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[Seventh Sama]

I dont think Hagoromo had chakra mode like Naruto when he sealed Kurama using new Fuinjutsu and created a chakra storage.

That Ninshuu's diagram just an illustration to illustrate how Ninshuu works and not really pictured Hagromo's chakra cloak when he do Ninshuu teaching.

He fought Juubi without any chakra mode, he gave power up without any charka mode activated(If he really have it). When Madara absorb Juubi he obtained the same attire as Hagoromo or Kaguya.

For me Hagoromo is all natural without shiny skin or glowing here and there.

I guess, my point is he had naruto's torii seal.

 

[lndra]

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lmaooo im done

 

[Ansatsuken]

I guess, my point is he had naruto's torii seal.

If Kurama said it mean its true afterall.

How I see it Hashirama had the same Fuinjutsu in Senpou: Myojinmun and it works the same way suppressing/binding Beast movement.

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[Rikudou Tobi]

It was passed down through the uchiha? I thought it was something madara or BZ conceived. But you do agree the sage had the torii seal?

Yeah I do think Hagormoo had the torii seals of some sort if not at least Ashura.
But the Rikudō Jūbi Kyūin is a Rikudō no jutsu that was written on the stone tablet, Madara couldn't conceive but follow/learn it just like Infinite tsukuyomi.

 

[Ansatsuken]

But I still questioning your theory about sealing the chakra beast.

It well known fact before Hagoromo appeared, Tobi said Old Man Hago sealed Juubi inside him and when he release the GM and all the chakra he was on the way to death.

In your theory you suggest Hago takes Juubi's chakra(the rabbit one) into his body and sealed it Using Tori seal but how is it possible he not dying if not dead when GM is no longer inside his body?


Or you trying to say he takes out the chakra of Juubi while the sealing process was still in motion? But it contradict to what Tobi tells us thaat Hago sealed Juubi and release GM long after.

 

[SenseiSama]

The seal Tobi was talking about is a six path seal passed down by the Uchihas. Six path coffin seal, the uzamaki's don't know anything about that seal nor does hashirama. But if you're talking about the torii seal alone, then yeah it could've been passed down from Ashura or somthing. Because some how transmigrants are associated with these things.

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Six path coffin seal and torii seals are completely different seals

They're different but they still hold the same function and power. Kurama already compared Naruto's seal to the Sage's, and the one Hashirama used was strong enough to tame the power of the Juubi, it's not a coincidence both seals had the same design.

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Hagoromo would have used seals to tame the Juubi and become it's Jinchuuriki, as we know Ashura was the one with the potential to become JuubiJin, and his descendants inherited the prodigious ability to use fuin jutsu which means he would have also inherited it.

So from what I understand, Naruto and Hashirama wouldn't have required the knowledge on how to develop the six path coffin seal from the tablet because they would have had the talent to develop a similar level of sealing jutsu as Ashura's transmigrants.

But having said that, I'm pretty sure the knowledge of the Coffin seal wasn't only passed down to the Uchiha, because the Sage chose Ashura as his successor and entrusted him with "power" which could include knowledge on Six path jutsu and how to seal the Juubi.

I think the knowledge of the coffin seal is what allowed Uzumaki to develop their own version of a Jinchuuriki seal, and the knowledge could have been in the scrolls Hashirama was shown carrying, which explains why he had knowledge on the ten tails and how to stop it.

 

[Seventh Sama]

But I still questioning your theory about sealing the chakra beast.

It well known fact before Hagoromo appeared, Tobi said Old Man Hago sealed Juubi inside him and when he release the GM and all the chakra he was on the way to death.

In your theory you suggest Hago takes Juubi's chakra(the rabbit one) into his body and sealed it Using Tori seal but how is it possible he not dying if not dead when GM is no longer inside his body?


Or you trying to say he takes out the chakra of Juubi while the sealing process was still in motion? But it contradict to what Tobi tells us thaat Hago sealed Juubi and release GM long after.

The tablet mislead some parts of the story(BZ is probably behind this), I mean tobi also said hagoromo sealed the juubi in the moon(false, Needed hamura to do that) and that the sage fought the juubi by himself(false, hamura helped). This could be a plothole too since kurama said the gedo statue was in hagoromo but hamura was guarding it on the moon, so how could that be possible?

Yeah I do think Hagormoo had the torii seals of some sort if not at least Ashura.
But the Rikudō Jūbi Kyūin is a Rikudō no jutsu that was written on the stone tablet, Madara couldn't conceive but follow/learn it just like Infinite tsukuyomi.

Then BZ is a perpetrator. Unless Hagoromo is dumb enough to put the ten tails sealing jutsu on the uchiha tablet....

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

They're different but they still hold the same function and power. Kurama already compared Naruto's seal to the Sage's, and the one Hashirama used was strong enough to tame the power of the Juubi, it's not a coincidence both seals had the same design.

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Hagoromo would have used seals to tame the Juubi and become it's Jinchuuriki, as we know Ashura was the one with the potential to become JuubiJin, and his descendants inherited the prodigious ability to use fuin jutsu which means he would have also inherited it.

So from what I understand, Naruto and Hashirama wouldn't have required the knowledge on how to develop the six path coffin seal from the tablet because they would have had the talent to develop a similar level of sealing jutsu as Ashura's transmigrants.

But having said that, I'm pretty sure the knowledge of the Coffin seal wasn't only passed down to the Uchiha, because the Sage chose Ashura as his successor and entrusted him with "power" which could include knowledge on Six path jutsu and how to seal the Juubi.

I think the knowledge of the coffin seal is what allowed Uzumaki to develop their own version of a Jinchuuriki seal, and the knowledge could have been in the scrolls Hashirama was shown carrying, which explains why he had knowledge on the ten tails and how to stop it.

Six path coffin seal is just a seal to absorb the juubi and use its power. The Torii seal and Head seal that Ashura's incarnates used are not called six path coffin seals they're just kekkai genkais that senju/uzamaki's can use to bind bijuu power only.
Uchihas and Senjus find the sage as the founding father of each their clan and they inherit the yin or yang of the sage.
For the Uchiha they use ocular genjutsus to bind the power of the bijuus while the senjus/uzamaki use the Head seal/torii to bind the power the bijuus. But both clans together and they control the GM to bind the bijuus powers and absorb it to become their own.
So your concept is kinda right but the name you used was wrong, six path coffin seal is for a different purpose.

Then BZ is a perpetrator. Unless Hagoromo is dumb enough to put the ten tails sealing jutsu on the uchiha tablet....

It was black zetsu. Hagoromoo left on the tablet to sway Uchihas away from seeking the power to awaken the rinnegan because they had the potential to awaken it. But Zetsu further pushed the Uchihas to gain power by changing it constantly.