About Burgess, Sabo who I believe is in the same general level as Doflamingo felt like he'd have his hands full with Burgess. Bear in mind that Doflamingo owned Law just as badly as what Sabo did to Burgess. Even though he's obviously superior, Sabo does feel like he's a formidable foe. So, I think should be decently strong.
For the record, even I don't even think he'd be as strong as M3 but Sanji severely lacks in feats and so are almost all other fighters in Zoro's league. So, I choose Burgess for the time being.
Then why wouldn't u pick someone like killer Hawkins or appo who seem to be over burgess
And also law did way better against doffy then burgess did against sabo come on you can't be serious about that statement law single handedly fended off an admiral and doffy at same time while protecting both straw hats and Cesar and that's not even when luffy and law were fighting doffy
They're the one who I was referring to when I said people in Zoro's league lack in feats.
And also law did way better against doffy then burgess did against sabo come on you can't be serious about that statement law single handedly fended off an admiral and doffy at same time while protecting both straw hats and Cesar and that's not even when luffy and law were fighting doffy
About Burgess, Sabo who I believe is in the same general level as Doflamingo felt like he'd have his hands full with Burgess. Bear in mind that Doflamingo owned Law just as badly as what Sabo did to Burgess. Even though he's obviously superior, Sabo does feel like he's a formidable foe. So, I think should be decently strong.
For the record, even I don't even think he'd be as strong as M3 but Sanji severely lacks in feats and so are almost all other fighters in Zoro's league. So, I choose Burgess for the time being.
Not that I believe it but People mostly believe they're of similar caliber because they were paired against Wadatsumi.
It is relevant to discussion u listed both as the strongest ppl zoro can defeat ... And it goes with the statement u made about both of them I'm asking u to explain yourself so I as a viewer can understand where you gouge law and burgesses strength
The reason why zoro and Sanji were not relevant is because you believe Sanji to not be in same league as zoro and zoro would have easy time defeating him
, I guess an enemy who Luffy considers strong and looks like he's excited to see has strength is just fodder... He was fodder for Zoro I guess, but he was fare greater than any opponent in FI bar Hordy, so once again second strongest.
Nothing suggest he was stronger than Wadamafatguy.
And Dressrosa, Pica was described at the top/strongest executive, once again being the second strongest... Sanji did have bad match ups after FI but if anything it does show that he's leagues below Vergo and Doffy even if they were just skirmishes, but that's exactly what Zoro had with Fuji and contended with him well.
EDIT: The title of the chapter is actually "Highest Executive Pica"... fodder though right?
OH BOY I'M GENUINELY EXCITED SOMEONE BROUGHT BACK THE HIGHEST EXECUTIVE ARGUMENT.
Highest executive is not a title that refers to Pica solely, but refers collectively to the Four Seats of the Donquixote Pirates.
Here Leo confirms that there are 10 Officers in the Donquixote Pirates, with the Heart Seat members being the Elite Officers and Vergo being a former Elite Officer. Highest Executive is synonymous with Elite Officer, the title shared by all four.
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Also note that the title of the chapter is Chief Officer Pica in the much more reliable *********** and in the official Viz chapter, it's apparently simply "Executive Officer Pica."
It's actually both complimenting each other. Hax+stupid=pretty good chance of dying. And it doesn't diminish the quality of a victory from Law either. Being too stupid to properly handle hax would just be a weakness in combat. The way you're talking about it implies it'd be less legitimate than beating Luffy by outmatching him in sheer power, which isn't true by any measure.
That too because of the fact that Luffy doesn't start a battle with G4. Law's only chance of winning is to finish his business before Luffy could go all out.
Doflamingo beat Law because he's in a completely different league than him. The same applies for Luffy and Doflamingo as well. When you have Doflamingo severely weakened in both capabilities and health, and he still comes out on top against Luffy, then it shows that Luffy isn't on Doflamingo's level when he's 100%. And yes, Doflamingo did come out on top. You can argue that Luffy has more raw power than Doflamingo, and you'd more than likely be right, but Doflamingo's amazing endurance is what places him in a league above Luffy as he can just outlast Luffy's strongest ability seen so far through enduring some attacks and deflecting others, and then, without dozens of other fighters protecting Luffy, slaughter the young pirate when he's passed out and unable to move as his Haki recharges.
Luffy clearly did far better than anything Law accomplished on his own. It's because of that reason that I put Luffy far above Law not because I don't understand how Law's hax would work.
This reason isn't just weak, it's invalid. You're saying that Luffy put up a better fight against Doflamingo than the fight Law put up against Doffy on his own. Except...Luffy's fight wasn't even on his own. Idk if you conveniently forgot or chose to ignore, but Luffy only did that well because of Law's Gamma Knife. We have absolutely no idea how well Luffy would fair against 100% Doflamingo. He might do just as good, or he might get curbstomped just as badly as Law did. Considering that while severely weakened, Doflamingo still came out on top and in far better position, its probably the latter.
A more direct comparison is comparing Luffy's and Law's capabilities. What Luffy can achieve with raw power over an extended period of time, Law can achieve with hax in a much shorter period of time. Luffy's powerful King Kong Gun leveling a part of Dressrosa, his ability to move at insane speeds, Law can achieve the same results through things like large scale cuts and teleporting. Hell, by comparison, Luffy's entire Gear 4 assault didn't even do that much more damage than Gamma Knife.
Just because Law doesn't fight as long as Luffy does doesn't mean he doesn't fight as well.
Lmao, certain someone in this thread actually said the gap b/w Ryuma "someone who fought on equal terms with Zoro" and Absalom "someone who Sanji fodder stompped" is inconclusive. That just shows how far you guys have fallen to make Sanji look stronger than he actually is.[/B]
Sanji did not fodder-stomp Absalom though. He pretty much had a slighter harder time than Zoro only because he was also protecting Nami. Meanwhile, Zoro handled Ryuma in a battle that lasted like 2 minutes. The reason Absalom and Ryuma are inconclusive is because both were just side fights, and not main events. Thriller Bark saw the deviation from the previous M3 pattern because the main events revolved around Moriah, Oars, and Kuma, while Oda sidelined Moriah's main subordinates(one of whom went to Usopp) rather than make them main events as he usually does.
How was Sanji equal to jinbe ? All jinbe did was collide with luffy and Sanji got in middle right ? How does this mean Sanji is equal to jinbe.? This is first I've ever heard Sanji being equal to jinbe let a lone compared to him
Or r u talking about when they fought wasabi ? Because still don't c how that equates to them being equal
It does give them equal portrayal since Oda chose to have Jinbe and Sanji fight together, even though it would probably make more sense for Jinbe to participate in the fight against Hody. Oda does this stuff for a reason. Also, what feats does Ace have that makes him stronger than Zoro? Zoro seems to have stronger offense since Entei and Saizen Sekai are, based on feats, close to equal in destructive capability, and Zoro has even stronger attacks with Asura. Zoro also has better speed feats and durability feats.
It does give them equal portrayal since Oda chose to have Jinbe and Sanji fight together, even though it would probably make more sense for Jinbe to participate in the fight against Hody. Oda does this stuff for a reason. Also, what feats does Ace have that makes him stronger than Zoro? Zoro seems to have stronger offense since Entei and Saizen Sekai are, based on feats, close to equal in destructive capability, and Zoro has even stronger attacks with Asura. Zoro also has better speed feats and durability feats.
I've seen you say before that Jinbe and Sanji are close to equal, so idk why you're arguing against me. You're comparing a one page fight to one of the main match-ups in a saga.
It does give them equal portrayal since Oda chose to have Jinbe and Sanji fight together, even though it would probably make more sense for Jinbe to participate in the fight against Hody. Oda does this stuff for a reason. Also, what feats does Ace have that makes him stronger than Zoro? Zoro seems to have stronger offense since Entei and Saizen Sekai are, based on feats, close to equal in destructive capability, and Zoro has even stronger attacks with Asura. Zoro also has better speed feats and durability feats.
The difference is that they needed to work together to defeat Oars. Sanji didn't need help against Wadatsumi. Asura is s mode, when Zoro was fighting Kaku, he used an Asura attack to block an attack and then he attacked Kaku. Also, you ignored the rest of my post.
Sanji--------Killer/Capone(depends on who is stronger)
Luffy--------Law
Zoro--------Sanji
Law--------Zoro
Doffy-------Luffy
Sabo-------Jozu, possibly Marco
Ace--------Zoro
Ivankov----Pica
Croc-------Dunno
Kuma-------Sanji
Sanji--------Killer/Capone(depends on who is stronger)
Luffy--------Law
Zoro--------Sanji
Law--------Zoro
Doffy-------Luffy
Sabo-------Jozu, possibly Marco
Ace--------Zoro
Ivankov----Pica
Croc-------Dunno
Kuma-------Sanji
Lmao this dumbass. What part of "can," did you not read from OP? I'm not gonna explain anything to you because i know how much of a stubborn idiot you are so I'd rather elaborate to someone else.
