EMS-Rinnegan Madara vs. EMS-Rinnegan Sasuke

[Radice]

Rinnegan Madara doesn't has Juubi power and immortality
The Juubi increases infinitely Madara's stamina, power and speed

Rinnegan Sasuke is miles away from Rinnegan Madara without Juubi.
Even with the Juubi in his body Madara can't counter Sasuke and received two fatal blows from rinnegan Sasuke

Non jinchuuriki madara has no chance against sasuke



Hell why this topic is a thing when this happened?

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If JJ Madara wasn't immortal then Sasuke kills him rather easily. Without super regenaration from the Juubi, Madara just stays cut in half or gets cut into several little pieces by Sasuke....


Sasuke PS is superior in every aspect like agility, strength and power..
A chunk of the Meteor that Sasuke's PS cuts dwarfs multiple mountains.
Madara's Perfect Susanoo shouldn't be compare to Sasuke's PS when feats put Sasuke's PS far higher than his.
Madara's greatest feat is cutting through mountain tops while Sasuke's is cutting through something so huge even the rubble was dwarfing mountain ranges.


Kaguya? This is Joke.

If Madaras were in Sasuke's place against Kaguya his PS would get trashed much more easily.

Kaguya can destroy a PS with a single bone like she did with Kakashi.

 

[NarutoX28]

Ameno is much more useful against Rinnegan users than Limbo is, Sasuke can channel Ninjutsu through PS and also use Yin-Yang Release through it, and can use more Rikudou Chakra overall.

Nope, Madara loses.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

One question can Madara's Susanoo fly. Yeah as if getting his Susanoo smashed with Ash Bones from a Godess is a big letdown from Sasuke when he is up against a Godess. Sasuke's at least lucky he made it out because he can take the aerial route. Madara would have to be a sitting duck while his Susanoo gets trashed.

Madara's Susanoo is roughly the same size as Sasuke's despite drawing inconsistencies so. If you are comparing the two Susanoo's don't compare Madara's preexisting one with Sasuke's new powered Susanoo after receiving the Rinnegan, do the previous one. Madara has shown to cut the roof of mountaintops at best, Sasuke got rid of all the meteor drops, something that took Oonoki all of his might to stop.

Now you tell me who is more superior.

can you prove that madaras cant fly? he was never put in a situation where he had to run away. your telling me that you think only sasukes and obitos miraculously can fly but they excluded madara from this? susano's change depending on what the user needs ex: quick defense just ribs, need to cover up kurama then it comes out like a fox armor.

EDIT: not even really important but just thought id put this out there cause i see it brought up alot but honestly id rather that we consider madara and sasukes susano to be the same size because if madaras really was bigger I'm sure wed have every sasuke fanboy saying that sasukes susano now runs circles around madaras and that madara wouldn't even be able to move that huge thing in the time it would take sasuke to launch a full barrage

wrong, sasuke was cutting up jj madars CT in which its rubbles were bigger than mountains let alone the full sized rock. that takes a shit on madaras ps best feat with is slicing some mountain tops with its shockwaves.

kaguya=/= madara so dont mention her. madaras ps got removed by hashiramas buddha, kaguya shits on it and that buddha together.


i wasnt referring to bijju ps(though in one of the op scans of sasuke was bijju ps so if thats allowed sasuke literally one shots)

bold. manga disagrees

sasuke can also use ninjutsu like chidori via ps which matched bijju dama from Rsm avatar

sasuke also took a bunch of swings at each meteor to destroy them you mention this feat as if he did it with one slash and the coming shockwave after? if madaras shockwave alone could destroy mountain tops and change the very landscape of earth I'm 100% sure that several direct swings could destroy meteors and honestly its not even a point worth arguing over because i thought that was pretty common sense thinking.

and madara can use shadow clones and summon meteors from within susanoo and 25 susanoo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> susano chidori

 

[Radice]

Madara using shadow clone with Susano'o = Filler Game.


Sasuke's susano'o can summon meteors and rocks bigger as Bijuus like did in VOTE Summoning 9 Chibaku Tensei to the battlefield.

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[Madarauchiwa]

Madara using shadow clone with Susano'o = Filler Game.


Sasuke's susano'o can summon meteors and rocks bigger as Bijuus like did in VOTE Summoning 9 Chibaku Tensei to the battlefield.

nah its not like madara had 25 susano against the 5 kage or anything in the manga. my bad...............:kk:

 

[DHOH]

lol what a joke..

Experience? Adult Sasuke has 15 years of experience..
Ameno is a one shot
Sasuke takes his Susanoo to another level

Not even close

 

[Joon]

Sasuke wins low diff.

Not only does he have the rinnegan but he received half of hogoromo's senjutsu enhanced chakra. Madara stands no real chance

Well, Madara, at the time. was the Juubi Jinchuuriki, along with poessing Both the Sage's Senjutsu and having Rinnegan.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

lol what a joke..

Experience? Adult Sasuke has 15 years of experience..
Ameno is a one shot
Sasuke takes his Susanoo to another level

Not even close

if this is adult sasuke i only give him the win if he has 2 arms.

you all know damn well a one armed sasuke gets rekt by madara. there will come a point in the battle where sasuke is gonna need that second hand against someone like madara he's not fighting fodder like those otosuki guys

 

[Radice]

nah its not like madara had 25 susano against the 5 kage or anything in the manga. my bad

Madara was using 25 REGULAR CLONES Susano'o against the Kages.

Madara can only make regular susano'o clones. Not PS clones.

The fives Kages destroyed the clones easily...

These clones are a joke comparing to a single PS.

 

[Radice]

Hell why this topic is a thing when this happened when Madara faced a 16 years old Sasuke withiout Rinnegan mastery?

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[lndra]

Sauce > Madz

 

[DHOH]

if this is adult sasuke i only give him the win if he has 2 arms.

you all know damn well a one armed sasuke gets rekt by madara. there will come a point in the battle where sasuke is gonna need that second hand against someone like madara he's not fighting fodder like those otosuki guys

Why wouldn't it be adult Sasuke??? Does adult Sasuke not have EMS and Rinnengan?

How did one arm slow him down??? When he actually got much stronger, faster and better Taijutsu!

None JJ Madara is fodder to those otosuki guys!!

 

[Madarauchiwa]

Madara was using 25 REGULAR CLONES Susano'o against the Kages.

Madara can only make regular susano'o clones. Not PS clones.

The fives Kages destroyed the clones easily...

These clones are a joke comparing to a single PS.

destroyed them easily.....is that before or after they all nearly died? lol yes plot did allow ohnoki at the end to come out and pull one massive super impressive jinton but come on now buddy easily is the wrong word to use here.

and 25 regular susano clones coming at you while you contend with 1 PS is still leagues above what any one person in naruto can handle except kaguya

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

can you prove that madaras cant fly? he was never put in a situation where he had to run away. your telling me that you think only sasukes and obitos miraculously can fly but they excluded madara from this? susano's change depending on what the user needs ex: quick defense just ribs, need to cover up kurama then it comes out like a fox armor.

EDIT: not even really important but just thought id put this out there cause i see it brought up alot but honestly id rather that we consider madara and sasukes susano to be the same size because if madaras really was bigger I'm sure wed have every sasuke fanboy saying that sasukes susano now runs circles around madaras and that madara wouldn't even be able to move that huge thing in the time it would take sasuke to launch a full barrage

sasuke also took a bunch of swings at each meteor to destroy them you mention this feat as if he did it with one slash and the coming shockwave after? if madaras shockwave alone could destroy mountain tops and change the very landscape of earth I'm 100% sure that several direct swings could destroy meteors and honestly its not even a point worth arguing over because i thought that was pretty common sense thinking.

and madara can use shadow clones and summon meteors from within susanoo and 25 susanoo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> susano chidori

Madara's Susanoo hasn't shown the ability to fly. It doesn't matter hard situation or not his Susanoo has shown that he cannot fly so I am only going by the feats demonstrated in the manga or stated in the Databook. None which have mplied Madara's Susanoo can fly. Both Sasuke's and Kakashi's were Rikudo buffed, this might explain why theirs can fly but anyways Madara's Susanoo is not any where on par with them. All them Shadow Clone Susanoo's are much weaker compared to Sasuke PS. Flying gives your Susanoo an advantage to attack and defend attacks on a whole new level.

Madara destroying mountaintops cannot be compared to the destructible level that Sasuke's Susanoo has shown as the meteors. All of them which have been cut down. One slash from Sasuke PS could destroy the wole mountan compared to just some mountaintops.

Madara using shadow clone with Susano'o = Filler Game.

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His wood clones can use Susanoo as well. How did he have 25 then?

 

[King Of Pop]

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sasuke also took a bunch of swings at each meteor to destroy them you mention this feat as if he did it with one slash and the coming shockwave after?

him not using one slash to do it doesnt matter as what he was cutting is much bigger than what madara cut

he diced it in half, then cut each half into pieces

if madaras shockwave alone could destroy mountain tops and change the very landscape of earth I'm 100% sure that several direct swings could destroy meteors and honestly its not even a point worth arguing over because i thought that was pretty common sense thinking.

it cut mountain tops with shockwaves doesnt matter than rubbles are bigger than those mountains via size. massive difference between both.

and madara can use shadow clones and summon meteors from within susanoo and 25 susanoo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> susano chidori

his clones were getting punched by the likes tsunade and raikage, so no threat to sasuke who doesnt have to fight all of them, just warp behind the real madaras soosano and end it.

 

[Radice]

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His wood clones can use Susanoo as well. How did he have 25 then?

Lol

Dude i just confused limbo with shadow clones.

Limbo with Susano'o was filler game...

 

[Madarauchiwa]

Why wouldn't it be adult Sasuke??? Does adult Sasuke not have EMS and Rinnengan?

How did one arm slow him down??? When he actually got much stronger, faster and better Taijutsu!

None JJ Madara is fodder to those otosuki guys!!

idk it was stated they were stronger during the war while they were being handed out fresh powers and were on their tippy toes. sasuke only got better at using his ameno and a little faster now that he dropped that arm weight lol but i rank him a little higher because although maybe he isn't as sharp as he was during the war he's definitely got 15 years of more practice and you only get wiser with age.


and guy madara isn't fodder to anybody in any state calm down over there. the otsukis weakness was taijutsu and madara stomped FTG users in taijutsu while they used FTG so these guys will be cake and his gunbai can reflect jutsu so whatever the little guy throws at him gets bounced back and they'll get stuck in a loop lol

 

[Awkward Linguist]

If you disregard plot, then logically shouldn't all Rinnegan's have the same abilities in the end? It was only for plot that Sasuke was given access to Ameno and Madara was given the inferior doujutsu Limbo. I'm mean shit, Kishi would never allow an already overpowered madara to have access to ameno, so he forced madara to act like he was foreign to the technique (even though logically he should be able to use, just as Sasuke should be able to use limbo).​

 

[Joon]

Hell why this topic is a thing when this happened when Madara faced a 16 years old Sasuke withiout Rinnegan mastery?

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He was facing against Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[DHOH]

idk it was stated they were stronger during the war while they were being handed out fresh powers and were on their tippy toes. sasuke only got better at using his ameno and a little faster now that he dropped that arm weight lol but i rank him a little higher because although maybe he isn't as sharp as he was during the war he's definitely got 15 years of more practice and you only get wiser with age.


and guy madara isn't fodder to anybody in any state calm down over there. the otsukis weakness was taijutsu and madara stomped FTG users in taijutsu while they used FTG so these guys will be cake and his gunbai can reflect jutsu so whatever the little guy throws at him gets bounced back and they'll get stuck in a loop lol

You mean a sage mode enhance Madara and JJ Madara stomp ftg users.. EMS -rinnengan Madara would get tagged and killed..

The rest of your post isn't worth responding to. Gunboat reflecting Momshiki jutsu.. Gtfo