewhere. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years–until we are able to produce and supply our own needs."
"10. We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should be prohibited. We want the religion of Islam taught without hindrance or suppression."
^^^This is your hero???
Yall are just as racist as me, the difference being my people are on top and you want me to give that shit away as if ill be treated fairly if I do
Then make your own separate place. I'm not funding that shit
"4. We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own–either on this continent or elsewhere. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years–until we are able to produce and supply our own needs."
"10. We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should be prohibited. We want the religion of Islam taught without hindrance or suppression."
Didn't say I supported Malcolm X or the Black Panthers, just denied the false equivalence between the goals of the Black Panthers and the KKK.
It's irrelevant, anyway. The Black Panthers are not the only model for black pride/power, the KKK is not the only model for white pride/power. Neither is supported by the majority of either race, afaik.
Didn't say I supported Malcolm X or the Black Panthers, just denied the false equivalence between the goals of the Black Panthers and the KKK.
It's irrelevant, anyway. The Black Panthers are not the only model for black pride/power, the KKK is not the only model for white pride/power. Neither is supported by the majority of either race, afaik.
you don't think the KKK would rather have blacks gone than under thumb? What do you think white flight was about? we can't stand black culture and don't want said people to be around us.
Mass Incarceration and the New Jim Crow... These people don't understand @bold
I'm not saying you're white because you're racist but that you're racist because you're white. I'm not saying you discriminate or anything those are just aspects of racism. We are all products of our environment. Whites are oppressors and nonwhites are the oppressed. Whiteness is what I am talking about. Not individuals but the skin. If nonwhites can be racist then nobody is racist, whites are the only racist. Yes there is such a thing as "internalized racism" for nonwhites.
Africa is not so bad except for the DR of Congo, unless you're think Africa has starving kids everywhere. All white people are racist. If all white people acknowledged their privileges and the ongoing racism then blacks wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. You're the bonified definition of someone who believes in colorblindless.
I was only taught white history in school. I learned more about black history in one semester of college than the 12 wasteful school years. White history is taught as the core curriculum, students are required to learn about American(white) history. There's not much talk about Ella Baker, Angela Davis, Malcom X, Fred Hampton, the Black Panther Party, Black people contribution to the American revolution, Du Bois, etc. No instead it glorifies whiteness and teach black children that they were inferior one time and did not help make this country or have no achievements. Glorifying people who owned slaves. Not only race but there should be more women in the history books.
At best they would teach about nonwhites in a chapter "within" a section. At least they can do is expand on discrimination too. There is no mention about the Black Codes, China Exclusion Act, etc. There is all this talk about white achievement while a lot of the bad dirty shit is swept under the rug halfway.
The ignorance in your post is remarkable. Just because your school failed you doesn't mean everyone in the country does so too. You're taking your personal experiences and opinions and extrapolating them to an entire population scale, there's a word for that and it's projecting.
This shows how out of touch with things you really are and how much you create these concepts:
We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
We want full employment for our people.
We want an end to the robbery by the Capitalists of our Black Community.
We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.
We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.
We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.
We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
You are free as a people, and you do have control over your own community. Everybody has the freedom to do exactly what white ancestors did, find an area establish yourself there and build. It won't come easy and you as a people will have to do some horribly shitty things that will leave a negative impression on others of you for centuries but that's the tradeoff.
Full employment? No race on the planet has full employment. I love how some black people say they aren't racist and it's impossible for them to be so because of what happened to their ancestors then go and do stuff like this. You're asking for more than everyone else has and more than what would be considered fair yet try and claim you aren't saying you deserve more than others. It's laughable.
Capitalists rob every community that's how capitalism works.
Everybody living in impoverished areas wants better, safer housing and it's not only blacks that live in those conditions, there's whites, Hispanic, Asian all types who live in those conditions. Is it any less sad that a black man lives in a run down apartment with poor wiring than it is a white man lives without running water in Ohio? Your racist self would probably say yes and that shows your concern is with the plight for your people rather than the plight itself which is a selfish way to look at people and ironically is exactly what you accuse the entire white race of.
The education is out there, whether it's available in your area is another issue. Again your projecting your experiences to a world scale, just because you didn't get that education doesn't mean others around the country and world aren't. Also History is just a propaganda tool written by the winners.
exempt from service. So you A. want to be part of the society but don't want to be any part of protecting it when needed? Sounds reasonable :| And B. you're asking for something above and beyond that afforded to every other race again, hmm I thought there was a word for that oh well never mind.
But not of other people? Police brutality's fine as long as it's non black? Murder? You act like white people are still the biggest killers of black people in this country. Let me guess though it's somehow white people's fault that black people are killing each other. When one race starts fighting itself it's typically a result of it's own actions, when white people kill white people it's because of other white people usually.
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I'm guessing you'll ignore this or find a way to say it's not true but that just shows your stubbornness to be objective. Most races victimize their own race, they're more accessible since similar people stick together since our days as hunter/gatherers.
Yeah free em all, I mean screw if there's a legitimate reason for them to be there free them right alongside all the wrongfully imprisoned ones as well just to prove a point. You're probably one of the type though who disregards population demographics in relation to incarceration demographics and just jumps to the conclusion there's more black people in this prison then whites because everyone is racist against you instead of realizing if a black community is 80% of an area their incarceration rates will also be much higher than the other races. In areas with a higher white population than black there are more white people in those prisons, when there's a prison in an area with a heavy Hispanic demo that's the majority in the prison as well.
Everything you've written here implies you don't want equality or to be treated fair but rather you want your time "on top" as you'd call it and I don't blame you for that but call it what it is. You want black people to have a chance to be the deciders rather than white people anymore.
