Gauging Boruto's Current Strength

[chaos control]

OT:
Its still not confirmed that Kawaki is the only culprit here.It is highly possible that kawaki has got comrade/comrades who may be fighting against naruto and sasuke somewhere else.

Its early to conclude anything out of 3 pages of the latest chapter.There is no way boruto can surpass naruto or sasuke.

He's Akatsuki level at best, I would say just below Nagato

Nagato level

Probably around SM Naruto lvl(pain arc). Maybe more powerful, who knows. It can't be determined with just those pages.

Why are you guys setting limits on Kawaki's and Boruto's power when we've seen nothing from them? Saying stuff like "there's no way they can surpass Naruto and Sasuke " or saying "Nagato level at best" is stupid at this point. This is why every new development gets dubbed illogical or an "asspull" by fans. It is because you set limits on characters way ahead of time that the manga never actually set , and then you get mad later on when the manga does not conform to your made up limits (that I reiterate were never set by the manga).

Thus the fanmade concept of an "asspull" is born.

Here is what the definition of an "asspull" essentially is:

"Asspull": (noun) A violation within a manga of limits and rules that were predetermined by fans of the series long before any canonical actions or rules were established

 

[shelke]

Seriously that comment is everywhere.................. Hinata's boob is a serious thing where people are dropping the series based on her design and Sasuke's too :lol :lol :lol !!!

Jesus, tell me you are joking? It is even worse than I thought!

 

[SenseiSama]

Why are you guys setting limits on Kawaki's and Boruto's power when we've seen nothing from them? Saying stuff like "there's no way they can surpass Naruto and Sasuke " or saying "Nagato level at best" is stupid at this point. This is why every new development gets dubbed illogical or an "asspull" by fans. It is because you set limits on characters way ahead of time that the manga never actually set , and then you get mad later on when the manga does not conform to your made up limits (that I reiterate were never set by the manga).

Thus the fanmade concept of an "asspull" is born.

Here is what the definition of an "asspull" essentially is:

"Asspull": (noun) A violation within a manga of limits and rules that were predetermined by fans of the series long before any canonical actions or rules were established

Why ? Because only transmigrants have a higher level of power.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Why are you guys setting limits on Kawaki's and Boruto's power when we've seen nothing from them? Saying stuff like "there's no way they can surpass Naruto and Sasuke " or saying "Nagato level at best" is stupid at this point. This is why every new development gets dubbed illogical or an "asspull" by fans. It is because you set limits on characters way ahead of time that the manga never actually set , and then you get mad later on when the manga does not conform to your made up limits (that I reiterate were never set by the manga).

Thus the fanmade concept of an "asspull" is born.

Here is what the definition of an "asspull" essentially is:

"Asspull": (noun) A violation within a manga of limits and rules that were predetermined by fans of the series long before any canonical actions or rules were established

From all the people you quoted, I go first.

Not in my intention to set any level for them. It just empty talked from me/sarcasm.

edit: seem I'm not the first

 

[NextGenNinja]

Why are you guys setting limits on Kawaki's and Boruto's power when we've seen nothing from them? Saying stuff like "there's no way they can surpass Naruto and Sasuke " or saying "Nagato level at best" is stupid at this point. This is why every new development gets dubbed illogical or an "asspull" by fans. It is because you set limits on characters way ahead of time that the manga never actually set , and then you get mad later on when the manga does not conform to your made up limits (that I reiterate were never set by the manga).

Thus the fanmade concept of an "asspull" is born.

Here is what the definition of an "asspull" essentially is:

"Asspull": (noun) A violation within a manga of limits and rules that were predetermined by fans of the series long before any canonical actions or rules were established

This guy gets it. U_U

 

[Ansatsuken]

This guy gets it. U_U

How about the maker of this thread, You?

If you shared the same thinking with Chaos Control, this there shouldnt exist.

 

[chaos control]

Why ? Because only transmigrants have a higher level of power.

There you go with assertions that were never established in the manga. Where was it ever established that only transmigrants have high power levels?
Obito wasn't a transmigrant and he was one of the strongest characters in the manga (both with and without the juubi). Even BM Naruto still needed assistance from Kakashi to fight him. Obito was able to actually steal some rikudou chakara and bijuu chakara from Rikudou Madara. With said chakara , he was later (indirectly through Kakashi) able to even damage Kaguya!

Kabuto was another example of a strong character. Able to simultaneously battle an MS and an EMS user!

Transmigrants are strong , but they don't have infinite power and they can be beaten!

 

[NextGenNinja]

How about the maker of this thread, You?

If you shared the same thinking with Chaos Control, this there shouldnt exist.

I didn't place limits on characters. I'm just trying 2 see how strong they could be, plus i said this is speculation.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Why are you guys setting limits on Kawaki's and Boruto's power when we've seen nothing from them? Saying stuff like "there's no way they can surpass Naruto and Sasuke " or saying "Nagato level at best" is stupid at this point. This is why every new development gets dubbed illogical or an "asspull" by fans. It is because you set limits on characters way ahead of time that the manga never actually set , and then you get mad later on when the manga does not conform to your made up limits (that I reiterate were never set by the manga).

Thus the fanmade concept of an "asspull" is born.

Here is what the definition of an "asspull" essentially is:

"Asspull": (noun) A violation within a manga of limits and rules that were predetermined by fans of the series long before any canonical actions or rules were established

Let me get straight to the point.

Naruto's TSB rasen shurikens blew up the continental sized CTs of madara.there is no freaking way kawaki could dodge or tank them.

Naruto's TSBs can erase kawaki from existence even by making a slight contact unless until he got SM.

Naruto's 9 Bijuu FRS,Kyuubi avatar,Ashura avatar and 1000 RSM clones are beyond the league of anyone.if kaguya,the strongest character in NV, was struggling against naruto then there is no way kawaki can pose a threat.

Same goes for sasuke.PS,Amino,genjutsu and amaterasu are too much fast and strong for kawaki.

If you are saying that Kawaki can be powerful than naruto and sasuke then it automatically makes him stronger than juubito,Momoshiki,kinshiki ,Toneri,Hashirama,madara,Ay,ohnoki,akatsuki and rest of other kage level ninjas ,which is impossible.

The only reasonable conclusion is that kawaki can't be stronger than naruto and sasuke.

Its not like we put a limit on it.SM naruto was surpassable even BM naruto was somehow surpassable but beyond BSM naruto is unsurpassable.

Naruto busted the moon whereas it looks likes kawaki barely destroyed the konoha yet you are believing that kawaki may be stronger than naruto?

 

[Ansatsuken]

I didn't place limits on characters. I'm just trying 2 see how strong they could be, plus i said this is speculation.

Then why you agree with Chaos Control? Speculation can be anything but still not a fact.

 

[SenseiSama]

There you go with assertions that were never established in the manga. Where was it ever established that only transmigrants have high power levels?
Obito wasn't a transmigrant and he was one of the strongest characters in the manga (both with and without the juubi). Even BM Naruto still needed assistance from Kakashi to fight him. Obito was able to actually steal some rikudou chakara and bijuu chakara from Rikudou Madara. With said chakara , he was later (indirectly through Kakashi) able to even damage Kaguya!

Kabuto was another example of a strong character. Able to simultaneously battle an MS and an EMS user!

Transmigrants are strong , but they don't have infinite power and they can be beaten!

What assertions ? Obito had the cells of Ashura's transmigrant implanted into him, without them his MS would be nowhere near the level of EMS Madara and EMS Sasuke.

And Naruto required Kakashi's help when Obito was using a dojutsu that belonged to Indra's transmigrant. Rinnegan and Hashirama's cells were the powers of transmigrants and not his own so you just proved my point no one is born with Sasuke and Naruto's potential unless they're chosen by Indra and Ashura.

Kabuto was strong but was nowhere near Pain's level, Sasuke and Itachi required no effort in defeating him, SM Naruto and MS Sasuke would have won against him in a 1v1 mid diff.

Read the manga and you would see that transmigrants are the strongest shinobi in history, no one else has reached the level of Shinsuusenju, PS and BSM.

These guys were mountain busters before awakening Rikudou power, give me a shinobi that could pull the same level of feats as them. Oh wait, there is none.

 

[NextGenNinja]

Then why you agree with Chaos Control? Speculation can be anything but still not a fact.

I agree with him that it isn't fair to put a power limit on boruto. Cos when people do that and the manga shows the character having a higher power than that supposed limit. People do start calling it an asspull, I've seen it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I agree with him that it isn't fair to put a power limit on boruto. Cos when people do that and the manga shows the character having a higher power than that supposed limit. People do start calling it an asspull, I've seen it.

Thats why I'm asking you why created this thread if you have the same thinking with him?

And now people already put their thought in this thread and no back down from it anymore. Just wait for the word asspull later.

 

[chaos control]

Let me get straight to the point.

Naruto's TSB rasen shurikens blew up the continental sized CTs of madara.there is no freaking way kawaki could dodge or tank them.

Naruto's TSBs can erase kawaki from existence even by making a slight contact unless until he got SM.

Naruto's 9 Bijuu FRS,Kyuubi avatar,Ashura avatar and 1000 RSM clones are beyond the league of anyone.if kaguya,the strongest character in NV, was struggling against naruto then there is no way kawaki can pose a threat.

Same goes for sasuke.PS,Amino,genjutsu and amaterasu are too much fast and strong for kawaki.

If you are saying that Kawaki can be powerful than naruto and sasuke then it automatically makes him stronger than juubito,Momoshiki,kinshiki ,Toneri,Hashirama,madara,Ay,ohnoki,akatsuki and rest of other kage level ninjas ,which is impossible.

The only reasonable conclusion is that kawaki can't be stronger than naruto and sasuke.

Its not like we put a limit on it.SM naruto was surpassable even BM naruto was somehow surpassable but beyond BSM naruto is unsurpassable.

Naruto busted the moon whereas it looks likes kawaki barely destroyed the konoha yet you are believing that kawaki may be stronger than naruto?

Your whole post makes one huge mistake! You are using the logic that Kaguya and other rikudou level opponents of the past struggled against Naruto to say that Naruto is unsurpassable, but your mistake is the fact that you act like Kaguya's power level is the absolute limit of the NV! Kawaki could simply be stronger than Kaguya. Who says that Kawaki can't stop time and cut off Naruto's head? Who says that Kawaki doesn't have the power to turn the carbon dioxide that Naruto breathes out into deadly carbon monoxide, which could suffocate and poison Naruto? Etc... We don't know what Kawaki's abilities are , so to say that Kawaki can't surpass Naruto is ridiculously presumptuous.

You should really stop guaging people's power based on the limits of other people if we haven't seen anything from the first person. All those continent busting feats of Naruto's could be rendered useless depending on what Kawaki's power is.

Also , Naruto didn't bust the moon. Toneri did.

 

[Nick01]

Let me get straight to the point.

Naruto's TSB rasen shurikens blew up the continental sized CTs of madara.there is no freaking way kawaki could dodge or tank them.

Naruto's TSBs can erase kawaki from existence even by making a slight contact unless until he got SM.

Naruto's 9 Bijuu FRS,Kyuubi avatar,Ashura avatar and 1000 RSM clones are beyond the league of anyone.if kaguya,the strongest character in NV, was struggling against naruto then there is no way kawaki can pose a threat.

Same goes for sasuke.PS,Amino,genjutsu and amaterasu are too much fast and strong for kawaki.

If you are saying that Kawaki can be powerful than naruto and sasuke then it automatically makes him stronger than juubito,Momoshiki,kinshiki ,Toneri,Hashirama,madara,Ay,ohnoki,akatsuki and rest of other kage level ninjas ,which is impossible.

The only reasonable conclusion is that kawaki can't be stronger than naruto and sasuke.

Its not like we put a limit on it.SM naruto was surpassable even BM naruto was somehow surpassable but beyond BSM naruto is unsurpassable.

Naruto busted the moon whereas it looks likes kawaki barely destroyed the konoha yet you are believing that kawaki may be stronger than naruto?

This.
The actual limit on Naruto's planet is the Shinju fruit and the power gained once consumed. Kaguya possesses the majority of that power and was beaten by Naruto and Sasuke.
The only way I see either of them surpassing Naruto and Sasuke, is if they eat one.

 

[chaos control]

This.
The actual limit on Naruto's planet is the Shinju fruit and the power gained once consumed. Kaguya possesses the majority of that power and was beaten by Naruto and Sasuke.
The only way I see either of them surpassing Naruto and Sasuke, is if they eat one.

You're forgetting one key detail. The shinju on Earth isn't the only shinju. Momoshiki's planet had one as well. This alone proves that there is more chakara in the NV than the amount that Kaguya possessed.

Also , chakara quantity isn't the only way to beat someone in a fight. Why don't you guys take techniques into account? Why is it all about explosions to you guys? Even if Kawaki doesn't have as much chakara as Naruto , who says his abilities don't allow him to do stuff like controlling time or absorbing all oxygen out of the air so that Naruto can't breathe?

Having more chakara than someone is not the only way to be stronger!

 

[chaos control]

What assertions ? Obito had the cells of Ashura's transmigrant implanted into him, without them his MS would be nowhere near the level of EMS Madara and EMS Sasuke.

And Naruto required Kakashi's help when Obito was using a dojutsu that belonged to Indra's transmigrant. Rinnegan and Hashirama's cells were the powers of transmigrants and not his own so you just proved my point no one is born with Sasuke and Naruto's potential unless they're chosen by Indra and Ashura.

Kabuto was strong but was nowhere near Pain's level, Sasuke and Itachi required no effort in defeating him, SM Naruto and MS Sasuke would have won against him in a 1v1 mid diff.

Read the manga and you would see that transmigrants are the strongest shinobi in history, no one else has reached the level of Shinsuusenju, PS and BSM.

These guys were mountain busters before awakening Rikudou power, give me a shinobi that could pull the same level of feats as them. Oh wait, there is none.

I beg to differ on a number of your points. Kabuto had Sasuke and Itachi on the ropes a number of times during that fight. In fact , had it just been Sasuke vs Kabuto , Kabuto would have won (at the level that Sasuke was at during that time). For example , remember when Kabuto used the white dragon jutsu on them? Sasuke couldn't move and he could hardly keep up his susanoo. Itachi had to protect him. Remember when Kabuto put the bros under Tayuya's genjutsu? The bros had to break each other out of it.

Also , Obito hardly actually used Madara's rinnegan to fight directly. He mainly just stuck to kamui (and it gave Naruto a run for his money).

To be more on topic though , strength doesn't always mean feats of destruction like mountain busting. Sometimes you can actually beat someone with actual techniques other than explosions or mass destruction techniques.

Also , we don't really know that all transmigrants were super strong. We've only seen two pairs of transmigrants. The generations before Hashirama and Madara didn't even get names!

 

[NextGenNinja]

Thats why I'm asking you why created this thread if you have the same thinking with him?

And now people already put their thought in this thread and no back down from it anymore. Just wait for the word asspull later.

To see how strong boruto is. :|
I already said boruto is likely equal to kawaki. If he's stronger then there's no skin off my back.
And too bad for them then.

 

[lndra]

Jesus, tell me you are joking? It is even worse than I thought!

Nope! Look at reviews on youtube and see the majority of the comments.

Hinata's boobs are main discussions in the hate for the Manga

 

[shelke]

Nope! Look at reviews on youtube and see the majority of the comments.

Hinata's boobs are main discussions in the hate for the Manga

Says a lot about her fans. Then they start whining that they don't like her for her breasts.