Kyubi's seal

[Prince Badman]

So initially it was a different seal that kept Kyubi in check but when Naruto defeated Kyubi to take his chakra for KCM the seal changed to a new one.....why/how did this happen? The seal that was originally Minato's changed to a one that was used by SOSP..

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is there any explanation for this phenomenon? Seals changing their nature and type...

 

[Gerkak]

Well both seals are uzumaki seals and the uzumaki descend from the sage so it makes sense.

The seals nature didn't change, that was the way it was intended to be, minato and naruto had the same seal desing and transformations. It didn't change because naruto was Ashura's renincarnation or anything like that

 

[Seventh Sama]

Well both seals are uzumaki seals and the uzumaki descend from the sage so it makes sense.

The seals nature didn't change, that was the way it was intended to be, minato and naruto had the same seal desing and transformations. It didn't change because naruto was Ashura's renincarnation or anything like that

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[SenseiSama]

The seal Naruto initially had was getting weaker and was about to break, so Naruto had to make a new one. As an Uzumaki he had the talent to develop a seal powerful enough to tame Kurama.

And as a transmigrant the seal was powerful enough to be compared to Hagoromo's, the Torii seal was a modified version of the trigram seal he had so it's still considered to be an Uzumaki technique.

 

[Prince Badman]

Well both seals are uzumaki seals and the uzumaki descend from the sage so it makes sense.

The seals nature didn't change, that was the way it was intended to be, minato and naruto had the same seal desing and transformations. It didn't change because naruto was Ashura's renincarnation or anything like that

The seal that Minato used to seal Kyubi was the four elements seal while the one that is used in the scan i put is more like Tori gates that hashirama used on 10 tails....also Kyubi says that "This is ...the SOSP..." that indicates that the previous seal was completely different than the new one.......ofc transformation will be same they both are transformations of the same tailed beast

 

[Z 0 M B 1 3]

The first seal is an Uzumaki seal. The second came from Kushina to help tame Kurama. Both originate from Hagaromo.

 

[Jokule67]

Well nothing is explained but last I checked Naruto twisted the seal on his stomach and reinforced the seal using the kyuubi chakra he yanked away. That seal is already an uzumaki seal even better than the one used on Bee. So tightening and upgrading it made it stronger.

Also Naruto has the key to his own seal. So I think he just strengthened the Seal with the Kyuubi/his/Ashura chakra thats why it resembles the Six Paths and even the last transmigrants(Hashi) sealing jutsu.

 

[Jokule67]

The seal that Minato used to seal Kyubi was the four elements seal while the one that is used in the scan i put is more like Tori gates that hashirama used on 10 tails....also Kyubi says that "This is ...the SOSP..." that indicates that the previous seal was completely different than the new one.......ofc transformation will be same they both are transformations of the same tailed beast

Narutos previous seal is his clans jutsu.

 

[Gerkak]

The seal that Minato used to seal Kyubi was the four elements seal while the one that is used in the scan i put is more like Tori gates that hashirama used on 10 tails....also Kyubi says that "This is ...the SOSP..." that indicates that the previous seal was completely different than the new one.......ofc transformation will be same they both are transformations of the same tailed beast

Who do you think gave naruto the seal key to use the seal in the first place? Did you think the new seal materialized from thin air? Minato and naruto's seals are exactly the same

 

[Angelic.]

Poor kyuubi

 

[Prince Badman]

Who do you think gave naruto the seal key to use the seal in the first place? Did you think the new seal materialized from thin air? Minato and naruto's seals are exactly the same

The nature of Minato's seal was never explained in the first place....all we know is that he used "Shiki Fujin" reaper death seal to seal half of Kyubi's chakra into him and four element seal that was taught to him by Kushina to seal the remaining half in naruto...yes he gave the seal's key to naruto that was when he swallowed that frog...but still it doesn't explain the fact that how come suddenly Naruto created a new seal that too a one used by SOSP

The seal Naruto initially had was getting weaker and was about to break, so Naruto had to make a new one. As an Uzumaki he had the talent to develop a seal powerful enough to tame Kurama.

And as a transmigrant the seal was powerful enough to be compared to Hagoromo's, the Torii seal was a modified version of the trigram seal he had so it's still considered to be an Uzumaki technique.

Hmmm natural talent i don't think so.......sealing isn't something that comes naturally...Naruto initially sucked at mastering basic techniques and he had natural talent for sealing jutsus.....not applicable...it wasn't a comparison rather it was the actual thing.

Well nothing is explained but last I checked Naruto twisted the seal on his stomach and reinforced the seal using the kyuubi chakra he yanked away. That seal is already an uzumaki seal even better than the one used on Bee. So tightening and upgrading it made it stronger.

Also Naruto has the key to his own seal. So I think he just strengthened the Seal with the Kyuubi/his/Ashura chakra thats why it resembles the Six Paths and even the last transmigrants(Hashi) sealing jutsu.

This seems the most plausible explanation till now...still how he was able to use Tori gates...well maybe thats where Ashura's chakra came into play

 

[Gerkak]

The nature of Minato's seal was never explained in the first place....all we know is that he used "Shiki Fujin" reaper death seal to seal half of Kyubi's chakra into him and four element seal that was taught to him by Kushina to seal the remaining half in naruto...yes he gave the seal's key to naruto that was when he swallowed that frog...but still it doesn't explain the fact that how come suddenly Naruto created a new seal that too a one used by SOSP

The reaper death seal and four elements seal have the same origin, they fall under the eight tetra-gram sealing style of the uzumaki clan. They also look exactly the same or at least almost exactly the same.

Obito explained that the seals used to create jinchuriki were passed down from the sage, it should not be strange that the sage's own descendants who specialized in seals would be able to create seals that resemble his own. It has nothing to do with Ashura.

 

[Xlad]

Naruto took the new seal when he met the Toads. All of his seals were variants from Hagoromo as Gerkak said.

 

[Yuka]

If I remember correctly only half of Kyuubi was sealed inside of his body.

 

[Prince Badman]

Naruto took the new seal when he met the Toads. All of his seals were variants from Hagoromo as Gerkak said.

No he didn't, he took the key to unlock the seal that Minato created. Yes point accepted that the seals were derived originally form SOSP. But naruto who didn't even knew his own origins suddenly using a high quality Uzumaki seal makes no sense....the max he could have done was reinforced his previous seal....but that should change the seal type or nature

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Uchihas and Senjus find the sage as the founding father of each their clan and they inherit the yin or yang of the sage.
For the Uchiha they use ocular genjutsus to bind the power of the bijuus while the senjus/uzamaki use the Head seal/torii to bind the power the bijuus.

I copied this from the Seal thread that was made earlier.
These are part of inherited powers from clans descending from the sage.

 

[HENI]

8 Trigram Seal was weakened. Naruto created a new seal that the Rikudo Sennin used to seal the Juubi.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I wish sealing jutsue was real. I'd seal half the people here.

OT: If you watch Pokemon than you would know that evolution in anything is common.

 

[Prince Badman]

I copied this from the Seal thread that was made earlier.
These are part of inherited powers from clans descending from the sage.

btw was that stated anywhere in manga or databook or it just another speculation?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

btw was that stated anywhere in manga or databook or it just another speculation?

Which one? The inherited powers or the sage being the founders? Because that's all in the databook.

The Clan Of The Sage Of Six Path's Lineage

Tracing back to the genesis of Ninja, Senju and Uchiha;s thread of connection. Both Clans take the Sage of Six Path as their founder, and strongly inherit that power.

↑ Moreover, Hashirama and Madara are the reincarnations of the the Sage of Six Paths's sons Ashura and Indra, respectively.

The rivalry between Hashirama and Madara may be unavoidable destiny. Hashirama is Ashura; Madara is Indra. The karma of Indra, the genius older brother, and Ashura, the younger brother who inherited his father's will, was to go beyond their generation and start a war.

↑ The Hidden Leaf's Senju Clan and the Hidden Whirlpool's Uzumaki Clan are Ninja of distant blood relation. . . The Uzumaki Clan, a distant relative of the Senju Clan, could also be said to be a lineage of the Sage of Six Paths.