Why Sasuke Negs Naruto

[Claymantan]

Because people like that are insensitive the others lives until theirs are in danger

Right, but Sasuke's plan is arbitrary is what I'm saying. Killing the Kage and the Bijuu only makes sense if you think no one would try to replace them. Killing the Bijuu makes sense on its own.

Sasuke actually intended to kill a lot of people.

 

[ninjarasengan]

Im just gonna lay this out in a way that even Narutards could understand.

1: Because of the fact that the Biju can be suppressed by Sasuke's ocular powers, Naruto will not be able to rely on them or Kurama to save him.(Also strips him of his Genjutsu defense)

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This means Naruto will only be able to rely on his Sage Mode Mastery, and the Power Hagoromo gave him. And that he can not use the elemental power the Biju gave him. Leaving him with only Goudoudamas, Frog Kata, Rasengans, Shadow Clones, and the Transformation Jutsu.

In technicality Genjutsu would wreck Naruto at this point but I know that isn't gonna satisfy you Narutards.

2: If Naruto is targeted by Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei it's over

Naruto has no counter for Chibaku Tensei, yes he has seen and successfully evaded it before with the help of Itachi and Killer B, by destroying the Core and Gravitational source of the Chibaku Tensei.

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That was the only known counter to Chibaku Tensei, however Sasuke's is different, instead of creating a core he uses his target as the core.(In the manga luckily plot made Sasuke use it on the Biju rather than Naruto)

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So without a core to destroy Naruto has no counter(Especially if he is placed under genjutsu as well).

3: Naruto lacks diversity and is too predictable

Sure, even without the Biju Naruto's Base strength and chakra pool far exceeds Sasuke, but what of it if Sasuke already knows ALL of Naruto's small pool of repetitive techniques.

Rasengan/Rasenshuriken is not going to work especially with Perfect Susanoos flying ability and his Telportation abilities.

Shadow Clones wont work because he can tell the real one with his Sharingan and they wont be strong enough to do much without the Biju's Help in empowering them, and Frog Kata definitely wont work lmao.

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Goudoudama's would be Naruto's only real hope and even those won't do much.

Basically, without the Biju's help, a counter for Chibaku or Genjutsu defense he has no chance against Sasuke if he relies on Hagoromo/His own power alone.

1-Naruto stood there and let Sasuke suppress Kurama (not that he knew what he was doing). Also this was introduced

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2-He just has to outlast Sasuke when he use's Chibaku Tensei by destroying the debris.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

The very fact that Sasuke cannot suppress Narutos bijuu power anymore. Kyuubi alone yes. Inside Naruto, no.

Naruto was a jinchuriki since his first day born. Let him have it and give it a rest already its really sad.

I showed a pic of Sasuke supressing the Kyuubi within Naruto. And lets just say that he can access the Kyuubi within Naruto, With just half of Kurama's power Naruto wont win against Sasuke(Whom can defeated all of the Biju within a split second)

And what defense does he have for Genjutsu or Chibaku Tensei if even the Biju could break the Genjutsu or counter Chibaku.

 

[Jokule67]

Right, but Sasuke's plan is arbitrary is what I'm saying. Killing the Kage and the Bijuu only makes sense if you think no one would try to replace them. Killing the Bijuu makes sense on its own.

Sasuke actually intended to kill a lot of people.

Totally agree man

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

1-Naruto stood there and let Sasuke suppress Kurama (not that he knew what he was doing). Also this was introduced

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2-He just has to outlast Sasuke when he use's Chibaku Tensei by destroying the debris.

I am fully aware that Naruto LET sasuke suppress Kurama, but was making it aware that he could.

Also the 2nd point is a theory, that I think is worth considering, but still wont accept without some evidence because the Biju were not able to even put up a decent fight against it.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Right, but Sasuke's plan is arbitrary is what I'm saying. Killing the Kage and the Bijuu only makes sense if you think no one would try to replace them. Killing the Bijuu makes sense on its own.

Sasuke actually intended to kill a lot of people.

Leave the Biju and Kage alive. Risk the Biju being hunted after for power and abused in the future again.

Kill the Biju and Kage. And you never have to worry about Evil obtaining that overwhelming power and sparking another war.

Also you have no proof that Sasuke intended to kill a lot of people, in fact Sasuke never killed someone without reason.

 

[lord seventh]

Admit what? And I think you get the wrong idea of what I mean by plot armor. I am saying that things such as Sasuke not using his Genjutsu on Naruto or Him not using his Chibaku on Naruto are all things should have happened.

I don't think CT works against RSM naruto also about genjustu as bee stated naruto is a jinchuriki so atleast normal genjustu won't work on him while he can also avoid eye contact if he wants as naruto senses are way more superior than any other character

 

[Yata Mirror]

long but still the same weak bait..
didn't read

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Picked my nose so hard while reading this

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I don't think CT works against RSM naruto also about genjustu as bee stated naruto is a jinchuriki so atleast normal genjustu won't work on him while he can also avoid eye contact if he wants as naruto senses are way more superior than any other character

Yeah that brings the question as to what type of Genjutsu is the Rinnegan Genjutsu, is it based on Eye contact because he did place ALL NINE Biju under genjutsu at the SAME TIME. Unless all of them so happened to be making Eye contact with him at that very moment it is logical to assume that it probably isnt a normal genjutsu. And considering that none of the Biju could break it, then Kurama wouldnt be able to help Naruto if even Kurama cant break it.

And if it is based on eye contact that makes your theory a bit more legit since he could fight decently if he relies only on his senses.

 

[Truemadara]

Such fiction.lol I think over the one million threads of you sasuke fans saying sasuke can win I think only one of you came up with a valid point.lol out of a million threads. How does naruto have plot armor?? Fighting someone with absolutely zero intent to kill against someone trying everything in the book to kill u is a plot armor? Wow

 

[Jokule67]

I showed a pic of Sasuke supressing the Kyuubi within Naruto. And lets just say that he can access the Kyuubi within Naruto, With just half of Kurama's power Naruto wont win against Sasuke(Whom can defeated all of the Biju within a split second)

And what defense does he have for Genjutsu or Chibaku Tensei if even the Biju could break the Genjutsu or counter Chibaku.

You posted a pick of a non Perfect Jinchuriki so that is mute sir. And it just so happens Perfect Jin block Genjutsu too.

Only thing that can be debated is Chibaku Tensei. However, since Naruto can fly and has Yin yang release in his body, that also can be debated. He could most likely just dispel it. But I know you wont ever except that so like I said, debatable.

There are also plenty things naruto didnt use. His fastest shunshin, frog kumite, TSB, shadowclone.


Ever wondered why since Naruto unlocked SM kishi never had them trade blows? Its because logically he ahouldnt be able to. Especially powered by kurama on top of rsm. He shouldnt even really be able to scratch Naruto in the least.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Such fiction.lol I think over the one million threads of you sasuke fans saying sasuke can win I think only one of you came up with a valid point.lol out of a million threads. How does naruto have plot armor?? Fighting someone with absolutely zero intent to kill against someone trying everything in the book to kill u is a plot armor? Wow

Wow man you just solo'd my thread cant deny these manga facts I guess.

 

[Jokule67]

Yeah that brings the question as to what type of Genjutsu is the Rinnegan Genjutsu, is it based on Eye contact because he did place ALL NINE Biju under genjutsu at the SAME TIME. Unless all of them so happened to be making Eye contact with him at that very moment it is logical to assume that it probably isnt a normal genjutsu. And considering that none of the Biju could break it, then Kurama wouldnt be able to help Naruto if even Kurama cant break it.

And if it is based on eye contact that makes your theory a bit more legit since he could fight decently if he relies only on his senses.

Noone can break genjutsu on their own. It takes an outside source, hence the jinchuriki partnership.

 

[lord seventh]

Yeah that brings the question as to what type of Genjutsu is the Rinnegan Genjutsu, is it based on Eye contact because he did place ALL NINE Biju under genjutsu at the SAME TIME. Unless all of them so happened to be making Eye contact with him at that very moment it is logical to assume that it probably isnt a normal genjutsu. And considering that none of the Biju could break it, then Kurama wouldnt be able to help Naruto if even Kurama cant break it.

And if it is based on eye contact that makes your theory a bit more legit since he could fight decently if he relies only on his senses.

Yeah.manga wouldn't state much about rinnegan genjustu

 

[ninjarasengan]

Leave the Biju and Kage alive. Risk the Biju being hunted after for power and abused in the future again.

Kill the Biju and Kage. And you never have to worry about Evil obtaining that overwhelming power and sparking another war.

Also you have no proof that Sasuke intended to kill a lot of people, in fact Sasuke never killed someone without reason.

question is...could Sasuke actually permanently kill the Bijuu? If not his plan was full of holes from the start.

 

[lndra]

Nice bait son

 

[Claymantan]

Leave the Biju and Kage alive. Risk the Biju being hunted after for power and abused in the future again.

Kill the Biju and Kage. And you never have to worry about Evil obtaining that overwhelming power and sparking another war.

Also you have no proof that Sasuke intended to kill a lot of people, in fact Sasuke never killed someone without reason.

I phrased it badly. But I think Sasuke should have been smart enough to realize "Hey, if I kill the Kage of these village, they'll probably not just give up and bow down to me." He should have known that he'd probably have to kill a lot more than just five people. Not a single one of the main cast would have taken it sitting down, for example.

Essentially, I'm saying his plan was shortsighted not only from an ideological standpoint, but literally in terms of actual follow-through.

Kill the Bijuu - Leave the Kage alive, very difficult for power struggles to make sense.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

You posted a pick of a non Perfect Jinchuriki so that is mute sir. And it just so happens Perfect Jin block Genjutsu too.

Only thing that can be debated is Chibaku Tensei. However, since Naruto can fly and has Yin yang release in his body, that also can be debated. He could most likely just dispel it. But I know you wont ever except that so like I said, debatable.

There are also plenty things naruto didnt use. His fastest shunshin, frog kumite, TSB, shadowclone.


Ever wondered why since Naruto unlocked SM kishi never had them trade blows? Its because logically he ahouldnt be able to. Especially powered by kurama on top of rsm. He shouldnt even really be able to scratch Naruto in the least.

You see, Perfect Jins, dont BLOCK Genjutsu they BREAK them. But their are Genjutsu's that even Biju can not break such as Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu and the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

If Kurama cant break the Genjutsu then similar to Infinite Tsukuyomi, he will not be able to help Naruto.

Also, it would seem that the gravitational pool of Chibkau Tensei negates the movement of the target that or maybe it was just the genjutsu tha prevented the Biju from being able to move against the Chibaku buts thats a theory. So considering that IF sasuke doesnt place him in a genjutsu before hand, Naruto could somehow get out of it.

But since he can be placed under Rinnegan Genjutsu he would not be able to even try to escape Chibaku Tensei.

 

[0jordinio0]

To prove that without Naruto's Plot Armor Sasuke would easily win.

...Sasuke got neg'd by a simple stab with his own sword. His durablity hasn't changed since gaining his new powers, he's still a glass cannon.