Why Sasuke Negs Naruto

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

So you're gonna act like Naruto wasn't exhausted, and that Sasuke was planning this? :|

Sasukes plan was to kill the Kage's, which if you actually understand what he was trying to do, was the right idea.

Naruto Did not accept this idea(Since he didnt understand what Sasuke was trying to do), and as a result Naruto engaged Sasuke to protect the Kage's.

 

[Nick01]

Fail thread.
Basically you've twisted the story into Sasuke's favor and giving him some fanfic scenarios.
In this case, I can say the same about Naruto, and this time he'll be at a 100%, unnerfed and with killing intent low diffing Sasuke.

Faps never learn I suppose. But that's SauceTards for ya.

 

[Claymantan]

Sasukes plan was to kill the Kage's, which if you actually understand what he was trying to do, was the right idea.

Naruto Did not accept this idea(Since he didnt understand what Sasuke was trying to do), and as a result Naruto engaged Sasuke to protect the Kage's.

People say this, but I don't understand the logic of killing Tsunade or Mei.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Fail thread.
Basically you've twisted the story into Sasuke's favor and giving him some fanfic scenarios.
In this case, I can say the same about Naruto, and this time he'll be at a 100%, unnerfed and with killing intent low diffing Sasuke.

Faps never learn I suppose. But that's SauceTards for ya.

Bring in some Mangaphax that pose a valid argument against my thread and I will consider your theory.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

People say this, but I don't understand the logic of killing Tsunade or Mei.

The logic was that as long as the Kage's live, then the Biju will ALWAYS be abused. Because the Kage's are not careful and use them as a source of power. And that source of power will be hunted down(Just as the Akatsuki did), and it creates and endless cycle of Criminals chasing the Biju wrecking havoc, and Leaders trying to control and use them as innocent lives are shed in the long run.

So to create a better future he wanted to kill the Kage, and Biju to ensure that they would no longer be used for evil in the future.

Naruto being Naiive didnt understand the logic because he has grown fond of the Kage and Biju.

 

[Dantee]

These threads always turn out the same.

 

[lord seventh]

He lost the battle of ideals, and besides in the battle thanks to Plot Armor Naruto and Sasuke basically tied, the physical battle had no victor.

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As you can see they sustained the same physical damage so its a tie. I really dont know why people think he won the actual fight.

So you knew its a tie then whats the meaning of this thread ?

 

[Claymantan]

The logic was that as long as the Kage's live, then the Biju will ALWAYS be abused. Because the Kage's are not careful and use them as a source of power. And that source of power will be hunted down(Just as the Akatsuki did), and it creates and endless cycle of Criminals chasing the Biju wrecking havoc, and Leaders trying to control and use them as innocent lives are shed in the long run.

So to create a better future he wanted to kill the Kage, and Biju to ensure that they would no longer be used for evil in the future.

Naruto being Naiive didnt understand the logic because he has grown fond of the Kage and Biju.

Mei and Tsunade openly defied this trend though.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

So you knew its a tie then whats the meaning of this thread ?

To prove that without Naruto's Plot Armor Sasuke would easily win.

 

[Uchiha boii]

Im just gonna lay this out in a way that even Narutards could understand.

1: Because of the fact that the Biju can be suppressed by Sasuke's ocular powers, Naruto will not be able to rely on them or Kurama to save him.(Also strips him of his Genjutsu defense)

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This means Naruto will only be able to rely on his Sage Mode Mastery, and the Power Hagoromo gave him. And that he can not use the elemental power the Biju gave him. Leaving him with only Goudoudamas, Frog Kata, Rasengans, Shadow Clones, and the Transformation Jutsu.

In technicality Genjutsu would wreck Naruto at this point but I know that isn't gonna satisfy you Narutards.

2: If Naruto is targeted by Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei it's over

Naruto has no counter for Chibaku Tensei, yes he has seen and successfully evaded it before with the help of Itachi and Killer B, by destroying the Core and Gravitational source of the Chibaku Tensei.

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That was the only known counter to Chibaku Tensei, however Sasuke's is different, instead of creating a core he uses his target as the core.(In the manga luckily plot made Sasuke use it on the Biju rather than Naruto)

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So without a core to destroy Naruto has no counter(Especially if he is placed under genjutsu as well).

3: Naruto lacks diversity and is too predictable

Sure, even without the Biju Naruto's Base strength and chakra pool far exceeds Sasuke, but what of it if Sasuke already knows ALL of Naruto's small pool of repetitive techniques.

Rasengan/Rasenshuriken is not going to work especially with Perfect Susanoos flying ability and his Telportation abilities.

Shadow Clones wont work because he can tell the real one with his Sharingan and they wont be strong enough to do much without the Biju's Help in empowering them, and Frog Kata definitely wont work lmao.

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Goudoudama's would be Naruto's only real hope and even those won't do much.

Basically, without the Biju's help, a counter for Chibaku or Genjutsu defense he has no chance against Sasuke if he relies on Hagoromo/His own power alone.

While I agree your method is possible but your making things to hard here unrestricted sasuke is unbeatable all sasuke has to do is walk into the kage mansion tell Naruto hes hokage now grab him with a sussano arm then activate preta path drain him to near death wont take too long since nagato a non original user of the rinnegan in edo state sucked 6 tails worth of bees chakra in a second sasuke could take like all of kuramas in moments or at least enough to weaken him so sasuke could use the same chidori he used to blow up a meteor right through narutos chest cavity making sure not to miss is heart while dying sasuke drains his remaining chakara burns his body to a crisp with enton then teleports him to kaguyas dimension the cold wintery one from the movie then for safe measure chibaku tensei narutos corpse and that is a wrap my friend no genjutsu needed lol he could bisect him or be head him instead of chidori its ur choice Naruto fans unerfed sasuke is the strongest current shinobi

 

[Jokule67]

Your whole theory is flawed because if your very first reason.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Mei and Tsunade openly defied this trend though.

They had no absolute plan that protected the Biju from Evil individuals. Sasuke's plan was the ONLY way to ensure that somethinng like this

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Would never be able to happen again. And Killing the Kage and Biju is the only way to accomplish that.

 

[Troyg39]

Always good to see you come around man

Appreciate that bro

 

[Claymantan]

They had no absolute plan that protected the Biju from Evil individuals. Sasuke's plan was the ONLY way to ensure that somethinng like this

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Would never be able to happen again. And Killing the Kage and Biju is the only way to accomplish that.

Why not...just kill the Bijuu?

 

[lord seventh]

To prove that without Naruto's Plot Armor Sasuke would easily win.

I can prove same for sasuke from cursed seal to itachi's eyes but forget about it you wouldn't gonna admit

 

[Jokule67]

To prove that without Naruto's Plot Armor Sasuke would easily win.

Funny how you dont see Sasuke also has plot Armor. Its only because of Naruto that he us even important

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Your whole theory is flawed because if your very first reason.

Ok. At least give an explanation. I could be wrong but dont just say I am wrong. Prove it.

 

[Jokule67]

Why not...just kill the Bijuu?

Because people like that are insensitive the others lives until theirs are in danger

 

[Jokule67]

Ok. At least give an explanation. I could be wrong but dont just say I am wrong. Prove it.

The very fact that Sasuke cannot suppress Narutos bijuu power anymore. Kyuubi alone yes. Inside Naruto, no.

Naruto was a jinchuriki since his first day born. Let him have it and give it a rest already its really sad.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I can prove same for sasuke from cursed seal to itachi's eyes but forget about it you wouldn't gonna admit

Admit what? And I think you get the wrong idea of what I mean by plot armor. I am saying that things such as Sasuke not using his Genjutsu on Naruto or Him not using his Chibaku on Naruto are all things should have happened.