Kishi made sasuke look bad

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Okay so, sasuke has been away from his family for like what, 10+ years? All for tracking down a pair of fodder otsutsuki? Man, kishi did sasuke wrong. Sasuke could've also tried avoiding sakura but that's character bashing...
 

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Don't worry, he made almost every character look bad.
Kakashi, Minato, Might Guy, Madara, Obito, Hagoromo, Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, Hinata. Just to name the worst.
 

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Took awhile to find the milk:lol

Add salt to the wound, Sasuke returned at some point when Sarada was alive but did not visit.
 

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All of the characters were terrible in gaiden.

Naruto and Sasuke should obviously know the value of family thanks to their traumatizing and lonely experiences, but nope, Kishi thinks its more interesting that they forget that and be neglectful fathers.
 
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Yeah, Kishi kinda ****ed up on that.

I really appreciate his job, but oh well, his writting skills were never the best.

Sasuke being away from his daughter and his wife for 10+ years isn't realistic at all. And it doesn't matter how many times Kishi tries to fix that, it will never make sense. I mean, dude has S/T abilities and is a demi-god walking on earth.
 
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All of the characters were terrible in gaiden.

Naruto and Sasuke should obviously know the value of family thanks to their traumatizing and lonely experiences, but nope, Kishi thinks its more interesting that they forget that and be neglectful fathers.

One of the many reasons why the gaiden is shit, and naruto should just end before it gets any worse
 

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Had to create some sort of shitty mystery daddy issues
 

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Okay so, sasuke has been away from his family for like what, 10+ years? All for tracking down a pair of fodder otsutsuki? Man, kishi did sasuke wrong. Sasuke could've also tried avoiding sakura but that's character bashing...

Lol no one cares
 

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How did he make these two look bad/the worst? D:

Might Guy
Took away his well-staged heroic death, let the most cheerful/agile character in the manga end up in a wheel chair.

Hagoromo
He was told to be the wisest, most powerful guy ever that took down the fusion of all Bijuu by himself. Turns out to have a powerful brother that helped him, he didn't know that he fought his own mother, was fooled by black goo called "Zetsu", was willing to let Naruto/Sasuke destroy the battlefield -> killing all MT-victims around if Naru/Sasu successfully sealed Madara.. aaaand gave Sasuke a Rinnegan while knowing that Sasuke wanted to kill the Gokage and Naruto at this point.
(And yeah, I know that he believed in Naruto, the savior, who has to win eventually in this fictional story).
 

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Okay so, sasuke has been away from his family for like what, 10+ years? All for tracking down a pair of fodder otsutsuki? Man, kishi did sasuke wrong. Sasuke could've also tried avoiding sakura but that's character bashing...

I only wonder what those 10 years were like for Sakura with no one to Satisfy her womanly urges....XD
 

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I think what he did was very typical for his character.
 

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Might Guy
Took away his well-staged heroic death, let the most cheerful/agile character in the manga end up in a wheel chair.

I don't think this is an innately negative outcome for Gai. For one thing, sacrificing your life to save your friends, while treated nobly in the manga, is also something that Naruto's endgame ideology seeks to avoid (one person shouldering the whole burden). Also, Gai being in a wheelchair isn't an innately bad thing (if Kishi was to give Gai screentime ever again), because showing that people with disabilities can be just as youthful or happy is a very positive outcome. In fact, this actually fits perfectly with the theme of Gai's character, being happy and believing in your own youth/strength even if other people don't acknowledge it.

It also leaves open the possibility of exploring how the ninja world treats disabled ninja. Not that I'm saying Kishi would ever touch those ideas, but I'm just saying I don't see Gai as "ruined" simply because he lived and lost the use of his legs.

HagoromoHe was told to be the wisest, most powerful guy ever that took down the fusion of all Bijuu by himself. Turns out to have a powerful brother that helped him, he didn't know that he fought his own mother, was fooled by black goo called "Zetsu", was willing to let Naruto/Sasuke destroy the battlefield -> killing all MT-victims around if Naru/Sasu successfully sealed Madara.. aaaand gave Sasuke a Rinnegan while knowing that Sasuke wanted to kill the Gokage and Naruto at this point.
(And yeah, I know that he believed in Naruto, the savior, who has to win eventually in this fictional story).

I concede on this one XD
 

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Sasuke needed to remain an outsider so he can be mysterious. There was really no point in him having a family. I think Kishi just wanted another Uchiha in the new Konoha 11.
 

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I saw it coming.

In an interview before Gaiden was released, he said the reason he didn't want Sasuke to live in Konoha was because it would be awkward after all the crimes he committed in the shinobi world- hence the convenient redemption journey to write him out.

If he thought it was awkward initially, it makes sense that he would keep Sasuke out of the village for longer. Though, the excuse was pretty crappy honestly as he could have visited his wife and child at any time if he truly wanted.

It is what it is. Everyone in Gaiden had some form of plot-induced stupidity. Even side characters, like Shizune, screwed up (could have just told Sarada her dad was on a top secret mission protecting the shinobi world and thus her + Sakura, too).
 

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Well what'd you expect? Sarada was bound to ask questions about her origins that even he and Sakura was too afraid to answer.

Actually the entire people who knew about Sarada's birth were afraid of answering that question. Even Karin didnt answer directly. She also told that to Suigetsu and not Sarada so in her mind no one answered her.

I mean he had to go to exile that's why he left. because he didnt want to burden Konoha and be a cause of friction. He did just only turned good after trying to murder the Alliance's saviour.

So Sasuke was actually put into a good light here by kishi. "Because he's the hero Konoha deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight" ~ Naruto
 

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So if Sasuke was relaxing at home with his family, raising Sarada and being too lax on searching for future threats and when the future threats come and Sasuke isn't prepared and gets destroyed, you telling me you wouldn't be here today with the same topic name saying Kishi made Sasuke look bad? :nefer:
 

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I saw it coming.

In an interview before Gaiden was released, he said the reason he didn't want Sasuke to live in Konoha was because it would be awkward after all the crimes he committed in the shinobi world- hence the convenient redemption journey to write him out.

If he thought it was awkward initially, it makes sense that he would keep Sasuke out of the village for longer. Though, the excuse was pretty crappy honestly as he could have visited his wife and child at any time if he truly wanted.

It is what it is. Everyone in Gaiden had some form of plot-induced stupidity. Even side characters, like Shizune, screwed up (could have just told Sarada her dad was on a top secret mission protecting the shinobi world and thus her + Sakura, too).

lol I agree with you. But man, being away from his wife and daughter for 10+ is just inexplicable.

What was so important that kept him away and prevented him from seeing them for that long? It just doesn't make sense...
 
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