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They are directly related, chakra chains come from the Gedo statue and so does their strong life force, therefore their body is directly related to Ashura and the Sage like the Senju.

Uzumaki have Gedo feats while Senju have potential for the Juubi's KKG. Ashura most likely had two children like Hagoromo, one child as ancestor of Senju while the other was ancestor of Uzumaki.

You know that Ashura and Indra born before Juubi even exist????

Hagoromo and Hamura born before Kaguya becoming Juubi.

Hagoromo never said anything about passing down Juubi's KKG to Ashura or Indra.

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Those talking of Hagoromo were not Juubi centric at all



Check back your Naruto manga details/thinking.
 
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You know that Ashura and Indra born before Juubi even exist????

Hagoromo and Hamura born before Kaguya becoming JJ.

Check back your Naruto manga details/thinking.

Read the manga, they were born after Kaguya ate their fruit, their chakra comes from the fruit and she wanted it back.
 

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Read the manga, they were born after Kaguya ate their fruit, their chakra comes from the fruit and she wanted it back.

Sure I know that but your points were base on Juubi. Juubi KKG this and that or GM this and that.



You making the most assumptions about this matters like you're an expert.

OK Hagoromo said "Later on, he also have two sons", But do you know about their time line? When actually this two were born? It can be his wife got pregnant when Hago and Hamura fought Juubi. Or even before that.
 

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Kaguya ate the fruit, Hagoromo and Hamura were born, Kaguya's became the juubi, then Indra and Ashura were born.

How come she didn't just kill Hagoromo and Hamura as babies?
 

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Read the manga, they were born after Kaguya ate their fruit, their chakra comes from the fruit and she wanted it back.

You guys are both right XD

Kaguya are the fruit then had Hagoromo and Hamura
Hagoromo had Indra and Ashura
Sometime after their birth( Indra and Ashura)Kaguya became the Juubi
 

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No they're not, Indra and Ashura's powers come from the fruit not from Otsutsuki. Everyone is Otsutsuki but only Hyuga have the Otsutsuki KKG.

Indra and Ashura are specifically from Hagormoo, not the fruit. The fruit is where chakra started for every kaguya.
 

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But there's more to than that. So say Kinishiki and Momoshiki? These Otsutsuki came from the same place and Momoshiki has both byukagan and rinnegan without being direct link to Hamura and Hagormoo. Kinishiki not only has the byukagan but he's able to go through dimensions apparently and use red will creation weapon, we don't even know where that ability came from either. These two Otsutsuki came from the same place too which sparks my curiosity on how?
It is unknown which line (Hagoromo's or Hamura's) that the Kaguya clan (Kimmimaro's clan) came from.
You said Hamura=Uzamaki. Hamura's a hyuuga and so are all his descents are mostly by nature. Especially a full blooded hyuuga like hinata.
Hamura's descendants are Hyuga's. Sure but no one knows for sure if it's just Hyuga's. Hagoromo is Uchiha and Senju. Kakashi(by rumors) said Hyuga was older than Uchiha's. And Uzumaki's are related to Senju's(distant relatives) it makes sense if Hyuga and Uzumaki was Hamura's side. While Senju and Uchiha is Hagoromo's side.
 

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No, not at all. That only applies to hagoromo and his bloodline, actually their powers are just water down/split off of kaguya's own power. Which is the fruit's power essentially, the original otsutsuki clan obviously didn't descend from kaguya. Who the hell knows where momo got the rinnegan, for all we know. he could've awaken it from eating the shinju's god fruit(The shinju from the boruto movie).
 

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Hamura's descendants are Hyuga's. Sure but no one knows for sure if it's just Hyuga's. Hagoromo is Uchiha and Senju. Kakashi(by rumors) said Hyuga was older than Uchiha's. And Uzumaki's are related to Senju's(distant relatives) it makes sense if Hyuga and Uzumaki was Hamura's side. While Senju and Uchiha is Hagoromo's side.

Then why wouldn't Hamura appear to naruto? Nevermind, so the rest of the otsutsiki are what again? Because momshiki and Kinishiki. Momoshiki himself has mokuton, byukagan and a rinnegan
No, not at all. That only applies to hagoromo and his bloodline, actually their powers are just water down/split off of kaguya's own power. Which is the fruit's power essentially, the original otsutsuki clan obviously didn't descend from kaguya. Who the hell knows where momo got the rinnegan, for all we know. he could've awaken it from eating the shinju's god fruit(The shinju from the boruto movie).
Kaguya is the founder of the Otsutsuki clan and was originally their leader. How can the clan not be apart of her?
 
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Kaguya is the founder of the Otsutsuki clan and was originally their leader. How can the clan not be apart of her?
Kaguya was never said to be the founder, just their leader. The otsutsuki at her time are just relatives, not descendants like i said.
 

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Kaguya is the founder of the Otsutsuki clan and was originally their leader. How can the clan not be apart of her?

She's not the founder of the Otsutsuki clan.. Was she even their leader?
 

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She's not the founder of the Otsutsuki clan.. Was she even their leader?

Databook said leader but I can't find founder though. She was the first to use chakra and people worship her as a god. You don't get much higher than that.
 

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Databook said leader but I can't find founder though. She was the first to use chakra and people worship her as a god. You don't get much higher than that.

That was on Earth, I don't know how many Otsutsukis are out there, but I don't think Kaguya is there leader.
 

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That was on Earth, I don't know how many Otsutsukis are out there, but I don't think Kaguya is there leader.
Databook said she was their clan leader. There might be factions of otsutsuki tho as momo and kin did their own thing.
 

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That was on Earth, I don't know how many Otsutsukis are out there, but I don't think Kaguya is there leader.

We only know that Kaguya gained chakra through the chakra fruit, and that's how the clan spread. I'm sure there are members like Momo/Kin left Hagoromoo and Hamura's followings and did their own thing.
Databook said she was their clan leader. There might be factions of otsutsuki tho as momo and kin did their own thing.
Basically this
 

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Uchiha, Senju, and Hyuuga are all Otsutsukis

They just ditched the Otsutsuki name
 

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I think it breaks down like this.


Kaguya

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Her two sons.

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Her two sons descendants.



Hargoromo: Patriarch of the Senju, Uzumaki and Uchiha Clans

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Senju and Uchiha
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Uzumaki
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Hamura
: Patriarch of the Otsutsuki (Moon Clan), Hyuga and Kaguya Clans.

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Kaguya

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Otsutsuki Clan of the Moon

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Then why wouldn't Hamura appear to naruto? Nevermind, so the rest of the otsutsiki are what again? Because momshiki and Kinishiki. Momoshiki himself has mokuton, byukagan and a rinnegan

Kaguya is the founder of the Otsutsuki clan and was originally their leader. How can the clan not be apart of her?
Because Naruto had to become Ashura as there was no Senju nor Uzumaki's left(other than Karin) and Madara messed up the transmigration.

What do you mean what are Otsutsuki's? Momo didn't have mokuton though and I think he had Rinnegan because of a chakra fruit he ate from another planet/dimension(think he said it in the movie) can't remember though. It seems every Otsutsuki have Byakugan though we'll except for Hagoromo
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