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This makes no sense. The black people living in the US right now never experienced slavery and it certainly isn't an invention of the white man. Black people enslaved other blacks before whites did so and so have middle easterners. Also blaming the current generation of whites that have literally nothing to do with slavery will not fix the problems the black community suffers from.

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Yea we may haven't experienced but just because slavery ended doesn't mean as soon as ut stopped everything was even because its not everything i listed happened as a result of slavery.

Also lol this is excuse number that white people love to make... Oh blah blah blah black people enslaved black people...I may fight my brother but that doesn't mean someone else can, and you made it seem like it was okay by using that excuse which is another problem... Africans did that as a result of being richer than the other and it was in a different time period while white people committed slavery in the modern era....

Not blaming the current white generation im just telling them why black people act and think how they do and ut us a result of hiw white people have acted abd thought and some still are that way and you dismissing how i a black person reasoning shows this
 

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Racism is a two way street ya know :coffee:
But I think the problem with the Ivory magazine is that it would be perpetuating a stereotype that ppl already believe when it comes to whites.

I mean when u hear about an ethnic supremecy what skin color comes to your mind? :coffee:

imo I don't think having pride in ones race should be a thing at all. We are all humans each different no matter the skin color
 

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The first 3 points don't really apply to a difference in education in current times though, that all may have been perfectly valid points in the 30's. Point 4 is a personal issue and yes it's a valid one but it hasn't done anything but had a negative impact, refusing to learn because you dislike the person providing the information doesn't help anyone and only hurts you. If there is any correlation to IQ it's income levels and education availability. The fact more low income areas are populated by blacks would make that stat skew against them though it's not reflective of their personal capabilities but reflective of the cultural/social problems facing the poor. Those areas are not solely black, I know people like to say "they're" keeping these areas this way to hurt the black people but it's that they're trying to secure their future work forces and as you showed in point 5 the poor black community seems much more willing to go along with the idea.

"when people can't get hired because white rather hire white so it causes problems" And this, so when blacks prefer to hire blacks it's not racism it's brotherhood/camaraderie and we gotta look out for each other cus no one else will? The exact mentality I mentioned in my first post, "It's not ok for you to be exclusive to me" 5 minutes later, "Sorry, we don't want your type" Also I'm sure it's truer in certain areas but it's not true all whites would rather hire a white person, you're projecting and attributing feelings and thoughts to people that are your own.

Fail again, you aren't Black so you don't know why black people do what they do and why the way they are the way they are and it stems back to slavery... Slavery had a domino effect...

My points were all true and valid... Why would black people in America starting from the end of slavery want to learn or work for their oppressor... Thats ridiculous as of the times now its not the same but its not perfect either but that thinking is a result of black people's history when dealing with white people...

My girlfriend is white and im talking to her now and we have had this conversation before and she tells me she dislike black girls and only black girls but she dates black guys and only black guys so even though you are dating outside of your race or have black friends you can still be racist towards them because slave owners did **** their slaves
 
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Racism is a two way street ya know :coffee:
But I think the problem with the Ivory magazine is that it would be perpetuating a stereotype that ppl already believe when it comes to whites.

I mean when u hear about an ethnic supremecy what skin color comes to your mind? :coffee:

imo I don't think having pride in ones race should be a thing at all. We are all humans each different no matter the skin color

Thats white people's on fought they are thought of in that light
 
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Well that is true when one tends to have power others hate them for it but not because they have power but how they achieved this power and how they used their power and white people have achieved it by doing foul things and have used it in the worst ways...

None of us were here to know exactly how they became the industrializing race. What they've done since has been scrupulous but as I said to believe any other race wouldn't have done the same if the roles had been reversed is naïve. Power corrupts, you talk as if the first white person to realize they could order others around and they'd listen set out that day forth with the sole goal to oppress and rule over all other people. I don't believe that, I believe like any other race that were to be given a chance, the white race became infatuated with their power and when they saw a threat of it being removed some of the horrible shitty things any and everyone is capable of came about. From there greed took over and out of a fear of relinquishing the power and a fear of what the others may do to them if power was lost came the shitty behavior. Every race did this in there area of influence somehow the white race was able to take this practice/mentality and cross the lands with it. Chinese tried to do the same to the Mongols, Koreans, Japanese etc. Africans did it to Greeks and other African countries, the reason they aren't the major power now is somewhere along the line they settled for the amount of land they'd gotten and set, whereas some white people decided to see how far they could go.

Also I meant to include this before you keep saying white this white that and use the old slavery days, you do know back then Irish and Italians(both white) were treated similarly to freed Africans after the civil war right? Go look up a list of old slurs from that time and frequently you'll see Irish were referred to as Green N*****, the British and Germans hated us just like the black people.
 

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None of us were here to know exactly how they became the industrializing race. What they've done since has been scrupulous but as I said to believe any other race wouldn't have done the same if the roles had been reversed is naïve. Power corrupts, you talk as if the first white person to realize they could order others around and they'd listen set out that day forth with the sole goal to oppress and rule over all other people. I don't believe that, I believe like any other race that were to be given a chance, the white race became infatuated with their power and when they saw a threat of it being removed some of the horrible shitty things any and everyone is capable of came about. From there greed took over and out of a fear of relinquishing the power and a fear of what the others may do to them if power was lost came the shitty behavior. Every race did this in there area of influence somehow the white race was able to take this practice/mentality and cross the lands with it. Chinese tried to do the same to the Mongols, Koreans, Japanese etc. Africans did it to Greeks and other African countries, the reason they aren't the major power now is somewhere along the line they settled for the amount of land they'd gotten and set, whereas some white people decided to see how far they could go.

Also I meant to include this before you keep saying white this white that and use the old slavery days, you do know back then Irish and Italians(both white) were treated similarly to freed Africans after the civil war right? Go look up a list of old slurs from that time and frequently you'll see Irish were referred to as Green N*****, the British and Germans hated us just like the black people.

From my understanding, White have done the worst things in this world so fir that they are thought of as racists and being the most evil and negative of people, not everyone is the same way but its part of white people's history to hate another race so...lol i don't care about how Italians were treated and how Irish were treated because they have been accepted black people still have to bridge the gap...world history is suppose to be about the world's history but all schools seem ti teach us is white history, black people literally have a month of time given to us to value learn and appreciate our history, the very religion of Christianity was forced on us... White people changed black culture and we are exactly how you wanted us to be and that is at the bottom and against each other
 
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Thats white people's on fought they are thought of in that light

>_> no argument there

Still going back to the magazine topic. I am pretty sure that magazines such as Jet or Ebony were founded because blacks used to not get proper coverage in printed media. They were discriminated against, and some still may feel the same way. Just look at the commotion at the Oscars XD

History just won't die :coffee:
 

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White people won't be the majority within the next 50 years lets see how they deal with that
 

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White pride from what I've seen is people saying shit like whites are superior, more civilized blah blah blah.
 

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A white person can go there entire life without ever experiencing racism towards themselves first hand while every single black person in America has and will experience racism more than once...
 

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The difference between black pride and white pride is that black pride came about in response of being 3/5ths of a person, of having slavery justified by crooked phrenology, and after years of segregation and being seen as a sub-species of human. White pride came about in response of black pride, simple as that. Now, do I think people of European/aryan decent shouldn't be allowed to have pride of their origin or skin color? No, everyone should have that right, but that pride comes with a history like a double edged sword.
 

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I believe the reason why black people dislike white only magazines is because it might remind them of segregation. On the other hand, black magazines are meant to help black models that are not given the same oppurtunities as other types of models.

I saw someone who tried to liken the situation of African Americans to the Jews. Jews were persecuted, discriminated against, and killed but they received a safe haven from the UN in Palestine. African Americans are contniously persecuted and discriminated against. For example, the assasssination of MLK, assassination of Malcolm X, disbanding the Black Panther Party, planting drugs in black communites, then creating The War on Drugs, etc.
 

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All white people are racist.

Yeah, I'm just the pinnacle of racism. Whilst being a total c*nt by befriending people of all sorts of ethnicities, I changed my name to Prejudice and starting building Muslamic ray gun detectors.
 

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Seriously, Blacks nowadays act like they were all slaves and that they all suffered from being enslaved.
You have no idea how it is to be a slave so don't act like you do.
Most are just whiney little thugs who blame Whites because they failed at live.

The situation Blacks are in, is because of themselves.
If they would want a better life they would stop acting like they do.
It's not because evil Whites. You should be thankful to life in a White country. Would you rather live in Africa? Hell no.

And ofc we mostly teach White history, because guess what, we live in White countries. That's normal to teach the history of your own country.
Why should I care about what happened in other non-White countries, like seriouly who really cares.
Like you don't care what happened in White countries.

If all White people were racist, you wouldn't have the life you have now.
Good luck if you would get deported to Africa.
So no, Whites aren't racist.

And btw, it's not racist if a White person says they're proud to be White.
Why shouldn't they be? Their parents are White, their grandparents and so on.
I honour my ancestors, because of them I'm here.
 

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From my understanding, White have done the worst things in this world so fir that they are thought of as racists and being the most evil and negative of people, not everyone is the same way but its part of white people's history to hate another race so...lol i don't care about how Italians were treated and how Irish were treated because they have been accepted black people still have to bridge the gap...world history is suppose to be about the world's history but all schools seem ti teach us is white history, black people literally have a month of time given to us to value learn and appreciate our history, the very religion of Christianity was forced on us... White people changed black culture and we are exactly how you wanted us to be and that is at the bottom and against each other

you live in a majority white country mother ****er. That being said stop telling me you were only taught white histroy


I was taught about Tubman and the underground railroad
I was taught about Nat Turner's rebellion
I was taught about Malcolm X, Gandhi, Martin Luther King etc.
I was taught that white people forced black women to be sterilized.



**** off with that whole white history bullshit
 

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I believe the reason why black people dislike white only magazines is because it might remind them of segregation. On the other hand, black magazines are meant to help black models that are not given the same oppurtunities as other types of models.

I saw someone who tried to liken the situation of African Americans to the Jews. Jews were persecuted, discriminated against, and killed but they received a safe haven from the UN in Palestine. African Americans are contniously persecuted and discriminated against. For example, the assasssination of MLK, assassination of Malcolm X, disbanding the Black Panther Party, planting drugs in black communites, then creating The War on Drugs, etc.
Mass Incarceration and the New Jim Crow... These people don't understand @bold
Yeah, I'm just the pinnacle of racism. Whilst being a total c*nt by befriending people of all sorts of ethnicities, I changed my name to Prejudice and starting building Muslamic ray gun detectors.
I'm not saying you're white because you're racist but that you're racist because you're white. I'm not saying you discriminate or anything those are just aspects of racism. We are all products of our environment. Whites are oppressors and nonwhites are the oppressed. Whiteness is what I am talking about. Not individuals but the skin. If nonwhites can be racist then nobody is racist, whites are the only racist. Yes there is such a thing as "internalized racism" for nonwhites.
Seriously, Blacks nowadays act like they were all slaves and that they all suffered from being enslaved.
You have no idea how it is to be a slave so don't act like you do.
Most are just whiney little thugs who blame Whites because they failed at live.

The situation Blacks are in, is because of themselves.
If they would want a better life they would stop acting like they do.
It's not because evil Whites. You should be thankful to life in a White country. Would you rather live in Africa? Hell no.

And ofc we mostly teach White history, because guess what, we live in White countries. That's normal to teach the history of your own country.
Why should I care about what happened in other non-White countries, like seriouly who really cares.
Like you don't care what happened in White countries.

If all White people were racist, you wouldn't have the life you have now.
Good luck if you would get deported to Africa.
So no, Whites aren't racist.

And btw, it's not racist if a White person says they're proud to be White.
Why shouldn't they be? Their parents are White, their grandparents and so on.
I honour my ancestors, because of them I'm here.
Africa is not so bad except for the DR of Congo, unless you're think Africa has starving kids everywhere. All white people are racist. If all white people acknowledged their privileges and the ongoing racism then blacks wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. You're the bonified definition of someone who believes in colorblindless.
you live in a majority white country mother ****er. That being said stop telling me you were only taught white histroy


I was taught about Tubman and the underground railroad
I was taught about Nat Turner's rebellion
I was taught about Malcolm X, Gandhi, Martin Luther King etc.
I was taught that white people forced black women to be sterilized.



**** off with that whole white history bullshit

I was only taught white history in school. I learned more about black history in one semester of college than the 12 wasteful school years. White history is taught as the core curriculum, students are required to learn about American(white) history. There's not much talk about Ella Baker, Angela Davis, Malcom X, Fred Hampton, the Black Panther Party, Black people contribution to the American revolution, Du Bois, etc. No instead it glorifies whiteness and teach black children that they were inferior one time and did not help make this country or have no achievements. Glorifying people who owned slaves. Not only race but there should be more women in the history books.

At best they would teach about nonwhites in a chapter "within" a section. At least they can do is expand on discrimination too. There is no mention about the Black Codes, China Exclusion Act, etc. There is all this talk about white achievement while a lot of the bad dirty shit is swept under the rug halfway.
 

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Mass Incarceration and the New Jim Crow... These people don't understand @bold

I'm not saying you're white because you're racist but that you're racist because you're white. I'm not saying you discriminate or anything those are just aspects of racism. We are all products of our environment. Whites are oppressors and nonwhites are the oppressed. Whiteness is what I am talking about. Not individuals but the skin. If nonwhites can be racist then nobody is racist, whites are the only racist. Yes there is such a thing as "internalized racism" for nonwhites.

Africa is not so bad except for the DR of Congo, unless you're think Africa has starving kids everywhere. All white people are racist. If all white people acknowledged their privileges and the ongoing racism then blacks wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. You're the bonified definition of someone who believes in colorblindless.


I was only taught white history in school. I learned more about black history in one semester of college than the 12 wasteful school years. White history is taught as the core curriculum, students are required to learn about American(white) history. There's not much talk about Ella Baker, Angela Davis, Malcom X, Fred Hampton, the Black Panther Party, Black people contribution to the American revolution, Du Bois, etc. No instead it glorifies whiteness and teach black children that they were inferior one time and did not help make this country or have no achievements. Glorifying people who owned slaves. Not only race but there should be more women in the history books.

At best they would teach about nonwhites in a chapter "within" a section. At least they can do is expand on discrimination too. There is no mention about the Black Codes, China Exclusion Act, etc. There is all this talk about white achievement while a lot of the bad dirty shit is swept under the rug halfway.

You didn't pay attention in American history, that's not my problem.


What is the difference between the black panthers and the modern KKK?



Answer me: In A hypothetical world where all white's acknowledge their "privilege" what then? What is the goal of that?
 
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You didn't pay attention in American history, that's not my problem.


What is the difference between the black panthers and the modern KKK?



Answer me: In A hypothetical world where all white's acknowledge their "privilege" what then? What is the goal of that?

Then we can move slightly forward we would still need to deconstruct systematic oppression, put the marginalized people in the center, and maybe then we move forward.

The difference between the KKk and Black Panther Party was that the KKK was fueled by hatred, racism, and ignorance. While the BBP were against oppression,war, etc.

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We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
We want full employment for our people.
We want an end to the robbery by the Capitalists of our Black Community.
We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.
We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.
We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.
We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
 
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