Hebi Sasuke was not kage level!!!

[Conspirator.]

Hebi Sasuke is low kage level IMO.

 

[Amazeballs]

Hard to say; power creep is a *****. Hebi Sasuke existed in a time in the manga when techniques were less flashy; it's possible that if he'd be written to face Onoki or Gaara, he'd troll them with Genjutsu or something.

 

[Uzumaki Death god]

Byagoku makes no one invincible. Where did you get this from?Tsunade while using her Byagoku against Madara still got pierced by his Susanoo

I meant invincibility more on the lines that an otherwise fatal blow didn't even come close to killing her

Deidara had intel from pain and prep time for the fight, gaara couldnt have fought deidara to his most destructive and full extent cause he was in his village and he didnt wanna hurt his beloved villagers, it was an unfair match up. Deidara is certainly not kage level, he got owned by itachi, sasuke, and kakashi he even got brought back to life to get owned by sai and kankuro If deidara is kage level than so were they lol

I'd like to see someone counter this.People don't seem to acknowledge that gaara was kinda nerfed in this fight and hebi sasuke definitely wouldn't beat gaara under the same conditions though.

 

[Jokule67]

Being Kage level means to share and equal level of power to someone who holds the title of Kage. Part I old man Hiruzen still held the title kage and lost to Orochimaru. Years later after their fight, Sasuke obliterates Orochimaru with no effort, Hebi Sasuke = Kage Level.

Oro couldnt use ninjutsu cuz Hiruzen sealed his hands. Oro waited years b4 challenging Hiruzen to let him get old.

Sasuke is Kage level but nowhere near the greats. And nowhere near Hiruzen

 

[End of Days]

Of course he wasn't

He would get raped by any of the five kages at the time

 

[Uzumaki Death god]

Seriously dude. I posted the scan to show you that Manda cant do shit to Katsuyu. If he bit into her, OK? what next? She splits and reforms. Manda can squeeze her all he wants its always the same result. However Katsuyu can spit acid and really hurt Manda if he wants to get so close.

this is what I think too.plus isn't the whole 'three way deadlock' based Snake> Toad> Slug> Snake?

 

[kimb]

All I gotta say is KazeKage Garra shits on Hebi Sasuke i dont care what anyone says

If it wasn't for Gaara's handlers interfering with Sasuke and Gaara's stand off, Sasuke would have wrecked Gaara. Sasuke's Susanoo in its base form was able to tank an attack from not only Gaara, but Temari, Kankoro, and Darui and once. Not to mention that this is a weakened Sasuke after fighting the 4th Raikage. Gaara has no counter for Sasuke's susanoo.

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[Obito the supreme jin]

Seriously dude. I posted the scan to show you that Manda cant do shit to Katsuyu. If he bit into her, OK? what next? She splits and reforms. Manda can squeeze her all he wants its always the same result. However Katsuyu can spit acid and really hurt Manda if he wants to get so close.

Yeah you are right. Shit I had to go back and reread it, Katsuyu does easily have a counter for Manda and no wonder she is the most hax summon. I honestly wasn't thinking about the splitting and instead I was focused on the whole picture of Manda trying to swallow it a whole. Katsuyu can split giving her an advantage but can her acid really touch him because he has shown extreme speed feats.

 

[kimb]

Oro couldnt use ninjutsu cuz Hiruzen sealed his hands. Oro waited years b4 challenging Hiruzen to let him get old.

Sasuke is Kage level but nowhere near the greats. And nowhere near Hiruzen

Hiruzen is a hyped up sham. 0 feats. You can't defend Hiruzen because you can't provide any facts or scans to back up your argument, trust me, I've tried.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

ohnoki-Neggs him with jinton like he did to MS sasuke
Ay-Neggs him with his lighting armour speed and he doesn't have susanoo to negate those attacks
Mei-Mist and lava solo
Gaara-this fight mainly depends on location but sasuke wins in a place with little to no extra sand.Grand Sand Mausoleum Seal though.anyway I give this to sasuke 3/5
Tsunade-I just need to know his counter for byakugou and katsuyu > Manda.

From that it's pretty evident hebi was not kage level unless you can prove otherwise. MS Sasuke maybe but people should stop over hyping hebi

P.S yes I know you think 'sasuke neggs All' so no need to say it

Sasuke would beat tsunade. Genjutsu + Kirin + every other jutsu he has. Tsunade can't even touch him so what is she going to do.

 

[Jokule67]

If it wasn't for Gaara's handlers interfering with Sasuke and Gaara's stand off, Sasuke would have wrecked Gaara. Sasuke's Susanoo in its base form was able to tank an attack from not only Gaara, but Temari, Kankoro, and Darui and once. Not to mention that this is a weakened Sasuke after fighting the 4th Raikage. Gaara has no counter for Sasuke's susanoo.

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Do you know what HEBI SASUKE is? Thats TAKA SASUKE

 

[HashiraMadara]

Itachi >>>> Kage level

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Abc logic doesnt work in Naruto everyone knows that. Put Sasuke in that same desert fight and see how bad he loses with sand in his a$$crack

In the desert, garaa would literally crush hebi sasuke. Deidara had a way to fly around to avoid sand, sasuke lacks this and it would make the fight very difficult for him. Outside of a desert it would be a closer fight.

People try to use a b c logic too much. It doesnt work in high level naruto fights because the match ups are important just as they are in say fighting games. Character a could beat character b, and character c could beat character a but still lose to character b because of their varying tactics. God forbid sasuke fans use logic though.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

I meant invincibility more on the lines that an otherwise fatal blow didn't even come close to killing her

Ok man, she's not immortal to be invincible. Madara's PS slash decimated her but she had enough chakra to summon Katsuyu to reattach her body. If Madara completely took out Tsunade's chakra she is a goner. Casual blows don't impact her however fatal blows do. Pain weakened her with his Shinra Tensei and yes that did come close to killing her but I don't see why you are saying that standing there and tanking all of the hits = invincible. I feel like you are underrating Hebi Sasuke here and not just by a small margin but by a lot.

 

[kimb]

Do you know what HEBI SASUKE is? Thats TAKA SASUKE

Oops, I got them mixed up. lmao

 

[RedRobin]

Sasuke would beat tsunade. Genjutsu + Kirin + every other jutsu he has. Tsunade can't even touch him so what is she going to do.

• Genjustu is useless because Katsuyu easily breaks her out of it. Not to mention she battled 5 legged susano and thats 10 sharingan eyes and did not allow herself to get caught.
• Needs prep that Tsunade would never allow for. She has more stamina and chakra so while Sasuke is tried she can continuously come at him.
• She touched Madara Uchiha two times. Yet Hebi Sasuke will give her problems. I do not think so.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

^add to that the fact that tsunade literally only needs to land one blow it makes it a really hard fight for sasuke to win. She could easily activate regeneration, purposely take a hit from sasuke so she can get a blow in, KO him and be perfectly fine 10 seconds later.

Do you know what HEBI SASUKE is? Thats TAKA SASUKE

Lol that guy doesnt even realize what hes trying to argue. Anyone being honest would agree that it would at least be a close fight, and in the desert heavily in garaas favor.

 

[SenseiSama]

I see why the Uchiha rebelled. They had the strongest Members of the leaf yet not one if them were elected Hokage.

This is what pissed me off, someone like Itachi should have been groomed for the Hokage position instead of ANBU. Tobirma limited their involvement in politics which led them to feel discriminated, they had every right to rebel.

 

[Jokule67]

Hiruzen is a hyped up sham. 0 feats. You can't defend Hiruzen because you can't provide any facts or scans to back up your argument, trust me, I've tried.

He was old since the manga started and yet is confirmed that he was the strongest at the time of his prime which included the 3rd raikage.

Hiruzen was just old. There are plenty scans literally telling you how strong he is.

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It is hype but simultaneously its manga fact

 

[kimb]

Lol that guy doesnt even realize what hes trying to argue. Anyone being honest would agree that it would at least be a close fight, and in the desert heavily in garaas favor.

Honest mistake, its like 4 in the morning and I haven't slept yet. Cut me some slack...

I still think Hebi Sasuke takes Gaara tho. :bdpf: